Soft Dev or Web Dev?

[weblizzer]

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yes.. got your point dude. heheheheh...

[dlanyer77]

IMO you try both then analyze where you learn fast and make sure you have one expertise in which you are proud to say "I am the expert of this field." you must be unambiguous.

[cmontoya]

@digitalsuperman: (OT) Ha ha, na ilad ko sa imong avatar bai. Kulba-a nako oi. I thought naa insect nakasulod ako monitor.

Back to topic. I used to develop business applications (Clipper) way back in college (don't ask when), freelanced as a J2ME MIDP 1.0
programmer for Siemens Belgium, then intranet development using PHP 4, Smarty, XHTML/Javascript/CSS, MySQL, Apache, then now
Excel VBA 2003 to boost individual productivity.

I can't say I enjoyed developing large applications (heck my MIDP 1.0 game had 5,000 lines of code). I hate the long hours.

But I do enjoy coding small apps. In fact, I'm planning to study Excel and Access integration soon. I recently found out that some small to
medium sized companies still rely on MS Office VBA for their business application needs.

But if you really want to work in the real world for big customers, then you have to learn how to accept the fact that you can't write an
application yourself. I suggest you either learn .NET (download MS free Visual Studio Express) or J2EE. Ayaw lang pagdali learn. Find an
app you like to write and see if you can reverse engineer it by using its GUI. Rebuild it from scratch. Mas maayo kung kahibalo ka gamay
UML para ma-model nimo ang app (believe me it will save you countless hours of rework).

As for web versus non-web tech dev, I don't really see any difference (unless you're planning to develop embedded, real-time, systems-
level, e.g., OS, compilers). I was able to do and earn from both. Allergic lang ko systems level programming kay mas grabe quality
requirements ani na mga system. I don't want to be responsible for the deaths of people tungod sayop reading sa MRI scanner.

Good luck!

[weblizzer]

lain2x gud tah ug field oiz. heehehe mao lagi na mag depende ra pud lagi kung asa tah comfortable..... May unta gud oiz naay organizations dinhi para sa mga developers bah.. para atleast magkatapok pud dinhi sa cebu.. heheheh din atleast magkashare2x pud

[digitalsuperman]

para nako mas nindut gyud if a programmer can do both..naa man gud uban clients nahan hybrid.. usahay pa develop sila ug system where it involves internal and external applications..so if ingon ana nga scenario, mas maayo if you can do both.. i've been doing business apps for 6 years now but still i find it really hard to create a website..

i mean kanang, makahimo ku ug website pero murag bati man kaayo tan-awon..dali raman i-code but maglisud gyud ko sa design.. para nako making a website also includes a very very very good design and sad to say wala gyud koy talent anang design..hihihihi..i know how to code but not to design...kay ang website gud nag involve man gud na ug images, flash movies etc.. whereas sa business apps, i use classic designs..i don't dwell too much on the design as long as the business app is presentable and effecient...

so kanang mga website makers, bilib kaayo ko ana kay kamao pa sila design, kamao pa mo code...

[simoncpu]

I don't think Web Development is the future anymore. Its time has already arrived, and most high school students already know HTML, JavaScript, PHP, and etc. The market is saturated already, so we can no longer charge as high as we used to. I mean, if a high school can do a website for 5T, why would people pay a professional 30T? Of course, lahi ra jud ang quality, but it's another story.

I think the future lies in mobile application development, especially with the advent of open embedded platform. 3G/4G/EDGE/whatever technology is accelerating its adoption. In fact, I'm surfing Istorya via 3G right now. I think we should concentrate on embedded Unix/Linux programming, and we should study some basic networking concepts too. User-level apps for mobile devices will likely be in Java or Flash or something, but I don't yet have sufficient information to correctly predict what the dominant language will be. C/C++ will still remain the dominant systems programming language for years to come though. =)

[ simon.cpu ]

[eax]

C/C++ will still remain the dominant systems programming language for years to come though. =)

[ simon.cpu ]

Sakto gyud stil C/C++ will be the dominant systems programming.

[digitalsuperman]

speaking of mobile programming.. i have had developed applications particularly smart client business applications too using Pocket PC and Windows Mobile for PDA's and XDA's utilizing its wifi..its quite awesome.. also i think its the future..mobile programming..although i haven't tried developing apps for cellphones but i'll try.. i really wanna try and study WCF specially how it can revolutionize the mobile technology..hmmm..

[maddox]

Based from what I know, now most businesses wants to transfer their applications from client to web. Even for in-house applications. For minimal overhead perhaps.

Mobile apps might show a lot of potential but I personally think moving business applications to mobile will take very long pa if not at all. But then again we never know.

[weblizzer]

hheehe mga lagyo na ba ninyo sah. heheheeh... mga hait na gud diay au mo. heheheeh tagpila naman diay mo ka years ug praktis.?? heheehehe.. well regarding sa said ni simoncpu.... i don't know if many of highschool students now are very good in web development.... kai even colllege gani guro nga mga cs or it students dili paman gali..eheheh well depende guro sa skuls gawas lang if sa exclusive or high standard skul gud guro maka study pero naa gud guro ana kana mga computer enthusiast... anyway.... as i have known karon.. especially sa mga hiring.. para gawas.. mostly gud kana gud mga In kaayo na mga language ang mga kusog... pero depende sa imo field na imo gusto sad..