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    Si LeBron kay teamplayer bitaw na sya, sobra ka team player sige na lag pasa sa 4th quarter when his teammates wanted him to take over the game by scoring. If muitsa pud siya di pud ka shot kay nagtuo man siya nga ang bola mukamang og mahulog ra sa ring nga iya iya ra basta ilabay nya padung didto.

    Simple ra jud kaayo na, bisan gani kita nga magduwa tas daruhan or sa mga barangay complex inig para daug or hapit na daug ato man gani na ihatag sa atong pinaka-maayo nga player nga hingigo og way makakuha, how much more sa NBA level. That is why LeBron James is a FAILURE. Walay ayo basta para daug na, dili masaligan. Okay ra man unta to ba if dili kaayo ni siya i-hype sa media but unsaon ta man nga gitagaan na man og korona daan nga di pa gani angay. Unya ang kugtong nagdako sab ang ulo, feeler na kaayo. Una sab ang hambog, pirme lang una ang self-adulation wa pa gani na hitabo ang angay mahitabo. Nagtuo jud ni siya daan nga mochampion siya ron. LOL
    Last edited by ick; 06-14-2011 at 12:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantehshiznit View Post
    this thread should be close

    its no brainer.

    Truly Great Players Wins Titles. Kobe has 5, Lebron has 0. is he great? he is not, he is just good. is he Elite? certainly not. Until Lebron proves that he is a winner that's the time LBJ Fans pleads his case. This is the third consecutive year he's lost a playoff series in which he had home-court advantage. The greats don't do that.
    I think you're measuring greatness thru the number of championships won.. then if that's the case


    John Stockton, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing and the likes doesn't belong to the NBA's 50 greatest players ...



    lebron is great but not yet an elite...


    elite - are great players who have won championships as a leader... Kobe, MJ, , Shaq, Duncan etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ick View Post
    Si LeBron kay teamplayer bitaw na sya, sobra ka team player sige na lag pasa sa 4th quarter when his teammates wanted him to take over the game by scoring. If muitsa pud siya di pud ka shot kay nagtuo man siya nga ang bola mukamang og mahulog ra sa ring nga iya iya ra basta ilabay nya padung didto.

    Simple ra jud kaayo na, bisan gani kita nga magduwa tas daruhan or sa mga barangay complex inig para daug or hapit na daug ato man gani na ihatag sa atong pinaka-maayo nga player nga hingigo og way makakuha, how much more sa NBA level. That is why LeBron James is a FAILURE. Walay ayo basta para daug na, dili masaligan. Okay ra man unta to ba if dili kaayo ni siya i-hype sa media but unsaon ta man nga gitagaan na man og korona daan nga di pa gani angay. Unya ang kugtong nagdako sab ang ulo, feeler na kaayo. Una sab ang hambog, pirme lang una ang self-adulation wa pa gani na hitabo ang angay mahitabo. Nagtuo jud ni siya daan nga mochampion siya ron. LOL
    agree ani.. ang problem gyud ni lebron kay he doesn't know how to take over the game when its needed.

    mao sakto gyud ang description ni Steve Kerr kang lebron.. as of now.. scottie pippen pa gyud ang skills ni lebron...

    gi over hype lng gyud sa media.

    magkatawa pa gyud ko sa advise ni kerr kang lebron kay practice jumpshooting the whole summer hehehe
    medyo insulto ni para kang lebron pero tinood na.

    mas maasahan pa si Chrsi Bosh ni Lebron sa crunch time. why ? bec. bosh has an excellent mid range jumper.


    on topic :

    i've said this before kobe is still the better player. mas pamugas ang duwa.

    like lebron, kobe is also arrogant back in the day... but his arrogance did really let the critics down, bec. he did work on his game so hard.

    like for example. kobe started his career as an awful defender.. through hard work and perseverance, his defensive skills did improve ..


    while kang lebron ni improve pud iya depensa, for the last 3 seasons na belong siya sa all nba first defensive team. at one point runner up siya sa defensive player of the year..

    lisod napud na na achivement...


    haters and fans of lebron... like it or not.. ang kulang ra gyud lebron kay

    - iya ra gyud tawn jumpshooting, kulang pud siya sa post moves. bati iya footwork kay dali ra masakpan iya moves..

    sa iya offensive skills nag rely siya sa iya speed og power.. di ka kita niya mag pivot pivot hehehe maypa mag pa train siya ni hakeem olajuowon..



    sayang ang skills ni lebron kung dili ma polish
    Last edited by footlose; 06-14-2011 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by footlose View Post
    agree ani.. ang problem gyud ni lebron kay he doesn't know how to take over the game when its needed.

    mao sakto gyud ang description ni Steve Kerr kang lebron.. as of now.. scottie pippen pa gyud ang skills ni lebron...

    gi over hype lng gyud sa media.

    magkatawa pa gyud ko sa advise ni kerr kang lebron kay practice jumpshooting the whole summer hehehe
    medyo insulto ni para kang lebron pero tinood na.

    mas maasahan pa si Chrsi Bosh ni Lebron sa crunch time. why ? bec. bosh has an excellent mid range jumper.
    No consistent jumper, no low post game, offensive moves is limited, clearly no killer "go to" move anywhere on the floor to get a bucket. That is why when an NBA player is asked why Kobe Bryant is so difficult to defend they would always say "because he caughts you off guard, off balanced, off everything when guarding him."

    Kobe has so many moves and can pull the jumper anytime and anywhere on the floor that it's basically a guessing game out there with his defenders. LeBron not so much. Remember, this is LeBron's 8th year in the league and he still has not found that consistent stroke with the jumpshot. Maybe, I should not pass judgment on him yet because it's still too early. He may definitely get that jumpshot perfected. He basically has 8 more years to prove me wrong.

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    ^^^ hehehe mao to summarize bati siya og footwork..

    not being biased here.. but Steve Nash has a better footwork than lebron, mas lisod pud bantayan si Nash tungod sa iya footwork na i outbalance ang iya defender plus his excellent passing pa gyud so mas deadly si nash kaysa kang lebron sa offensive side.

    yep sakto pud dili pud maayo i judge pud siya according sa iya current status..

    but hey Michael Jordan won his first championship at age 28, and now lebron is just 26.. taas taas pa gyud siya og kaunan na bugas.

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    ryt now, kobe is still the reigning king. lebron choked again

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    Quote Originally Posted by footlose View Post
    I think you're measuring greatness thru the number of championships won.. then if that's the case

    ROBERT HORRY!!!! 7× NBA Champion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ick View Post
    No consistent jumper, no low post game, offensive moves is limited, clearly no killer "go to" move anywhere on the floor to get a bucket. That is why when an NBA player is asked why Kobe Bryant is so difficult to defend they would always say "because he caughts you off guard, off balanced, off everything when guarding him."

    Kobe has so many moves and can pull the jumper anytime and anywhere on the floor that it's basically a guessing game out there with his defenders. LeBron not so much. Remember, this is LeBron's 8th year in the league and he still has not found that consistent stroke with the jumpshot. Maybe, I should not pass judgment on him yet because it's still too early. He may definitely get that jumpshot perfected. He basically has 8 more years to prove me wrong.
    This sums it all up. Excellent post.

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    lebron exposed heheheh laina na tanawon lebron d na gud ka diskarte. way footwork way shooting. pero ok lng kay bata pasad.

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    Para nako, si Kobe oiee.... Daghan pa kaayog kaonong bugas si Lebron.... Hahaha

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