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  1. #11

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?


    My friend,

    Pharisees and Saducees are hypocrites, they have persecuted Christ.
    Time frame and the character must be known first before arriving at the conclusion.
    Before the time of Israel there's only one God has been introduce in the bible.
    But when Jesus Chirst came he introduce him as a God. And there will a time when Jesus surrender everything to God almighty and then we will only have one God.

    For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Romans 2:13.

    Ironside said that "God is revealed in the Bible as Creator
    question: will one be saved by believing that God is the Creator?"

    You haven't yet read the other discription and power of God in the Bible.
    We will be saved by our doings and acts base on the gospel and commandments of God.


    Everyone is invited to share their views and insights to explore our understanding with God.

  2. #12

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    My friend,

    Pharisees and Saducees are hypocrites, they have persecuted Christ.



    EXACTLY, BUT THEY WERE NOT ATHEISTS. THEY BELIEVED IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. BUT THEY WERE NOT SAVED. HENCE, THE STATEMENT IN MY PREVIOUS POST: "The Pharisees and Saducees believed that there is only one God to be worshipped. But they were not saved in believing that."





    Before the time of Israel there's only one God has been introduce in the bible.


    HOW MANY GOD'S ARE THERE MY FRIEND ACCORDING TO YOU? MY HUNCH [HUNCH...NOT CONCLUDING HERE JUST A HUNCH] IS YOU ARE EITHER JW OR ADD...AM I RIGHT?



    For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Romans 2:13.


    GOOD VERSE IF UNDERSTOOD IN ITS RIGHT CONTEXT.



    You haven't yet read the other discription and power of God in the Bible.


    HOW DO YOU KNOW MY FRIEND? ON WHAT BASIS DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS CONCLUSION? MY POINTS WERE JUST ILLUSTRATIVE. I THINK I WROTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS: "FOR EXAMPLE". BY THAT, ONE IS TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT SYSTEMATIC PRESENTATION OF ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.


    We will be saved by our doings and acts base on the gospel and commandments of God.


    BY THIS STATEMENT I NOW HAVE AN IDEA SOMEHOW ABOUT YOU MY FRIEND.........

    FIRST: LET ME REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN. ARE YOU FROM ADD? ARE YOU ONE OF THE DISCIPLES OF ELISEO SORIANO?







  3. #13

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    My friend,

    yes i know you put "for example" but you give a question about your example that's y I've answered.
    I didn't say that the Pharisee and Saducees are atheist, according to the bible they don't believed Christ.
    They look Christ as a man not a son of God. Your putting words on my mouth which i didn't said.

    You asked me how many God? Let me clarify your question.
    Are you asking True God or gods? There's a big difference if you talk about God and god.
    We believe the God the Father and his Son.

    I've cited Romans 2:13 becuase you wrote that faith alone, but we need to work in order to be justified.

    The way you write my friend i can see your anger about Eli Soriano and talking about your faith.
    My only point is to have a friendly discussion, but you've reply me in ALL CAPS.
    I know you know what ALL CAPS means.

    Yes I'm a member of Church of God International not ADD coz ADD is our program in T.V.
    Then how about you my friend what's your Church?

    Let's just exchange our thoughts and beliefs.
    Let us prove our faith through the word of God, there could be only one.

    Hope we will open our mind and set aside our pride.

    Peace!



  4. #14

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    My friend,

    yes i know you put "for example" but you give a question about your example that's y I've answered




    Good my friend. Then what is this statement for? "You haven't yet read the other discription and power of God in the Bible."

    Then you haven't answered my question based on that statement of yours:

    HOW DO YOU KNOW MY FRIEND? ON WHAT BASIS DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS CONCLUSION? MY POINTS WERE JUST ILLUSTRATIVE. I THINK I WROTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS: "FOR EXAMPLE". BY THAT, ONE IS TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT SYSTEMATIC PRESENTATION OF ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.




    I didn't say that the Pharisee and Saducees are atheist, according to the bible they don't believed Christ.They look Christ as a man not a son of God. Your putting words on my mouth which i didn't said.


    My friend who said that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Where in these words did i say that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Here read it again:

    "EXACTLY, BUT THEY WERE NOT ATHEISTS. THEY BELIEVED IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. BUT THEY WERE NOT SAVED. HENCE, THE STATEMENT IN MY PREVIOUS POST: "The Pharisees and Saducees believed that there is only one God to be worshipped. But they were not saved in believing that."

    Did i say that you said that they were atheists my friend? It seems to me you are creating a strawman my friend. Never once did i understood your words as saying that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists.




    The way you write my friend i can see your anger about Eli Soriano and talking about your faith.
    My only point is to have a friendly discussion, but you've reply me in ALL CAPS.
    I know you know what ALL CAPS means.




    It seems that you are reading into motives my friend. When somebody writes in "ALL CAPS" does it always mean that one is angry? Can it [ALL CAPS] be construed also that the writer maybe is only EMPHASIZING? SINCE THE WRITER HAS ASKED THE QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES...............

    I THINK I DESERVE AN APOLOGY.




    Yes I'm a member of Church of God International not ADD coz ADD is our program in T.V.
    Then how about you my friend what's your Church?



    The Church built by Christ in the New Testament my friend. What happened to your previous name?
    How long have you been a member of Soriano my friend?

    Let's just exchange our thoughts and beliefs.


    That's what I am doing here my friend. One thing i would like to add: Let us not be reading into someone else's post. Let's be objective. It will really tell on our maturity in handling a serious conversation. Your baseless conclusions has offended me frankly.

    I put it in italics since you might construe the ALL CAPS as me being angry. Which i was and am not.


    Hope we will open our mind and set aside our pride.


    That is the kind of conversation I would like to be in.

    Peace!



    Amen. my friend. peace


    P.S. Just asking: Why does Soriano say that God has a "puwet"? He based his doctrine on Genesis 1:26-27. Can you elaborate more my friend?





  5. #15

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    Hala!, Kinsa may ADD uy?

  6. #16

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    My friend,

    yes i know you put "for example" but you give a question about your example that's y I've answered




    Good my friend. Then what is this statement for? "You haven't yet read the other discription and power of God in the Bible."

    Then you haven't answered my question based on that statement of yours:

    HOW DO YOU KNOW MY FRIEND? ON WHAT BASIS DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS CONCLUSION? MY POINTS WERE JUST ILLUSTRATIVE. I THINK I WROTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS: "FOR EXAMPLE". BY THAT, ONE IS TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT SYSTEMATIC PRESENTATION OF ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.




    I didn't say that the Pharisee and Saducees are atheist, according to the bible they don't believed Christ.They look Christ as a man not a son of God. Your putting words on my mouth which i didn't said.


    My friend who said that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Where in these words did i say that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Here read it again:

    "EXACTLY, BUT THEY WERE NOT ATHEISTS. THEY BELIEVED IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. BUT THEY WERE NOT SAVED. HENCE, THE STATEMENT IN MY PREVIOUS POST: "The Pharisees and Saducees believed that there is only one God to be worshipped. But they were not saved in believing that."

    Did i say that you said that they were atheists my friend? It seems to me you are creating a strawman my friend. Never once did i understood your words as saying that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists.




    The way you write my friend i can see your anger about Eli Soriano and talking about your faith.
    My only point is to have a friendly discussion, but you've reply me in ALL CAPS.
    I know you know what ALL CAPS means.




    It seems that you are reading into motives my friend. When somebody writes in "ALL CAPS" does it always mean that one is angry? Can it [ALL CAPS] be construed also that the writer maybe is only EMPHASIZING? SINCE THE WRITER HAS ASKED THE QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES...............

    I THINK I DESERVE AN APOLOGY.




    Yes I'm a member of Church of God International not ADD coz ADD is our program in T.V.
    Then how about you my friend what's your Church?



    The Church built by Christ in the New Testament my friend. What happened to your previous name?
    How long have you been a member of Soriano my friend?

    Let's just exchange our thoughts and beliefs.


    That's what I am doing here my friend. One thing i would like to add: Let us not be reading into someone else's post. Let's be objective. It will really tell on our maturity in handling a serious conversation. Your baseless conclusions has offended me frankly.

    I put it in italics since you might construe the ALL CAPS as me being angry. Which i was and am not.


    Hope we will open our mind and set aside our pride.


    That is the kind of conversation I would like to be in.

    Peace!



    Amen. my friend. peace


    P.S. Just asking: Why does Soriano say that God has a "puwet"? He based his doctrine on Genesis 1:26-27. Can you elaborate more my friend?

    Ming-ingon si Soriano nga God has a "puwet"? Unsa man na? Kanang L_b_t kun bisayaon? Murag blasphemous na man na?



  7. #17

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside

    2) Believing that there is one God does not save. The Pharisees and Saducees believed that there is only one God to be worshipped. But they were not saved in believing that.

  8. #18

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    Quote Originally Posted by joniesca
    This statement is unfair. Only God can judge who will be save and not.

  9. #19

    Default Re: Is it right to call all of us children of God or we love God?

    you asked me this question,

    It seems that you are reading into motives my friend. When somebody writes in "ALL CAPS" does it always mean that one is angry? Can it [ALL CAPS] be construed also that the writer maybe is only EMPHASIZING? SINCE THE WRITER HAS ASKED THE QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES...............

    To emphasize just Caps a certain word or sentence but not the almost the entire Paragraph.

    P.S. Just asking: Why does Soriano say that God has a "puwet"? He based his doctrine on Genesis 1:26-27. Can you elaborate more my friend?

    Man was created to his own image and likeness, so he has "puwet".
    I know what you're like to point on us, does God will release stool or bowel?
    He has puwet coz He will sit on his throne. How He can sit without "puwet"?
    But doesn't have Tumbong or Quibot, God is Spirit.


    You wrote this one:
    That's what I am doing here my friend. One thing i would like to add: Let us not be reading into someone else's post. Let's be objective. It will really tell on our maturity in handling a serious conversation. Your baseless conclusions has offended me frankly.

    On what instance did i offend you, or i just touch your church doctrine or belief?
    Are an Baptist, INC or born again?


    The Church built by Christ in the New Testament my friend. What happened to your previous name?
    How long have you been a member of Soriano my friend?

    Off course it is, but we never claim that we are the Church that mention in the bible by Christ.
    even our great, great, great grandfather was not yet existed before the Church of Christ exist and preached.
    If you're going to look deeply our premise is "members of Church of God".
    Our previous name was prohibited by Law because some churches claim that we don't have the right to use it because they are the church of god daw.

    My friend who said that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Where in these words did i say that you said that the Pharisees and Saducees were atheists? Here read it again:

    That what you answered me to prove that Pharisees and Saducees believed in one God
    You can feel free to ask my friend or even question our doctrine.


  10. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by joniesca
    This statement is unfair. Only God can judge who will be save and not.
    True my friend, God will judge all mankind base on his words and doctrine.

    Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
    Acts 17 : 31.

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16.

    For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
    4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4.


    Peace to us!



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