AMD compatibilities

[yugi]

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Kamo ba naa nasad mo ani dahh mag lalis napud ang fan boys..ayaw lage mo ana kay daghan pa baya walay alam mga doh...kaw pud buts pasensyai nalang na sila maski daghan pakag alam gamita lang na sa maayo na pamaagi ayaw insultoha ang uban.

@TS yup better read AMD's compatibility guide naa mana sa ilang site jud before ka mo palit ug mobo. Then imong motherboard if mo buy ka naa manpud ka compatible processor so there is no way nga masayop ka basta mo basa jud.

Cge...

[Ryuugan]

@yugi

actually i have no problem on my motherboard right now...

but im just a little confused on this socket...AM2...
from articles i read before, it says that AM2 socket motherboards supports AM2+ and AM3 processors but has a disadvantage.... but what i really want to know is its disadvantage...

honestly i got a spare AM2 ECS (forgot the model) motherboard at my room, and im planning to build it again soon... but AM2 processors are hard to find right now, AM3 are easiest this to find now, followed by AM2+...

[werty]

basically, any AM2 motherboard should be able to run AM2+ or AM3 cpus, but an AM3 motherboard will not be able to run AM2 or AM2+ cpu. thats because of the number of pins. it all boils down if AM2 manufacturers actually design their motherboards to support the power requirements of the higher AM2+/AM3 cpus and has bios support...

the disadvantage you mean would be running the HT speeds of AM2+(1800Mhz) or AM3(2600Mhz) to 1000Mhz, but i dont think i causes a lot of performance loss...

correct me if i am wrong....

[yugi]

Mao lage maka libog sa sockets sa AMD mao pud nakasayop nila kay they didnt even solved the problems of their processors during the time they compete w/ intel. They keep on changing sockets then and that's what makes them LUGI that time. Unlike intel they only stick to LGA 775 socket until they find to solved the problem from their P4 socket.

Btw do to answer your query mas maayo jud unsa imong processor socket mao imong gamiton kay if imong processor am3 running on am2 for instance of course limited kaayo iyang capabilities where am3 can handle both ddr2/ddr3 memory controllers so sayang then penalize kaayo imong processor na am3 on socket am2 di cya ka boost.

I suggest i baligya nalang na imong AM2 na mobo then buy a new mobo nga am3 then palit pud kag am3 na processor para compatible jud.

[butitoy]

sowi...hehehe

di ko fanboy pud.

nko AMD X2 sa haus..

but its fairly annoying when anyone seed misinformation..people come here to learn something true and real.

@ topic:

@yugi

actually i have no problem on my motherboard right now...

but im just a little confused on this socket...AM2...
from articles i read before, it says that AM2 socket motherboards supports AM2+ and AM3 processors but has a disadvantage.... but what i really want to know is its disadvantage...

honestly i got a spare AM2 ECS (forgot the model) motherboard at my room, and im planning to build it again soon... but AM2 processors are hard to find right now, AM3 are easiest this to find now, followed by AM2+...

yeah. naa na cya drawback when ur AM2 board is installed with an AM2+ processor..

here :AM2+ CPU in a AM2 motherboard, system bus speed downgrade - CPUs - CPU-Components

*Note: If you install AMD AM2+ CPU on AM2 motherbord, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0(5200MHz) to HT1.0(2000 MT/s) spec; however, the frequency of AM2+ CPU will not be impacted.

Socket AM2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Socket AM2+ Main article: Socket AM2+
Socket AM2+ is an intermediate successor to socket AM2, which features split power planes, and HyperTransport 3.0. Socket AM2+ chips can plug into a socket AM2 motherboard, but operate only with HyperTransport 2.0. AM2 CPUs are no longer manufactured, and are usually only buyable second hand.
Socket AM3 Main article: Socket AM3
Socket AM3 processors may be able to run on Socket AM2 and AM2+ motherboards, but not vice-versa. AM3 processors will have a new memory controller supporting both DDR2 and DDR3 SDRAM, allowing backwards compatibility with AM2 and AM2+ motherboards. Since AM2 processors lack the new memory controller, they will not work on AM3 motherboards.

[Ryuugan]

i forgot the model of the ECS board i got... ill check it...

all i can remember is that, it supports AM2, DDR2 and PCI-E

[yugi]

No problem buts ani manta sa istorya bahh medyo lalis pero ok ra gihapon at the end...

Bitaw @TS butitoy knows best so follow his opinion.

[Ryuugan]

for example i have Athlon 64 X2 5000 (AM2+ processor), same speed i get when using it on a AM2 board?

[butitoy]

salamat bro yugi..but naa pay DAGHAN KAAYO nga MAS MAAYO kaayo nako ngari..

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AM2 is confined on DDR2 only.

AMD Phenom™ II X4 | Quad-Core | Up to 3.4 GHz | Up to 4000 MHz | Up to 512 KB | Up to 128 KB per core | 65W to 140W

AMD Phenom™ X4 | Quad-Core | Up to 2.6 GHz | Up to 4000 MHz | Up to 512 KB | Up to 128 KB per core | 65W to 140W

AMD Phenom™ X3 | Triple-Core | Up to 2.5 GHz | Up to 3600 MHz | Up to 512 KB | Up to 128 KB per core | 65W to 95W

AMD Athlon™ X2 | Dual-Core | Up to 3.2 GHz | Up to 3600 MHz | Up to 1024 KB | Up to 128 KB per core | 35W to 125W

Desktop Line Level Comparison for Desktop CPU lines

All AM3 motherboards use DDR3 memory.

All motherboards with AM(anything but 3) in the socket support use DDR2.

So an AM2+/AM3 board is an AM2 motherboard with support for AM3 CPUs - and uses DDR2

DDR2 1066 limitations

The limitation about 1066 RAM and dual-channel DOES NOT mean you can't run dual-channel with an AM2+/AM3 motherboard.

It means that if you put 4 modules into the board, instead of just two, then the max speed of the RAM will be 800MHz rather than 1066.

You can still use 1066 RAM and can put in a 3rd/4th stick of 1066, but it won't run at 1066.

This is a minor thing, I run my 1066 RAM at 800 because it's faster as 800 anyway.

credit goes to the original thread poster.....

[werty]

for example i have Athlon 64 X2 5000 (AM2+ processor), same speed i get when using it on a AM2 board?

yup, same raw speed lang gihapon kay imo main BUS or FSB is still 200mhz x (cpu multiplier), only the HT-link will be downgraded to 1000Mhz instead of 1800Mhz, mao ni sya ang operating frequency from the CPU to the chipset(called FSB sa mga old school motherboard designs).

correct me if im wrong coz im only replying on what my stock knowledge has remembered. kapoi na research :P