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    Quote Originally Posted by street_of_no_return View Post
    ^kuyawa ani nila wue.. murag mag mga CIA suhito kaau..
    I don't see how you need CIA expertise to understand geopolitics in the works.

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    dle ni cla mga CIA bai!mga BOY SWETO NI CLA DRE...

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    Britain sent poison gas chemicals to Assad: Proof that the UK delivered Sarin agent to Syrian regime for SIX years

    - British companies delivered sodium flouride to Syrian firm from 2004-2010
    - The chemical is a key component in manufacture of nerve gas
    - Sale has been blasted as 'grossly irresponsible' in light of chemical attacks
    - Intelligence expert says substance will have been diverted to regime

    British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could have been used to produce the deadly nerve agent that killed 1,400 people, The Mail on Sunday can reveal today.

    Between July 2004 and May 2010 the Government issued five export licences to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, which is used to make sarin.

    The Government last night admitted for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria – a clear breach of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances that has been condemned as ‘grossly irresponsible’.

    The sales were made at a time when President Bashar Assad was strongly suspected to be stockpiling the chemical weapons that have caused an international crisis.

    The UK firms delivered sodium fluoride to a Syrian cosmetics company for what they claim were legitimate purposes. But intelligence experts believe President Assad’s regime uses such companies to divert chemicals into its weapons programme.

    ‘Previously we thought that while export licences had been granted, no chemicals were actually delivered. Now we know that in the build-up to the Syrian civil war, UK companies – with the backing of our Government – were supplying this potentially lethal substance.

    ‘While the last export licence was issued in May 2010, these licences are obtained prior to manufacture and the industry standard is for four to five months to pass before the chemicals are delivered.

    'So we are looking at late 2010 for the British supplies of sodium fluoride reaching Syria. The Government has some very serious questions to answer.’

    Last week it was revealed that the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) had granted export licences in 2012 – but they were not used to send sodium fluoride to Syria.

    Last night the BIS refused to answer questions regarding how much sodium fluoride was bought and sold – or which companies were involved.

    Intelligence expert Richard Kemp, a former member of the Government’s COBRA emergency committee, said last night: ‘President Assad would undoubtedly have diverted legitimately exported supplies of sodium fluoride in order to make chemical weapons.

    ‘He would have absolutely no qualms about doing this, and his practice was well known to British diplomats and our intelligence agencies. In this light, it is grossly irresponsible of BIS to have approved these licences from 2004 to 2010.’

    Scientists at the UK’s military research laboratory at Porton Down proved that sarin was used in the chemical attack on August 21 after testing items of clothing recovered from the scene.

    The US says the attack, near Damascus, killed 1,429 people, including 426 children.

    And yesterday, EU officials meeting in Lithuania announced that they are convinced that the chemical attack was the work of President Assad’s forces rather than any opposition fighters.

    Last night a senior scientist condemned the sale, as Syria is one of just five countries to have refused to sign protocols against the use of chemical weapons.

    The other nations not to have signed up to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) accords are North Korea, South Sudan, Egypt and Angola.

    Professor Alastair Hay, a toxicology expert at Leeds University, said: ‘The Government’s approval of sodium fluoride sales to Syria during a period when it was widely suspected the regime was stockpiling dangerous substances is deeply disturbing.

    'This was a serious mistake on BIS’s part as while sodium fluoride has a multitude of benign uses, such as toothpaste, it remains a key ingredient in the manufacture of sarin. Quite simply, you need fluoride to make sarin.

    Given Syria’s refusal to sign up to the OPCW’s regulations I cannot see any justification for these sales. Have we learned nothing since the 1990s? Back then sodium fluoride was sold by the UK to intermediaries buying the chemical for Iraq where Saddam Hussein gassed his own people.’

    Former Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind also condemned the sale. He said: ‘When you have a dual-use chemical and one of the uses is for the construction of chemical weapons, as a general policy that should not be permitted for sale to any regime that is either known to have or might be interested in constructing chemical weapons or to a country that has failed to sign up to the international accords on the trade in restricted substances.

    ‘So in the case of these licences being awarded to sell sodium fluoride to Syria it sounds as if some serious errors were made.’

    The BIS approved the sales of sodium fluoride to Syria on the basis that it was strictly for use in the cosmetics industry. But last night, a department spokesman said naming the firms involved in the trade would breach their client confidentiality.

    Sarin, which is made by combining the fluorine in sodium fluoride with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and phosphorous, is considered one of the world’s most dangerous chemical warfare agents. It disrupts the nervous system, over-stimulating muscles and vital organs.

    It is more than 500 times as toxic as cyanide. It can be inhaled as a gas or absorbed through the skin. In high doses, sarin suffocates its victims by paralysing the muscles around their lungs, and one drop can kill in minutes.

    Last night a BIS spokesman said: ‘The five licences were granted to two UK exporters. We cannot publish their names for reasons of commercial confidentiality. The end users were two Syrian commercial companies.

    'The quantities of sodium fluoride involved were commensurate with the stated end use in the production of cosmetics and there was no reason to link them with Syria’s chemical weapons programme. This remains the case.’


    Britain sent poison gas chemicals to Assad: Proof that the UK delivered Sarin agent to Syrian regime for SIX years | Mail Online

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    Mao niy modern debater sa Plaza sa una. kung maka soroy mog plaza before naay daghan tapok2 dha mag debate bsag unsa, samot nag relihiyon mag iyahay ug pakita mga bibliya or bsag unsa klasehang libro


    pero karon modern naman ta..


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    Russia,Iran n some western European countries sold chemicals to Syria. From new York times report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by street_of_no_return View Post
    ^kuyawa ani nila wue.. murag mag mga CIA suhito kaau..
    I don't think you would post an ad hominem if you had something to contribute intellectually on this discussion in the first place. You don't have to be an experienced clandestine service agent to understand international relations (heck, this is even a bachelor's degree in most universities - thus non-CIA people). I know this cuz I have a friend who earned this degree at the GWU.

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    I just hope nga dli na lang mo intervene ang US or for that matter ang UN sa Civil war sa Syria let them settle it in there own.......

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    Obama is partly to be blame....paeta ani nga samok oi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    With thousands of U.S. troops in Iraq for the foreseeable future, I am sure that they have veto powers over anything that the Government does.
    Wala ka kabalo nga ang US Troops already withdrawn in Iraq? Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sent them packing.

    Iraq is ruled by a Shia now and it is cooperating with Iran which they formed the Shia Crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

    Kinsa man sad nag ingon nimo nga naay veto powers ang US sa Iraq kai sure man kaau ka?

    Baby Come Back: Iraq is Buying Russian Weapons Again
    Last edited by flanker; 09-09-2013 at 02:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    Wala ka kabalo nga ang US Troops already withdrawn in Iraq? Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sent them packing.

    Iraq is ruled by a Shia now and it is cooperating with Iran which they formed the Shia Crescent from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

    Kinsa man sad nag ingon nimo nga naay veto powers ang US sa Iraq kai sure man kaau ka?

    Baby Come Back: Iraq is Buying Russian Weapons Again
    "Iraq is being re-armed because it has no arms especially that the Americans have left them totally defenceless on every front especially after the withdrawal of the forces and they are not supplying them with arms."

    Sabah al-Mukhtar, the president of the Arab Lawyers Association in the UK

    Source: Al Jazeera


    America is preparing to supply Iraq with weapons worth $ 4 billion and experts find it necessary to protect

    Read more: America is preparing to supply Iraq with weapons worth $ 4 billion and experts find it necessary to protect - Iraq & Dinar Related News - Dinar Vets Message Board
    Last edited by wak_wak; 09-09-2013 at 02:23 PM.

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