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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    then show me? because let me remind you sister about this topic.
    people believing that GOD's logic is illogical must show all logic and mathematical equation and formula about everything in this earth/universe.
    People doesn't believed in GOD or the logic of GOD must show mathematical equation and formula about their feelings.

    the moment they can't then that's the time the LOGIC OF GOD comes in which its hard for people who want GOD to appear in their front physically to understand and explain.

    hope you get me.

    PEace!
    Here's a simple way to make it easy for you.

    1+1=2, correct? Or let's just put it this way... 1+1=3, correct? those are basic formula that every scientific community use. Why use complex formula when you can just explain a very easy one? hmmm...

    Let me remind you rcruman, logic is not about getting the difficult things explained but how you get the thought of that logic easy for you to understand. God may have logic and illogic thoughts but I for one don't see that illogic part as complex or complicated because we basically start a single digit. Do you get the logic now, sir rcruman?

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    is this equation can be accepted people like sinyalan, regnauld, mr. brownpose and etc?

    Peace!
    that was supposed to be a joke i guess.

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    that was supposed to be a joke i guess.
    he doesn't understand the meaning of the word "joke" sir. it's not found in the bible.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    he doesn't understand the meaning of the word "joke" sir. it's not found in the bible.
    OT: hahahahah! ka-buang. lol

  5. #185
    rcruman, is it logical not to know the logic and illogic of God?

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    Speaker argues for proof of God

    Tanang Atheists akong nasugatan diri sa Istorya kay wala ani sa brilliant mind ni Jacob Zvi Brudoley!



    Jacob Zvi Brudoley claims science proves God’s existence in his Sunday lecture. Brudoley was invited to speak at the College by Chabad.

    God exists and modern science can prove it, Jacob Zvi Brudoley argued in a speech hosted by Dartmouth’s Chabad on Friday. Even as his thick New York accent and animated mannerisms held the audience’s attention, his controversial statements — such as his claim that anyone who disagrees with him simply cannot handle the truth — often drew incredulous looks from the audience.
    “Really, if you look at modern science, it points to the existence of God,” Brudoley said, “God is demonstrating his existence through science.”
    Brudoley drew an analogy to the science-fiction movie “The Matrix” to illustrate the problem of assuming that the observable world is the entirety of reality. He asked the audience to imagine a character in a video game who knew nothing outside the game. That character would think, “This is the physical world, this is science, this is objective,” he said.
    “How could you prove the existence of a creator in that world?” Brudoley asked the crowd, drawing a parallel to the search for God in today’s world.
    He said that the only way to understand reality is through empiricism, a philosophy that relies only on provable statements. Referencing the philosophy of 16th century French thinker Rene Descartes, Brudoley argued that the existence of one’s mind is the only verifiable fact because it is not subject to skewed perception.
    A materialistic view of the world — a view that does not accept God and instead attributes everything in the universe to the workings of matter— is inherently flawed, he explained, because it does not take into account consciousness or free will.
    “There is no way to explain consciousness scientifically,” Brudoley said. “It is impossible.” Although modern science can show a correlation between thought and brain activity, he added, it has not proven consciousness.
    Brudoley labeled materialism “psychotic” and “Neopagan” and asserted that modern scientists dispute the existence of free will because the concepts of God and morality are too terrifying for them to face.
    “I think there’s a massive, big, big group delusion going on in academia right now,” he said.
    Instead, quantum physics points towards a more coherent view of the universe, Brudoley said. He cited the findings of the Copenhagen Conference, a 1937 meeting of physicists, to argue that all reality is subjective. This interpretation of the Copenhagan Conferences’s findings is very controversial among physicists.
    “There is no objective physical world unless you make an observation,” he said.
    Because a material universe cannot explain subjectivity, and subjectivity is a proven factor in quantum theory, a materialist view of the universe must be incorrect, he said.
    Brudoley also drew on the Big Bang theory and the idea of quantum entanglement to show that every particle of the universe is connected. Quantum entanglement is a property of matter that causes two linked particles to exhibit related behavior regardless of how far they are separated. Since all particles were linked together prior to the Big Bang, Brudoley said, all matter in the universe is entangled. Drawing on this idea, he asserted that all consciousness is therefore interconnected.
    “Everyone in this room has one single common identity,” he said. “There’s only one individual, and that is God.”
    Brudoley, an instructor in the department of psychology at Kansas University Medical Center, came to the College as the speaker for the second annual Dr. Tzvi Yehuda Saks Memorial Lecture on Torah and Science hosted by Chabad.

    BTW mga Atheists, kindly refute this guY using science as your basis!
    Last edited by regnauld; 03-05-2009 at 09:47 PM.

  7. #187
    going back about the logic of god...

    my wife, a woman who can eat anything and is even keen on what she eats.... suddenly, she had gall stones... having gall stones is the exact opposite of her habits. a person who has gall stones usually eats a lot. i mean a lot...

    if he is there, he better explain that... he better explain the logic of that...
    well at least, he help us pay the bills...

    well of course he can't... he died 2009 years ago...

    this is way off course... but i need to air this out...



    my dad... a very loving, responsible father... has a good habit of eating.. watches what he eats and takes walks and works...
    suddenly, he suffered stroke... now he can't speak....
    do you really think he deserves this? do you?

    going back to my question.... if there is a god, what do you think is his logic of what happened to my family? because i'm sure as there is no god, i don't understand it...

    there are other people who deserve these things than my wife and father...

    again, this is way off course... but i need to air this out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    going back about the logic of god...

    my wife, a woman who can eat anything and is even keen on what she eats.... suddenly, she had gall stones... having gall stones is the exact opposite of her habits. a person who has gall stones usually eats a lot. i mean a lot...

    if he is there, he better explain that... he better explain the logic of that...
    well at least, he help us pay the bills...

    well of course he can't... he died 2009 years ago...

    this is way off course... but i need to air this out...

    my dad... a very loving, responsible father... has a good habit of eating.. watches what he eats and takes walks and works...
    suddenly, he suffered stroke... now he can't speak....
    do you really think he deserves this? do you?

    going back to my question.... if there is a god, what do you think is his logic of what happened to my family? because i'm sure as there is no god, i don't understand it...

    there are other people who deserve these things than my wife and father...

    again, this is way off course... but i need to air this out...

    Everything happens for a reason! There is no such thing as accident in this world! We live by natural and spiritual laws of the universe and everything that we do affects the entire cosmos and the consequences could be subtle or direct. No one knows why BAD things happen to GOOD people like you and I would like to think that the UNIVERSE (GOD) has a perfect REASON for it. Otherwise, this universe will SELF DESTRUCT due to imperfection and Entropy. The GOOD thing is that everything is counterbalanced by the Master Architect!

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Everything happens for a reason! There is no such thing as accident in this world! We live by natural and spiritual laws of the universe and everything that we do affects the entire cosmos and the consequences could be subtle or direct. No one knows why BAD things happen to GOOD people like you and I would like to think that the UNIVERSE (GOD) has a perfect REASON for it. Otherwise, this universe will SELF DESTRUCT due to imperfection and Entropy. The GOOD thing is that everything is counterbalanced by the Master Architect!
    who is your MASTER ARCHITECT?
    what's the Characteristics of the Master Architect?

    Peace!

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Everything happens for a reason! There is no such thing as accident in this world! We live by natural and spiritual laws of the universe and everything that we do affects the entire cosmos and the consequences could be subtle or direct. No one knows why BAD things happen to GOOD people like you and I would like to think that the UNIVERSE (GOD) has a perfect REASON for it. Otherwise, this universe will SELF DESTRUCT due to imperfection and Entropy. The GOOD thing is that everything is counterbalanced by the Master Architect!
    counterbalance? did he pay the bills in the hospital? because it's me who are chased by loansharks...
    " Everything happens for a reason! " what reason? ? ? same question... what's the logic on why he made that happen?

    if it was up to my teacher in logic, he'd say "that is illogical"

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