Biblical truth be told

[necrotic freak]

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necrotic freak says:
- ^^Sir, does it mean that our bible today is not anymore inspired word of God? but it is now the inspired word of the translator?

Pein says:
- what do you think? dili word of God ang naa sa bible? unsa man diay? ang Quran?
tsk tsk tsk!

My Reply:
- I'm not saying that what we have is not the word of God. I am just answering the question straightly. And if you don't get or have realized the original question, here it is:

Is the bible you have now, the inspired word of God?

- I have replied, No. Today we have only the translations.
My comment is this: People including, Christians, wanted to claim that the translations we have are the inerrant and infallible Word of God. What's the deal? The most important that we still have the manual for us to be used at least it contains TRUTH. While the most important thing to note is that the Original Author is right within ourselves (if you are a born again believer) - The Holy Spirit. The Bible says,

John 16:13-15 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

When we realize that we have errors in our translation, we come to God in prayer and that He will illuminate us through His Spirit (who is the original author of the Bible). The only problem although is that most Christians don't know how to access the throne room of God and doesn't even know how to be lead and guided by the Holy Spirit.

I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.

Thank you for your detailed reply sir.. BTW, may i ask if you are a catholic apologetics sir?

[Malic]

I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.

ah okay.

previously you mentioned that you have the copies of the copies of the copies of the Original one.

any concrete proof for that claim? and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them is identical w/c of them do you think is the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?

[RolandBarroJr]

ah okay.

previously you mentioned that you have the copies of the copies of the copies of the Original one.

any concrete proof for that claim? and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them is identical w/c of them do you think is the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?

My Reply: When we say copies of copies it means that when the original one is still available, Christians in those times find time to copy it. When they the copy they will bring it with them. By the time they will visit other believers they will discuss things and as soon as they remember that they have copy one manuscipt i.e. letter of an Apostle the will then allow their fellow believer to copy it. What will be chances are as soon as their is human intervention accuracy will diminish. As that will be the case that copy which has an inaccurate words copied will now be copied by other. And this cycle of events will happend. That's the meaning of COPIES OF COPIES OF COPIES. Do I have to prove that?

[RolandBarroJr]

Thank you for your detailed reply sir.. BTW, may i ask if you are a catholic apologetics sir?

I am Born Again Church Age Believer who are called nowadays - Christians. Not a Catholic or of any other religion. Religion is of Satan - he's best weapon. It distroys Christianity. It divides the Universal Chruch - the Spiritual Body of Christ. God does not, did not and would not advocate religion.

[Malic]

My Reply: When we say copies of copies it means that when the original one is still available, Christians in those times find time to copy it. When they the copy they will bring it with them. By the time they will visit other believers they will discuss things and as soon as they remember that they have copy one manuscipt i.e. letter of an Apostle the will then allow their fellow believer to copy it. What will be chances are as soon as their is human intervention accuracy will diminish. As that will be the case that copy which has an inaccurate words copied will now be copied by other. And this cycle of events will happend. That's the meaning of COPIES OF COPIES OF COPIES. Do I have to prove that?

I knew what you mean by "copy of the copy." When we say original, we are referring to the autographs, correct?

the original questions are...

1)any concrete proof for that claim?(the claim that they are really copies of the original) 2) and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them are identical w/c of them do you think are the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?

its up to you if you can prove it then do so.

[necrotic freak]

I am Born Again Church Age Believer who are called nowadays - Christians. Not a Catholic or of any other religion. Religion is of Satan - he's best weapon. It distroys Christianity. It divides the Universal Chruch - the Spiritual Body of Christ.

I see... so you are a believer that has no religion?

What is the word Catholic mean to you?

As a Born Again Church Age Believer, what are you before you been called nowaday christians?

[RolandBarroJr]

I knew what you mean by "copy of the copy." When we say original, we are referring to the autographs, correct?

the original questions are...

1)any concrete proof for that claim?(the claim that they are really copies of the original) 2) and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them are identical w/c of them do you think are the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?

its up to you if you can prove it then do so.

1)any concrete proof for that claim?(the claim that they are really copies of the original)
- My Reply: Malic, you are using the word THEYit means it is not me. Why won't you ask them.

2) and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them are identical w/c of them do you think are the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?
- My Reply: NONE, since those are copies of copies of copies. Why can't you get it. God allowed the original one to be lost of some sort for us to rely on Him through the Holy Spirit.

[Malic]

1)any concrete proof for that claim?(the claim that they are really copies of the original)
- My Reply: Malic, you are using the word THEYit means it is not me. Why won't you ask them.

2) and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them are identical w/c of them do you think are the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?
- My Reply: NONE, since those are copies of copies of copies. Why can't you get it. God allowed the original one to be lost of some sort for us to rely on Him through the Holy Spirit.

oh sorry, should it be "those?" please don't dwell on some insignificant point. any honest apologist can understand the question. and let me remind you that you have violated a rule in apologetic.

question 1, i got no answer and you have provided no proof. thank you.

question 2, you said "NONE" , see the question again.


have a nice day.

[RolandBarroJr]

I see... so you are a believer that has no religion?

What is the word Catholic mean to you?

As a Born Again Church Age Believer, what are you before you been called nowaday christians?

What is the word Catholic mean to you?
My Reply: Catholic means Universal.

As a Born Again Church Age Believer, what are you before you been called nowaday christians?
My Reply: An unbeliever. If mean religion? My religion before is Roman Catholic. When I became a believer, I became a member of a denomination called FUNDAMENTAL BATISTS which is also a religion. Not long I discovered that religion is of Satan. It is Satan's greatest weapon. It breaks Christians apart.

[josephdc]

I am Born Again Church Age Believer who are called nowadays - Christians. Not a Catholic or of any other religion. Religion is of Satan - he's best weapon. It distroys Christianity. It divides the Universal Chruch - the Spiritual Body of Christ. God does not, did not and would not advocate religion.

Hello bro.

What do you mean when you said that Christianity is not a religion?