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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs


    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    @SioDenz
    I'm basing my terms and use of words from proper vocabulary and not some "versions" of it like some delusions and distortions due to some different interpretations from the same scripture.

    These adjectives, words or term "Good" or "Bad" simply describes its real meaning as it was coined and being commonly used. And it shouldn't be that complex

    And karon muingon na hinuon ka nausab ang meaning tungod sa tinuhu-an or mag himo2x na hinuon mo inyu version to serve your belief's purpose?

    mao na ni ron
    Bisag unsaon nimug panindot sa imung words gigamit pero wa ghapon kasabot sa main point.

    If mu ingun kag Good naa jud kay Principle gibasehan ana, So if mu ingun ka di musunod sa Bibliya, mangutana ko nimu asa ka mag base ana imung Good and Bad.

    Example, Naay belief nga nag allow ug polygamy nya naa say uban belief nga dili allowed ang Polygamy. If mu judge tah kinsay GOOD ana nila unsay basehan natu, kana imung vocabulary?

    Atheist man kaha ka nganu magpromote man ka ug UNIVERSAL basis nga individuality man ang concept ana. Nonsense kaayu nga na create tah by random nya mag follow tag universal Law sa Morality pa jud nga LAW.

    Same ra na if mu ingun ka nga equal tang tanan ug iya iya tah buhat - Pero if unsa akong balaod maoy inyung i accept. Asa may sense ana.

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    But the reality is there are some beliefs and practices that will overlap/violate the other. So ang pangutana unsaon pag settle and if kinsay sundon.
    It's called tolerance. You respect the differences of other beliefs and revel in the common ground that you share. Of course, if you want it "my way, or the highway," then you're just being a dogmatic dick.

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    express your beliefs, but never impose it on others....impose it on your members.

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    It's called tolerance. You respect the differences of other beliefs and revel in the common ground that you share. Of course, if you want it "my way, or the highway," then you're just being a dogmatic dick.
    i think we all know what good and bad things are,at least on it's general form..
    however naa pud mga twisted perspectives about goodness..para sa mga corrupt, maayo ang mangorakot kay madatu cla ug samut..para sa mga tulisan ug kawatan,maski pag muingun cla nga di na maayo ilang gibuhat...but in the real sense, they happen to believe that it is still good otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
    and with regard to religious practices, there are some teachings about morality in a certain religion/faith that would somehow violate the other faith,sayon ra kaau ang tubag ana..you answered it..tolerance ra jud diba? and respetohay kay lahi2x man tag tinuhoan..agree kaau ko ana, but how about sa kadtong first example?
    not necessarily religious morality, but about the person's sense of morality?
    ang question ni siodenz i think is unsa ang basis of goodness or morality sa mga tao nga dili motoo ug Ginoo,
    but promotes goodness? kay morality is taught,and whatever your views about morality it depends kung asa nimu na ginabase..

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    It's called tolerance. You respect the differences of other beliefs and revel in the common ground that you share. Of course, if you want it "my way, or the highway," then you're just being a dogmatic dick.
    In a perfect world Yes Pero naa juy sitwasyon nga magka conflict. When you say belief it does Not only mean Religious Belief naa daghan belief sa kalibutan. Ug this Is Not a perfect world man, Naa may Belief nga Mu violate sa lain belief. So based sa imung Post kadtu ra common atung istoryahan nya kadtung naka violate sa lain Belief, dedma?

    Kusog ta mu tolerate bitaw pero sa Simple kaayu nga issue sa RH Bill, kusog tah mu comment kay kini siya sayop kana siya sakto. Asa may Tolerate ana?
    Last edited by SioDenz; 08-06-2012 at 04:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    i think we all know what good and bad things are,at least on it's general form..
    however naa pud mga twisted perspectives about goodness..para sa mga corrupt, maayo ang mangorakot kay madatu cla ug samut..para sa mga tulisan ug kawatan,maski pag muingun cla nga di na maayo ilang gibuhat...but in the real sense, they happen to believe that it is still good otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
    and with regard to religious practices, there are some teachings about morality in a certain religion/faith that would somehow violate the other faith,sayon ra kaau ang tubag ana..you answered it..tolerance ra jud diba? and respetohay kay lahi2x man tag tinuhoan..agree kaau ko ana, but how about sa kadtong first example?
    not necessarily religious morality, but about the person's sense of morality?
    ang question ni siodenz i think is unsa ang basis of goodness or morality sa mga tao nga dili motoo ug Ginoo,
    but promotes goodness? kay morality is taught,and whatever your views about morality it depends kung asa nimu na ginabase..
    All the world's major religions in the world essentially believe the same core concept of the Golden Rule. It's a concept that predates Christianity and was built into the justice systems of the oldest civilizations. Even an atheist will understand the wisdom of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    In a perfect world Yes Pero naa juy sitwasyon nga magka conflict. When you say belief it does Not only mean Religious Belief naa daghan belief sa kalibutan. Ug this Is Not a perfect world man, Naa may Belief nga Mu violate sa lain belief. So based sa imung Post asa nga belief atung i Tolerate ana?

    Kusog ta mu tolerate bitaw pero sa Simple kaayu nga issue sa RH Bill, kusog tah mu comment kay kini siya sayop kana siya sakto. Asa may Tolerate ana?
    If you think a belief violates yours, then by all means, don't subscribe to that belief. But don't impose your beliefs on others. Again, you can agree to disagree. That's tolerance. The problem starts when people start to believe na sila ra ang sakto, when in fact, they may not be after all. That's called being dogmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    All the world's major religions in the world essentially believe the same core concept of the Golden Rule. It's a concept that predates Christianity and was built into the justice systems of the oldest civilizations. Even an atheist will understand the wisdom of doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.
    Naa ba kahay old civilazation nga wa Mutuo ug Supreme Being/creator?

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    If you think a belief violates yours, then by all means, don't subscribe to that belief. But don't impose your beliefs on others. Again, you can agree to disagree. That's tolerance. The problem starts when people start to believe na sila ra ang sakto, when in fact, they may not be after all. That's called being dogmatic.
    What if ang uban Belief mu Violate na jud sa imung belief? unsa buhaton nimu? tolerance ghapon or mangita naka ug paagi or universal basis para mapamatud an nimu nga ni violate or sayop na siya?

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    Default Re: How we are all the same DESPITE religious affiliations or beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Naa ba kahay old civilazation nga wa Mutuo ug Supreme Being/creator?
    And your point being? That's what the TS is trying to say: whatever religious affiliation or belief you subscribe to, there's always common ground.

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