ufc vs. boxing

[jan1199]

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daog cguro wrestling bai.

[edge827]

modaug jud ang ufc uy kay mao mangud tanan, dili pareha sa boxer na boxing ra jud what if ma takedown ang boxer kamao kaha siya modepensya?

[Spec-V]

-t'was I think between UFC 4 - 7; When Steve Jenum (MMA) sqaures off a Light heavyweight aspiring Pro-Boxer. The result? The boxer did not even connect a Head shot & the Boxer goes for a clinch then Steve Jenum made a common Textbook Jui-Jitsu move (Hip Thow) & that was it Folks! It was Ground & Pound & an Armbar Finisher.

[ed168]

u2october 4, bro, cge pagbutang ug pictures, ingna pud imo trainer na pagtinud.aray, let say kung modouble leg takedown ka pwede ka i.uppercut kung makuha nmo sya, pwede ka sumbagon sa ribs or kidney ba,sumbag nga sumbag jud, using mma gloves, we want to see if u can take the blow,or can have a good follow up, n hu wil last or win. pls dont think otherwise, we just want to know the reality, safety first bro,kung mada contender nmo,ka match ba,kanang fight na fight jud,tnx a lot. n the boxer will rely to his instinct sa takedown,clinch,mma, etc.

[erwin_rommel]

speaking of stamina? do you do ground fighting? with tyson vs. vitor belfort, who do you think has enough time to go on the defensive, tyson learning wrestling, which in reality never in his life he has tackled, or vitor belfort who knows enough of defensive boxing to at least evade some head punches and go for the shoot, who do you think is more like to happen getting knocked out by a pundh, or getting taken down? have you sparred with someone who shoots first, mounts second, and punches (gnp) third? but if it was purely boxing then i go for tyson, but if you go mma? well heck, dont you realize that the accuracy of a head punch is not that high, thats why in boxing its very very common that the 2 adversary would get into a clinch, even tyson gets into the clinch, so consider this who wins in the clinc, the boxer who is used to stalling the the clinch or the mma fighter who can work from the clinch? and speaking about old time obxers going into mma, well thats a money matter imo, just wait, it all really depends on the person, like when i spar in kickbox i rely more on my boxing than on my kicks, as i do in mma its more boxing for me rather than kicks (dont kick hihg in mma-unless you have baseball bat for legs ex. crocop, yvel) youll get tossed, and speaking of power have been slammed by a boxer before? boxing is powerful on one thing alone 'punches" because thats what they all do, its like a blind man, he has enhanced hearing, because thats what he has. tomorrow saturday will be my boxing day, my training partner is an ex-pro, ill try to post picts to demonstrate my point, but if he catches me with a lucky punch im done, but i think my double leg takedwon is more accurate and has more rate of success than his one knockout punch.
IMO

maurice smith who is known to be a good kickboxer and not for takedown skills beat "the hammer" coleman who is a very good wrestler. in takedowns, what maurice did was to defend himself and do short punches. the result, coleman exhausted himself. all tyson needs to do against vitor belford is to have basic wrestling or jujitsu lessons and imo, that would be enough to make him defend himself in takedowns. and it could be done in few months of training. and remember, a boxer trains harder than a mma figher. he got superior strength than belford and a young tyson has great speed same as belford. if you think that punches of mike tyson during clinches is not powerful, try watching his fights during his prime and you can see that his punches are still very powerful even if its not done in full swing. i also dont think that belford could block tysons punches because blocking an ungloved punch from tyson is already very painful may break the bones in your arms. i will only change my mind that mma fighter is superior to a boxer in a street brawl if a good boxer who at least belong to the top 10 of his weight class will be convincingly beaten by a mma fighter. but i still dont see that happening now

[chocomai]

guys for your info lang ha.. i agree on u2october, and he knows what he is talking about.. because he himself is a sport fighter.was it "only the strong" or "Ground and Pound" ba to bro nga you 'fought' ?

ed168, its not easy to do uppercuts just like that. unless its pure boxing.

maurice smith vs mark coleman was very 'special' because maurice is a kickboxer! not a boxer.

[ravit]

tyson can kill with his gloves on.. unsa pa kaha og wala...remember boxers have defense too..

[ed168]

chocomai, uv got a point, i respect u2october,because he is a fighter, i also train some martial arts but not as good as him na pangfight na,hope he'll post often so that we can picture the reality. boxing is a very fast sports, let say if gracie dive for a grapple, a counter straight punch or uppercut from tyson or pacquiao, is dangerous,abtik kaau ang boxer gud,maytag kausa lng mosumbag..

iv seen sa national geographic channel na g.measure ang fist sa mga different martial arts, a heavy weight boxer is 993 lbs.!! ang running double leg flying kick sa kungfu master is i think 700 lbs, im not sure..imagine the impact, mura daw na syag sledge hammer gbunal sa imo ulo ingon ang physicists sa ngc, how much more slang tyson, klitchko, mga champions pila kaha ila?? ba.c ilang jab mga 400 lbs ang force, kusog ghapn, or a chip hit sa kilid mga 300 lbs..n gracie will absorb that force considering wla sya maanad compared to boxers, i think it will slow him.

bros sa timezone ayala ba, naay mosukod dg2 ug kumo in lbs, mahambog nana ko kung masobra ug 100 lbs hehe, straight 1 hand, bros, junior bantamweight rako,tapulan,sabta ninyo kung hinay hehe..

sa street fight i think fist is reliable kay dali ra ka makabalik sa position ingkaso dli maigo imong contra,naa sad ka sa position namakalihay or makadagan n kung makachamba ka, tulog jud imo contra, but if u play like a grappler,ul dive ur opponent hoping to catch its hip or legs, nakalihay,naa nka sa dangerous position.. kung naka timing ka na kargador imo contra or porter sa pier,pirting kusgana, its quiet hard to do grappling n kung gang attack??, naay tremendous physical contact lisud sad mo eskapo..i thnk dehado ang grappler sa multiple attack compared to boxer sa street,

mga bros im trying to apply the situation to us, whats the best martial art we'll b applying incase na mapeligro to sa street,shall we FIRST rely sa boxing skills na2 or grappling,jiujitsu,kicking?? wats the most reliable skill?? tnx a lot bros!!

[ravit]

gun.... bang bang bang... kuyaw nakaayo ang cebu ron..

[rave06]

Mas daghan ang money sa boxing coz its been around for decades. MMA is still in its first decade. So it is evolving, Mag fighter sauna usa ra ang discipilne, karon mga multi-skilled na .

But in the future this will become the ultimate sport. imagine an athlete versed in jujitsu, wresling and boxing rolled into one.