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    Default Re: 20 big lies in DaVinci Code.


    ka alegre ba ani nga thread oi... PWERTE KA FICTION PERO NAA GIHAPON MOTUO NGA TINUOD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StyM
    some info i found in the philippine star.
    Falsehoods peppering Da Vinci Code exposed
    POSTSCRIPT By Federico D. Pascual, Jr.
    The Philippine Star 05/16/2006

    BROWN LIES: I have spotted many assertions of Dan Brown in his book The Da Vinci Code that do not jibe with what I know to be true.

    But like many other bothered Catholics, I feel inadequate to challenge all his lies. I therefore throw at him James A. Beverley, associate director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion in Santa Barbara and professor of Christian Thought and Ethics at Tyndale Seminary in Toronto.

    Exposing the falsehoods on which the book and the movie rest, we create, according to Beverley, "an unprecedented opportunity for believers to witness about the reliability of the Bible and its central redemptive message – that the Son of God became flesh, died on the cross and rose again."

    Lack of space limits us to just a few of the points that Beverly raises in an article in Charisma magazine (http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=12860), but better a few than none at all.

    Why all the fuss over a work of fiction? Beverley says the answer lies on Page 1, where Brown asserts that "all descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate." Yet, critics have noted its mistakes in mathematics, French geography and even the layout of the Louvre. Brown’s claims about Jesus, the Bible, secret societies and ritual *** are "based on shallow research, sloppy investigation and careless thought."

    POINT-BY-POINT: Here are some of the lies that peppered Brown’s book followed by Beverley’s remarks:

    1.The Bible was invented by Roman Emperor Constantine in the fourth century.

    The Da Vinci Code reports that "Constantine commissioned and financed a new Bible," one that left out the Gnostic texts and included the four traditional Gospels. The fact is: Constantine had nothing to do with the making of the Christian canon. He is not even mentioned in the standard Cambridge History of the Bible. The traditional Gospels were recognized by virtually all Christians 150 years before Constantine.

    2. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gnostic Gospels are the "earliest Christian records."

    Not so. The Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947 and date from 250 B.C. to A.D. 100. However, these documents have virtually nothing to do with Christianity but with various Jewish groups, rituals and ideas before and during the time of Christ. The Gnostic Gospels offer a twisted and heretical version of the Christian faith, but they did not come into existence until about a century or more after the death of Christ.

    3. The Gnostic Gospels present a positive view of the feminine.

    The Gnostic texts are said to picture a human, sexualized Jesus who embraced the sacred feminine. Actually, the Jesus presented in the Gnostic material is often simply weird, and the underlying ideology tends to be radically anti-feminine. Consider this bizarre passage from the Gospel of Thomas: "Simon Peter said to them, ‘Make Mary leave us, for females don’t deserve life.’ Jesus said, ‘Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven.’"

    4. Early Christians did not believe Jesus was God’s Son.

    This claim is rooted in either willful ignorance or blindness to the obvious. After 2,000 years, people continue to debate whether Jesus is the Son of God. But what has never been subject to doubt is that early Christians confessed that Jesus is God’s Son, as the Scriptures indicate: "Simon Peter answered and said, ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God’" (Matt. 16:16); "But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son" (Gal. 4:4).

    5. The Council of Nicea (A.D. 325) invented the divinity of Jesus.

    Contrary to Brown’s claim, that church council met to clarify the divinity of Jesus, not to create it. There are thousands of references to His divinity in Christian literature and archaeology before the Council at Nicea. They include the hundreds of claims in the New Testament and the witness of church leaders through the second and third centuries.

    6. Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

    The novel claims there are "countless references" to their union in ancient history and that the topic "has been explored ad nauseam by modern historians." First, there is nothing in the New Testament or other first-century material about such a marriage. Second, there is no explicit mention of the alleged marriage in the Gnostic material of the second and third centuries. All we have in the Gnostic material is one reference to Mary as the "companion" of Jesus. That word, however, does not usually mean "spouse" or "wife."

    7. Jesus and Mary had a child named Sarah.

    The novel claims Mary was pregnant at the time of the death of Jesus, that her uncle Joseph of Arimathea helped her move to France where she gave birth to a girl she named Sarah. Mary and Sarah found refuge in the Jewish community in France. We are told that "countless scholars of that era chronicled Mary Magdalene’s days in France." This is historical junk first made popular by the 1982 potboiler Holy Blood, Holy Grail. There are no ancient documents supporting these claims, and no scholars of that era chronicled these alleged events.

    8. A secret society named the Priory of Sion started in 1099 and has protected the bones of Mary Magdalene and documents about the bloodline of Jesus Christ.

    This is one of the most significant blunders of The Da Vinci Code. The Priory of Sion was actually started in France on May 7, 1956, by a con artist named Pierre Plantard (1920-2000). The Priory was first a civic organization. In the 1960s Plantard created the mythology of a secret society led by figures such as Isaac Newton and Leonardo da Vinci.

    9. Ancient documents about the Priory were discovered in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris in 1975.

    The Da Vinci Code refers to the alleged parchments as Les Dossiers Secrets. They are not ancient but forgeries done by Philippe de Chérisey (1925-1985), a co-conspirator with Plantard. They were not discovered by the French library in 1975 but were placed there by Plantard in 1967. Both de Chérisey and Plantard admitted the hoax before their deaths. In fact, Plantard was forced to admit his fraud before Judge Thierry Jean-Pierre in a French court case in September 1993.

    10. There are historical lists of the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion.

    When Plantard invented the Priory of Sion, he copied most of his list of Grand Masters from lists of alleged leaders of other groups, such as the Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, a secret society founded in America in 1915. Plantard also changed his list of Grand Masters as he adopted different conspiracy theories about his Priory of Sion.

    11. The Holy Grail is not the cup used at the Last Supper but the bones of Mary Magdalene.

    The novel states that "the quest for the Holy Grail is literally the quest to kneel before the bones of Mary Magdalene … a journey to pray at the feet of the outcast one, the lost sacred feminine." The Holy Grail legends started about A.D. 1180 and continued through the 19th century. They never involved claims about the bones of Mary Magdalene. No Priory of Sion member has given in to the temptation to reveal the supposed location of the bones of Mary.

    12. The Knights Templar guarded the bones of Mary Magdalene and four huge chests of ancient documents about the bloodline of Jesus Christ and the French kings who descended from Him.

    The Knights Templar is a religious military order founded in the early 12th century. Hugues de Payens, a French Knight, led eight comrades in the campaign to protect pilgrims to the Holy Land. It has never been argued in the historical material about the Templars that they protected either Mary Magdalene or documents about French kings. These claims are the inventions of Pierre Plantard, who declared at one point that he was the descendant of Jesus and the proper heir to the French throne.

    13. Leonardo da Vinci was once the Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.

    The Priory started 437 years after the death of the great artist. Not one Leonardo da Vinci specialist in the entire world has supported the view that he once headed a pagan *** cult. James Beck of Columbia University calls this "total nonsense."

    14. Leonardo da Vinci placed Mary Magdalene next to Jesus in his painting The Last Supper.

    In Da Vinci’s time everyone believed that this person was John. Renaissance art specialists have always noted that John was painted in a rather effeminate manner. The painting was not meant to reveal the identity of a woman but the tension among the apostles after Jesus says to them, "‘One of you will betray Me’" (Matt. 26:21).

    15. Early Jewish as well as Christian tradition involved *** ritualism in worship.

    There is no hint in the Old Testament or in Jewish history that *** rites were part of temple worship. Jewish males did not engage in *** with priestesses in the temple. The word "priestess" is not even used in the Old Testament. In the novel, Jesus and Mary Magdalene are pictured as the ideal participants in a *** ritual. This claim has no basis in history, either in terms of early Christian tradition or even in reference to Gnostic documents.
    1. Constatine DID NOT invented the Bible, however, the Bible as we know it is was made during his time. Will the President come up and make laws on traffic? Not so...she would assign people who has a certain vast knowledge on managing traffic. And so is the Bible. He appointed people to compiled which one should be included in the Bible.

    2. Didn't some parts of the Dead Sea Scrolls disappeared before it can be translated?

    3. I wouldn't claim to be expert on deciphering ancient message, but wouldn't that line will also mean that "what made man has the right to enter heaven, Jesus could also do the same to women". We have to understand that during those times, women are regarded lower than men (that state of mind even exist still up to today).

    4. The book of Mark has been proven already to be edited. A letter found in 1954 in a monastery near Jerusalem proved that. That the real Book of Mark should have contained some events between Jesus and Lazarus which no longer exist in the present-day Bible. That before the 2nd century, the Gospel of Mark does not contain Jesus' resurrection and His alledged meeting with the disciples after His crucifixion. And what if...just what if...the people who compiled the bible and edited it in such a way that they want us to believe?

    5. True.

    6. True that there was never a mention of Jesus' marriage or wife in the Bible...nor was there a mention that Jesus is single. This fact, according to Dr. Geza Vermes is "...sufficiently unusual in ancient Jewry to prompt further inquiry". Jesus was a rabbi right? and doesn't the Jewish Mishnaic Law prohibits an unmarried man to become a teacher? And during those tiimes, celibacy is seriously condemned. Furthermore, Jesus never preached celibacy. Why should we surprised if Jesus himself never practiced it? There are certain clues in the bible that Jesus did got married. Remember the time when Jesus made His "first miracle"? it was in a marriage ceremony in which His mother acted out more of a hostess than a guest. Shouldnt the role of a hostess reserved to the family of the couple who is getting married?

    7. "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" primarily by Henry Lincoln never said such rubbish. However, there are documents supporting the "SArah Theory". However, they are varied and can't be confirmed. There are even stories that Sarah was born in Egypt and not France as Dan Brown said she did. There is a mentioned of the Black Girl and a church in France even honors her. Black probably caused by the scorching heat of Egypt.

    8. One of the most controversial documents that was found in a library in France is the Dossiers Secrets. Scholars still argues in its authenticity because they never knew who wrote it. However, it is an ancient documents which, if true, confirms the existence of the Priory since 1099. Along the documents is the family tree of the Merovingian Dynasty who is said to have descended from Jesus. And Leonardo da Vinci's implication as amongst the Headmaster or Navigator is confirmed in the Dossiers Secrets. Plantard has nothing to do with it coz the diocuments is much older than he is.

    9. It is not a hoax and carbon dating did confirmed it. Please, let us not forget the power the Church has over politics. if they could get away with the murders of thousands of pagans, how much more to manipulating just one man.

    10. Not true...the list, after research, would show that the person before and after a certain Grandmaster is connected to one another. Such list is proven to have been made by somebody who has a VERY vast knowldge on history and society if indeed it was a hoax. Not a certain Plantard could have done it himself.

    11. Legends...let us not forget the legends.

    12. And we think people then are stupid. Do you really think they will come forth and say "hey! we are looking for the Holy Grail and the grail documents and we will pretend to guard people who will travel to Jerusalem". Do you think, with less than 20 people, these Templars could guard people who traveled to Jerusalem from Europe? Have you seen Heaven and Earth with Orlando Bloom?

    13. I have discussed this already.

    14. Leonardo da Vinci, amongst the most venerated painters of all time. You think he will make an error to such like making "john's breast"? The Priory is hiding a deep secret and i dont think an average man could just understand it unless you pay attention to details.

    15. I dont remember that either...however, paganism does.


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    dragging man ang movie...

    anyways, its FICTION...not a documentary...
    its the work of imagination...thats all it is...nothing more...

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    This is getting interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wikki
    this is one of the worst movies ive seen in my entire life, usika sa 100, maypa ni tanaw nalang ko posiedon lingaw pa. ka wa gyuy ayu sa pagka himo ani salida.a ang mga taw ray na ilad.
    actually, libog ang story kay mura ra man siya ug summary sa mga facts (kuno)...para duna ka background gamay sa story, watch the "The Origins of the Da Vinci Code"...naa didto gi-explain ang background sa story...


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    I really don't understand why the Catholic church is very "much" against this movie...they should know that the viewers now are very much open-minded...not like so many older folks....hehehe...if the facts presented in this movie are indeed true, so what?? this just goes to show that Jesus is also human - just like everyone else...but this does not take anything away from HIM...

    suspicious ra man gud kaayo kay very defensive kaayo ang Church and at the same time, they still have to account for the years nga nawala si Jesus sa Bible...was it 30-something years?? hmmmmm....

    sa ako ra ni nga opinion ha...

  7. #187

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    @iceinhell...bro direct your posts to those who are "doubting"...kay as i said...ok lang ko..i am more of the same opinion with DigitalDaywalker...i could not care less if Jesus was married or not...for me it does not change in any way his teachings and wisdom...so fan lang jud gihapon ko niya.

    @DigitalDaywalker - 18 lost years bro....from 12 to 30 ata walay records.....naay lain thread discussing that if you are interested.

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    Default Re: 20 big lies in DaVinci Code.

    well you can't help it. some people will take it seriously coz this fictional book is based on a very sensitive topic which is religion.

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    Default Re: 20 big lies in DaVinci Code.

    Quote Originally Posted by wikki
    this is one of the worst movies ive seen in my entire life, usika sa 100, maypa ni tanaw nalang ko posiedon lingaw pa. ka wa gyuy ayu sa pagka himo ani salida.a ang mga taw ray na ilad.
    nah, ni tan-aw ko ug Poseidon wa gyud ko malingaw. kato mo'y kalas sa kwarta!

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    To those of you who have seen the movie, how was Tom Hanks portrayal of Jesus?

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