Romans 9:18-23

[Tirong-say]

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do we exist for god's entertainment? the verses seems to suggests that

GOD merely wants us to respond in accordance with his love towards us. Even the fathers and the sires in this world had their own definition about paternal love.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

ang "conditional" kay naa ra sa imo hunahuna, kay kung mudawat ka sa ako gisulti tabla ra imo gitulon ang imo gisulti.

Ngano gud naka ingon ka nga conditional?

Peace!

kay daghan man ug "IFs" and "THENs." if buotan ka, then God will be good to you. if masuko ang God, then punishment ka.

IF sweto na kaayo ka sa bibliya, THEN God is on your side?

[flying fish]

everything happens for a reason.

So you are predestined for a reason sir?

[NASYO]

its simply shows that WHATEVER how we look in this life or our status in this life STILL WE ARE EQUAL TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

GOD won't give mercy for those who didn't show mercy.

People has many complaint for not having what others have or complaining why they don't have what their FLESH WANTS, like fortune, fame and health.

The most important we must know what's our duty, POOR and RICH both has chance for eternal life.

PEace!

more lyk communism? Socialism? Avatarism?

[hizuka007]

kinsa man pud nagsulti anang sa passage nga gipost? ... kay diha mana makita ang katag ba.

[treize]

depende ra na asa ka agi.. ari ba ka sa wala o sa tuo...

[jamesmusslewhite]

Remember the phrase. "I am the Alpha and the Omega."

He is in the beginning of man and is at the end of man. This would mean that he know the choices that each man has made even before he was born, even as he molded Adam the first man would he have know the destinies of each man born after. We are all locked into a path as a single thread in a huge complex and intricate tapestry; thus we are all created and placed at his will to devise his desired outcome. I do not believe in predestination in the aspect of the denial of our free will, rather the outcome of the actions and choices of our free will are known in advance.

Example. In the movie Back to the Future 2, a character steals the time machine to go back into the past. He has purchased a book of sports trivia in the future to give to himself in his past. When he gives the book to his past self, he tells him it will make him rich. This would change his present situation of being poor in the future. Each team that played after he received that book, would be played out with the outcome of their scores known.

Were the teams predestined to win or lose, or were their scores simply know by having the foreknowledge of their outcomes? Were they engineered in advance to achieve a desired score, or the foreknowledge of their outcomes allow one to manipulate or change events. Could someone actually go back in a time machine and change history as we know it? Could we stop an assassination or assassinate a political figure, thus changing our future? Some say yes you can, but there is a paradox. If the past could be changed by manipulation of the creation of a time device in the future, than the actions and outcome of their effect would have ready been recorded in that past. Even if 2 thousand years later someone travels back in time to change events, the events had not changed. This means their efforts had failed or they were already recorded if completed.

This the paradox, is Judas created to fulfill the prophecy of betraying Christ. Is that the sole purpose he was created "Predestined", or is the choices he will make just foreknowledge allowing God to manipulate him for the completion of his will? Could Judas have made different choices, thus changing his future outcome? Was Judas's role a product of his own choices and actions of his own free will?

[silent-kill]

would you agree that somehow we are god's toys? or some character in a movie that god is making that we need to perform our roles may it be good or bad?

would this make freewill an illusion?

we question why, but can we really do something about it?
can we rebel against his will? when his will for us is to rebel against him? LOL

[Tirong-say]

would you agree that somehow we are god's toys? or some character in a movie that god is making that we need to perform our roles may it be good or bad?

would this make freewill an illusion?

we question why, but can we really do something about it?
can we rebel against his will? when his will for us is to rebel against him? LOL

The ultimate and infinite happiness is in GOD's kingdom in heaven. What GOD merely asked from us is to follow him and his righteousness.

[treize]

all he asked is to love and respect one another...