How much does this system cost?

[dellman]

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Naa ni sa 100,000.00 pesos ang price. Before ta mo ni buhat naa unta contract.
Lisod na sya na mahimo gamay ra inyo mahimo.

As you are newbies, always, always work with a contract. This is for your mutual security, both the developers (for you, the assurance that the client will pay the agreed amount, considering the work specified in the contract, para dili na mag usob usob) and for the client (he will be assured that you and your team will not leave without finishing the project)

It should specify the features, capabilities and limitations of the program. Also, make a project timeline so the client will know what to expect and when he can expect it. Calculate the time you spent on creating the program and the money spent on utilities when working on it (e.i. electricity). Then work from there. I am not saying 200k dayun inyo singlon sa client. You need to calculate it yourself.

[salbahis]

di, wa paman namu na install. karun paman naabot ang printer para sa receipt. within this week pa namu ma.install, so pwede pami magpaugat g himo ug contract ani?

too risky basin kamo pay madaot... if you really insist in making a contract better asked somebody like a season contractor...

its better inyo siya storyahon... diskarte lang gud nga you want to make a contract sa deal... if ok siya but same ra ang rate... diri lang ninyo sa contract bawion... like remove some features or remove the support sa system... pero ayaw mog backout diretso kay even word of mouth ra ang agreement... mahug na nga unprofessional mo... and you will never know what will happen...

[cutterpillow20]

Powera kaau nmu uie.. Pareha ra man ta ug year pero gahi na man kaau ka ug experience, buhat na man ka ug system na ibaligya.. Galing!

[jairoh_]

too risky basin kamo pay madaot... if you really insist in making a contract better asked somebody like a season contractor...

its better inyo siya storyahon... diskarte lang gud nga you want to make a contract sa deal... if ok siya but same ra ang rate... diri lang ninyo sa contract bawion... like remove some features or remove the support sa system... pero ayaw mog backout diretso kay even word of mouth ra ang agreement... mahug na nga unprofessional mo... and you will never know what will happen...

moa jud. lesson learned nani. hehe. tnx sa mga advice mga bossing.

[salbahis]

Powera kaau nmu uie.. Pareha ra man ta ug year pero gahi na man kaau ka ug experience, buhat na man ka ug system na ibaligya.. Galing!

you dont get experience by reading books... you get it by doing something and learning from it... either success or mistakes... even you can make a system just dont stop believing that you can do it...

*human brain is capable of storing limitless information, what you see, hear, tasted are all recorded, its just a matter of accessing it...*

[salbahis]

so words of advice lang sa mga plano mo dawat ug mga ing-ani nga trabaho... this is my formula

1. Make a contract
   a) Layout all the features and requirements for the task
   b) If; You are not sure about the task, do a feasibility study or a research to get you oriented with the technology the task uses, always one step ahead of your client.
   c) Dont do anything that is not included in the contract, stipulate it on the contract that you can withdraw from the contract at anytime with enough justification of the reasons.
   d) Include a Non Deuce-Bag errr Disclosure Agreement (i know its the other NDA... hehehe)
   e) Support will voided at the event the system is modified by any other person.
   
2. Always asked for 50% DP (not the other DP ), A car needs a gas to operate, you know, it should be non-refundable incase the client backs-out
3. Time and Task Management
4. Always talk to your client, give them updates regularly, it gives them a sense of security that you guys are not running away from the obligation and also to protect you from legal implications
5. Do your task in phases, its not a race.
6. If your client asked for a features that is not included on the first agreed features, Don't do it, seriously dont do it, just tell your client it will be on the next phase of the development, dont go astray on your current phase. If its a bug, fixed it, its not a new feature anyway.
7. Be open-minded there are lot of deuce-bag clients out there, if you think they are stepping beyond the line, then quit (see #1c)
8. Dont be a YES person, learn to say NO, in a good and professional way
9. Be professional always keep your words, before making any commitment always make sure that you are up for the task.
10. Enjoy what you are doing, if not dont do it.

[chrisvil]

As you are newbies, always, always work with a contract. This is for your mutual security, both the developers (for you, the assurance that the client will pay the agreed amount, considering the work specified in the contract, para dili na mag usob usob) and for the client (he will be assured that you and your team will not leave without finishing the project)

It should specify the features, capabilities and limitations of the program. Also, make a project timeline so the client will know what to expect and when he can expect it. Calculate the time you spent on creating the program and the money spent on utilities when working on it (e.i. electricity). Then work from there. I am not saying 200k dayun inyo singlon sa client. You need to calculate it yourself.

Based on my experience, being a software developer is not just a developer itself but a technopreneur in mind. You should have marked up the price besides having a computations of your electricity and etc being consumed. Unsaon man nimo pag ginansya na igo ra pud ibayad sa utility bill ug uban pang expenses imo basihan.

[salbahis]

Based on my experience, being a software developer is not just a developer itself but a technopreneur in mind. You should have marked up the price besides having a computations of your electricity and etc being consumed. Unsaon man nimo pag ginansya na igo ra pud ibayad sa utility bill ug uban pang expenses imo basihan.

mao nay giingon nga negosyong palugi... sakit mang pamalandungon developers need money... wa may problem sa mo haggle basta dili lang sad tawn kanang murag gipangayo nalang...

[ethan12]

you dont get experience by reading books... you get it by doing something and learning from it... either success or mistakes... even you can make a system just dont stop believing that you can do it...

*human brain is capable of storing limitless information, what you see, hear, tasted are all recorded, its just a matter of accessing it...*

Nice.. ganahan pud ko maparehas ninyo in the future.. skwela paman pd ko karon.. anyway daghan ko nakatunan ani nga thread.. thanks mga idol..

[salbahis]

Nice.. ganahan pud ko maparehas ninyo in the future.. skwela paman pd ko karon.. anyway daghan ko nakatunan ani nga thread.. thanks mga idol..

ayaw lang kog sunda... my road to where i am now... is not easy... its better create your own future... always remember... you are the captain of your own ship... you draw your own course...