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    Another interesting video. I think Physicists around the world are going crazy because my colleagues certainly are.

    VIdeo News Release : Higgs Update 2011 B-Roll - YouTube
    https://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1406051

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    im wondering..what if Higgs boson particle exist, then they can fine a way to control/manipulate it.

    F=ma , if you can control/manipulate the mass and make it zero or nearly zero..

    F/(m->0) = a ?

    a massless train? a massless spaceship? lightspeed acceleration? (me dreaming )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    I appreciate the never ending search of Man for answers to the unknown but I just wish they'd put a lot more money in fixing social problems (famine, poverty and war) first before delving into the infinitely minute particles that make up the (un)known universe.
    Look, it's these posts again.

    My partner asked me why we should be interested in the search for the Higgs boson, and how that could be worth £6 billion. I failed to convince her. So now I'm asking you the same question. : askscience

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    OT: it's pretty fun when you post something that keeps a thread going.

    With the current applications of CERN's past research, I don't doubt that whatever they find will benefit the race of Man as a whole, given time. I'm hoping they'll find substancial evidence of the Higgs Boson, complete the Standard Model, move the string theory forward and save the race of Man.

    rodsky: good point.

    personalmgt: my apologies, but you completely lost me with "Look, it's these posts again." The link was a good read, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by fritzd View Post
    Another interesting video. I think Physicists around the world are going crazy because my colleagues certainly are.

    VIdeo News Release : Higgs Update 2011 B-Roll - YouTube
    https://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1406051
    that was all greek to me (my IQ happens to be in the negative) except for the comment by TurkiyeCumhurbaskani at the bottom of the page: Higgs Boson exists, he works at 7eleven, he is from india.
    Last edited by Reginald; 12-14-2011 at 02:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    that was all greek to me (my IQ happens to be in the negative) except for the comment by TurkiyeCumhurbaskani at the bottom of the page: Higgs Boson exists, he works at 7eleven, he is from india.
    Putting jokes aside and as well your opinion on social problems, Peter Higgs deserves credit for all this. Peter Higgs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Default Re: What's Up at CERN and the Search for 'Higgs'?

    Quote Originally Posted by fritzd View Post
    Another interesting video. I think Physicists around the world are going crazy because my colleagues certainly are.

    VIdeo News Release : Higgs Update 2011 B-Roll - YouTube
    https://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1406051
    I guess I would go gaga too, if physics was my profession, and just a few months away, the possibility of "new physics" would be looming in the horizon. That's like landing on a new planet.

    -RODION

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    What if they brought The World’s Fastest Camera and put it beside the current instruments at the LHC?

    I hope this will help them find Higgs bosom, urk, boson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    What if they brought The World’s Fastest Camera and put it beside the current instruments at the LHC?

    I hope this will help them find Higgs bosom, urk, boson.
    Maybe. But using photons is not a very reliable way of detecting subatomic particles. Instead they use the classical Lorentz force to detect particles since charge or they just detect the charged subatomic particles and retrace everything from how a neutral subatomic particle would decay. However, this is a simplified explanation. The truth is much more complicated than this.

    Anyway, they use huge Magnetic fields to detect all those subatomic particles. That is why they those gigantic superconducting coils. More information here. How huge particle detectors actually detect tiny particles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    What if they brought The World’s Fastest Camera and put it beside the current instruments at the LHC?
    Reg, you have just exhibited a classic tendency known as the "visible light bias." If you look at the whole electromagnetic spectrum, visible light (i.e. the light we humans are very dependent on to see, and the light we utilize in the USUAL forms of photography) is just a tiny sliver in the entire line...



    ...and thus it's a natural bias. This is a reminder that it's important to consider photography or detection well beyond the visible light spectrum (i.e. infrared, UV or X Ray wavelengths), and thus your "world's fastest camera", since it's partial to visible light, may in fact be a poor detection device.

    -RODION

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    Another thing...In the quantum world, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle makes idea of a camera detecting subatomic particles futile. Not that I know what the folks at CERN do to detect the Higgs, but my guess is that the Higgs will have to be inferred from data...data crunched out from supercomputers. I honestly don't know either.

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