A question for Christians (mga unbelievers ayaw sa mo'g ti-ti ha. kauban rata. lol)

[Pein]

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sa mga believers, Christians nalang to be specific kay im sure mao nay uso dri hehehe, ask lang unta ko ba, out of curiosity lang (and boredom hehe):

if you believe in god, then you must also believe in the devil or satan diba? ask lang ta ko ba nga if you really believe that an evil entity exists, for example si satan na inyu gi tawag ug "father of all lies",
what makes you believe without a shadow of doubt that the bible is god's word? shouldn't you even be more skeptical if mu tuo mu nga naay yawa?

think of it this way, what if there were 2 gods, c good god ug si bad god... now what if, what if lang gyud, ang evil god diay nag suwat ug book to deceive people into thinking that he is the good god, or the only god? nya ang katung good god, is just waiting for you to figure it all out for yourself... possible man gyud na nga scenario dba? nag wonder lang gyud ko, why a believer who believes demons exist, would not think to question everything before he believes something is true... dba sakto man sad, if mu tuo mo naay devil, shouldnt you be even more skeptical than the average skeptic? cz who knows, what if the bible was just another way to deceive people dba? how will you know or how can you be so sure, if you do not bother reading it from an outside perspective and question everything written in that book?

general wonderment lang gyud ning ako... aw and ayaw lang sad ko tubaga ug "because the bible tells me so" ha.. hehe honest answer lang ta aku hangyu, based on WHAT YOU THINK jd ba.

so again, the question is, "why do you believe in the bible, and what makes you think its true? (and if pwede, what makes you think that what you think is true?)"

-bawal ang 'because the bible tells me so' nga reason ha. hehe pls do not prove the bible using the bible, because unreasonable jd kaayu na. and last pa jd diay, pls lang do not quote scripture. personal answer lang ako gi pangayo based on WHAT YOU REALLY THINK, not what you have been taught or told to think. fair enough? hehe

aw, if "faith" ra inyung reason pwde e justify unsa jud inyung pasabut sa faith. kanang inyu2 gyd na explanation ha. (likay sa ta sa dictionary f pwede). if mahimo likay nlang gyud ta ani nga answer. kay mo liko naman gud nya kbalo namo, naa jd bya uban mo ti-ti jd ug lalis dri. hehe likay lang ta ani f pwede.

wala ko nangitag sumthing na atung ma lalisan nasad ha, curious lang gyd ko nganu mu tuo mo diritso without questioning anything...while also believing nga naay Satan nga cgeg deceive sa world.

bakit nganu why? hehehe

wa ta kbaw, mao nani ang higayon ninyu nga inyu ko ma convince. bira dayun. ahehehe

walay mangaway ha.. nangutana raba kog tarung. LOL =p

reminder: answers should be about what you think ha. not what youve been taught or told to think. intellectual honesty lang ba.. if wala moy sure nganu, ok rasad na nako na answer. kasabut ra jd ko ana. basta honest answer lang pasar na. hehehe wa ta kbaw ig abut ninyu sa langit, mao ni question usa mo maka sulod ug heaven. haha.

sa mga unbeliever, hilom sa mo ha. haha. lets be civilized animals 4 now. lolz


cge mga believer, go...

samtang ga amatz pako.. HAHA

cge granting demons ang nagsuwat sa Bible, so mutuo diay ka ug evil spirits like demons?

hmmmm....

[hizuka007]

bibleshit mana oi..

moral lesson rman ang tama sa bible

[pinky09]

moral lesson ra d.i?

[tokidoki]

@TS: your first points remind of the formulation of the KAPRE myth. A Kapre was actually propagated by Spanish conquistadors so Filipinos would not harbor black slaves who escaped (thus the standing belief that kapre/agta is black and hides under trees). Same goes anang concept good/bad god.

it could possibly be a smear campaign from one being against another. that brings me to the same connection that we are indeed "made in his own image and likeness". Mahilig ta mamolitika if daghan na. mahilig pud mangdaut para lang ikaw tuhoan nya ang usa madaut.

possibly siguro ang usa ka ginoo naka una nato ug storya mao na wala na chance ang pikas makastorya.

[Banned User]

cge mga believer, go... samtang ga amatz pako..

nahala sakye ninyos iyang pagka totyo nag tama ! man diay ni lol..

[pepau]

para nko, TS ur trying to make God(the good one) and the devil(the bad one) think and act like we do humans... naa part sa matrix sa ending part which struck me, kad2 gning niingon ang oracle sa architect are you going to keep that promise, nya nitubag ang architect nga i am not human(therefore i will). although wala koy proof on how those being would think pero i believe nga they posses knowledge that are beyond our capabilities.

[karwren]

unsa diai meaning anang ga amatz?

....i noticed daghan lagi ug constraints. hehehe. Nanu man? A person's belief and faith is personal. why put constraints on personal beliefs?
Ako, i am experiencing a transformed life because of Jesus' life example and i know HIS will for me on the word of God. Dinhi man ko sa IYA ni grow ug nakaita sa akong gipangita. Ang resulta man sa ako life ug sa life sa uban pa nga mga naniguha gyud sa pagpaka pareha ni Jesus ang mas importante para sa amo. Kung mag-share mi sa kamaayu nga among na experience nga grasya, ok kaayu. Kinsa may dili ganahan ug grasya? Pero kung dili lang pud sila ganahan, pangadyi nako para nila. Maminaw man gyud ang Ginoo.

I pray ma satisfy ang orig. poster sa iya pangutana og sa iya boredom.

[gunbalina]

Sakto ka manawag ta ug tabang pero NASA DIOS ANG AWA NASA TAO ANG GAWA man kuno! In other words, GOD cannot help you if you dont help yourself! Agree?

Will God provide you the job if you don't like to apply and work for a job?

kani naka ingon sad ko nga sakto sad ni kay ikaw man jud ang mag kugi aron makakita ka ug trabaho...

[Traditz]

salamat kayu sa inyung mga answers ha. karun pa gyud ko naka tubag hehe. actually nangutana ko ani because i wanted to give it one last try if maka kita paba gyd ko ug reason na tarung na mkatuo balik aning libroha... paet man gud na usab na ang tagad sa mga taw karun nga dli nako mutuo. dli na gani ko halos tagdon sa balay... hahay.. ginoong dagko, ginoong gagmay.... hehehehe anyweiz, i guess i could say i needed u guys para ma check nko if na consider naba gyud nako tanan... nya turns out na i did.. or id like to think i did cz ni suway man gyud ko... dli man ko ganahn ug blind faith gud. faith is one thing, but lahi nanang blind faith... so mao rana, salamat sa answers ninyu... sad to say nga dli na gyud. point of no return nani ako.a. hehehe for 1 reason ra gyud cguro.. d lang gyud nako kaya mamakak sa akung kaugalingon. the world can never survive if ang taw tangtangan ug pamakak. and mamakak man gyud tanan taw because nature man gyud na nato. it will always be a part of who we are as humans.. none of us can ever live a life without telling a single lie, but if there is one person sa tanan, sa tibuok kalibutan na dli gyud nato angay bakakan is ourselves. para nako there is no greater lie, than to lie to oneself.. and clearly, its something i can never do bsag wala pakoy ginoo... anyweiz, im sure IF naa man jd gani ginoo, he/she/they/it knows where i am... faith is just something i cannot share anymore.. false hope man gud kaayu. with all our faith, all our prayers, we are never really sure if naa ba gyud or wala. i think if naa gyd ginoo nga tarung, fyting against evil to save our souls, and faith ra gyud ang only way to be saved, I think he would AT LEAST try to make sure that each and everyone of us could believe in him, dli cguro necessary magpakita gyud, but at least naa ba run cyay isuwat sa langit nga dako nga "G" ba. hehe because it seems to me this god, the god of the people, is trying his best to hide... or mayb hes fighting for his own existence yet he is powerless to convince everyone that he exists. even the ones who used to believe mawagtangan ra ug faith in the long run as one gains more knowledge and education. i guess god will never reveal himself, cguro without faith, he really is nothing... after all thats said and done, wala lang, i feel free... and i see it now, nga tinuod gyud diay, it was nothing but a delusion, nothing more but a sweet white lie.... nyweiz, taas2 na gyud kog gi yaw2 da.. hehe salamat sa tanan. sa mga believers, ingna inyu god sorry, ni suway gyud ko.. wa ko ka skwela pila ka buwan sa aku search gud, animal. hapit usa ko ka tuig na buang. ahahaha. but it all leads to a dead end...and i know in my heart that this time, i didnt fail... ambut nlang unsay gi suyop atung mga tawhana ga hemo ani, animal gyud nagka gubot na atung kalibutan tungod sa ilang kabuang... haha. unggoy gyud tang tanan... (proven bya gyud, only a fool who knows nothing about the subject of evolution will disagree...tuo lang. d nako makig lalis ani.) regards lang nya ko Jesus ninyu. lolz. ingna sya advance happy bday. haha... chege bye... ayo2 mong tanan. ayaw namo pag away. haha... kaon sa ko. last supper kay ig human e lansang nako sa amung lubi...mao ni kadaot nga pastor atong papa. ilansang sad ko niya ig kbaw nya nga dli na gyud ko..... lolz. hmmm... sound familiar? hahaha

Hopefully magpadayun gihapon ka sa imo search bai...

Murag daghan kaayo ka issues gi-raise about faith. Pero para nimo, unsa ang pinaka-compelling nga rason ngano dili ka mutuo og Ginoo?

[Traditz]

wala na gyud btaw bro. as in patay na akung faith. last kab.ut nlang to ba. atleast dli na gyud ko maka ask ug "what if". but wala na... d na man gyud. knowledge ra gyud btaw maka break sa spell... kbaw na btaw ka naa lang tyms na ma lonely pud ta.. hehe labi na diyosnon au atu pamilya... even if kbaw ko na sakto gyd ko, paet sad jd bya dli na tagdon ba para lang ana... when one finds the truth, kanang bibliya dli nana need basahon ug balik2 cz masabtan naman dayun. the more i read it the more disturbing it gets, because bakak ra gyud tanan...

there are some who think na if dli man gani tinuod, naa ghapon kuno lessons makuha sa bible... cguro it may seem that way, but sayup gyud. it is a sick book nga gi maskara lang ug love2 kunohay... may unta wala nay mubasa anang libroha. mao ranay ga dala ug gubot sa atung kalibutan... because it makes people stupid.. genesis palang daan, "the talking snake theory" lolz...maka buang libroha ui. maka guba ug kinabuhi... hehe losing my faith was the best and most important thing gyud cguro aku nabuhat para sa aku kaugalingon.. i hope sa akung mga post dri maka encourage pud sa uban ug pangita sa tinuod...

mga taw, think for yourself... ayaw namo pa ilad. bakak rana tanan, maka enslave sa huna2. no good can come out of it.

salamat hizuka sa imung pag supporta... tinuod jd btaw, praning gyud mga leaders ron. praning without knowing nga na brainwashed na sila.. and if binuangan sila or sawayon, they actually think nga ok rana bcz the bible teaches them nga mao gyud nay mahetabu... bati jud..

pwede ba kaha pangayuon balik ang kwarta ako nahatag sa simbahan sa. hahaha otot.

Religion is nothing more but false hope.

'Pleasure may come from illusion, but happiness can come only of reality'

Oo, maayo kaayo na bai kanang dili ka mu-undang og seek sa truth og pursue og knowledge og wisdom. Truth really matters in our life. Pero nindut pud nang ato i-measure ato nihibaloan sa knowledge sa ubang tao para maka-siguro ta nga ang ato belief o view point duol2x sa tinuod.

It seems convinced jud ka sa imo atheism bai. Unsa ang nakapa-convince jud nimo nga walay Ginoo?