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    cge tira pa unya wa kabalo nga kung dili sa mga katsila nga gadala sa katolisismo diri sa pilipinas di mo ma protestante sige pa tira pa!

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    They should also apologize for their involvement with the Nazis







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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey360 View Post
    They should also apologize for their involvement with the Nazis







    palagot sa kontra lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    How about the sins of landgrabbing committed during Spanish times? Puwede pa to ipang uli?
    Nice point there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    the church has done so much hurt and yet they could only use WORDS to amend those mistakes.
    Are you implying that reparations should be made to the victims of the church's atrocities? I believe they are already doing this to child abuse victims.

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    the RCC is asking for forgiveness. they acknowledge their mistakes and are making up for it. they are just human. by nature asking for forgiveness is difficult much more to forgive. no wonder some people just cant get enough of critisizing.it brings out the man in you plus you get to be mr historian know it all the scandals of the RCC thing..oooo makes you feel soooo gooood.tonk! o ts sunday the man you are critisizing will hear you mass today. and some will say...im not hearing mass im going to praise and worship gotta pay tribute to the man who thought me how to hit the RCC.toink! and some will play safe and will say im mr. atheist any one i miss?

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    it's a good thing to recognize such mistake.. but knowing how RC as an institution works this is just for show

  8. #18
    lolz..there's always criticism. oh well.. istoryans love to argue, I leave you "know it all" guys to it.. pero kamo naka ask namo forgiveness sa inyung mga naka kontra or to those people na inyung na buhaton ug sayup? lisod pod noh... mo angkon sa atong sayup.. "pride"

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    lolz..there's always criticism. oh well.. istoryans love to argue, I leave you "know it all" guys to it.. pero kamo naka ask namo forgiveness sa inyung mga naka kontra or to those people na inyung na buhaton ug sayup? lisod pod noh... mo angkon sa atong sayup.. "pride"
    LOL bright kaayo ka.. bitaw bai di ko pareha ka bagag nawong sa simbahan nga mangayo og pasaylo sa akong mga kontra, pero in my defense wala pud ko nangawat sa ubang tao, o nang-rape og bata.. so dili sad ingon ana ka importante nga mangayo ko og pasaylo. in other words bai, wala ra juy kamingking sa gibuhat sa simbahan ang mga sala nako.

    Also bai.. di ba ang sakto nga termino ani "biktima" dili "kontra" kai dili man necessarily mga kontra ang gipangayoan og pasaylo sa simbahan.. mga BIKTIMA man na nila.

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    does this represent Christianity?

    The Return of Christian Terrorism
    Threats of right-wing violence have doubled in the past year. What is behind the latest upsurge in the movement to create a Christian theocratic state?

    April 15, 2010 When Scott Roeder, the murderer of Wichita Kansas abortion clinic provider Dr. George Tiller, had his day in court, he spent much of his rambling self-defense quoting the words of another abortion clinic assassin, Reverend Paul Hill. In the 1990s my own research had brought me into conversation with others in the inner circle in which Hill and Roeder were at that

    time involved. So it was a chilling experience for me to realize that this awful mood of American Christian terrorism—culminating in the catastrophic attack on the Oklahoma City Federal Builiding—has now returned.

    Christian terrorism has returned to America with a vengeance. And it is not just Roeder. When members of the Hutaree militia in Michigan and Ohio recently were arrested with plans to kill a random policeman and then plant Improvised Explosive Devices in the area where the funeral would be held to kill hundreds more, this was a terrorist plot of the sort that would impress Shi’ite militia and al Qaeda activists in Iraq. The Southern Poverty Law Center, founded by Morris Dees, which has closely watched the rise of right-wing extremism in this country for many decades, declares that threats and incidents of right-wing violence have risen 200% in this past year—unfortunately coinciding with the tenure of the first African-American president in US history. When Chip Berlet, one of this country’s best monitors of right-wing extremism, warned in a perceptive essay last week on RD that the hostile right-wing political climate in this country has created the groundwork for a demonic new form of violence and terrorism, I fear that he is correct.

    Christian Warrior, Sacred Battle

    Though these new forms of violence are undoubtedly political and probably racist, they also have a religious dimension. And this brings me back to what I know about Rev. Paul Hill, the assassin who the similarly misguided assassin, Scott Roeder, quoted at length in that Wichita court room last week. In 1994, Hill, a Presbyterian pastor at the extreme fringe of the anti-abortion activist movement, came armed to a clinic in Pensacola, Florida. He aimed at Dr. John Britton, who was entering the clinic along with his bodyguard, James Barrett. The shots killed both men and wounded Barrett’s wife, Joan. Hill immediately put down his weapon and was arrested; presenting an image of someone who knew that he would be arrested, convicted, and executed by the State of Florida for his actions, which he was in 2003. This would make Hill something of a Christian suicide attacker.

    What is interesting about Hill and his supporters is not just his political views, but also his religious ones. As I reported in my book, Terror in the Mind of God, and in an essay for RD several months ago, Hill framed his actions as those of a Christian warrior engaged in sacred battle. “My eyes were opened to the enormous impact” such an event would have, he wrote, adding that “the effect would be incalculable.” Hill said that he opened his Bible and found sustenance in Psalms 91: “You will not be afraid of the terror by night, or of the arrow that flies by day.” Hill interpreted this as an affirmation that his act was biblically approved.

    Source:http://www.alternet.org/belief/14643...tian_terrorism

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