Cebu Velez College student killed in clash between Army and rebels

[Jerry Michael]

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Well said ug Padayon RODION!

Awit ng Petiburges

(Kapayapaan, katarungan ay di, di dapat hadlangan
Pagtutulungan, dito'y magkaisa bawat taumbayan...)

Buhay na nagisnan, puno ng ginhawa
Buhay na kumupkop, hindi yata makakayang iwan
Buhay na kayhirap, bagay na di gagap
Bukas o nakaraan, saan nga ba ang patutunguhan
Naguguluhan pa ako ngayon
Naghihintay na sila doon
Koro:
May panahong magduda at magtanong
Ngayon ay panahon ng pagharap at pagsulong
Pagtatanong ay huwag lubayan
Tunggalian ay walang katapusan
Aking mga mata, malinaw ang nakita
Luha ng kapatid, dusang na di napapatid
Diwa ay natalos, humayo at kumilos
Tawag ng pangangailangan, di na matatalikuran
At ang bisig ko'y handa na ngayon
At makakayang iwan ang noon

Awit ng Peti Burges

[radiostar]

What if she was just passionate and intelligent enough to know what whatever she was doing made her happy and she felt good about it? Ang gagaling ninyong magsalita, about "sayang" and "gi-waste ra nya iyang kaugmaon" but let me ask you this--is it your future in the first place? Go worry about your own little lives. This girl was fighting for something she believed in--something most of you have totally lost or have absolutely no idea what is anymore.

To me the saddest thing in this world we are currently living is, is that young people have suddenly stopped admiring people who fight for what they believe in, and instead, fight for what they can put into their pockets and admire those who have bigger pockets.

I am not talking about what is good or what is right here, about what is "left" or what is "right", or what is just and unjust. I'm talking about PURE PASSION to do what you feel is for the common good and what makes you truly happy. And to me, right until her death, she knew exactly what she got herself into, and died not in vain, but in the knowledge that she struggled fully without thinking of herself and her immediate family. This is one sacrifice that none of you naysayers out there can even dare to come close to doing.

-RODION

very well said sir

[The_Child]

What if she was just passionate and intelligent enough to know what whatever she was doing made her happy and she felt good about it? Ang gagaling ninyong magsalita, about "sayang" and "gi-waste ra nya iyang kaugmaon" but let me ask you this--is it your future in the first place? Go worry about your own little lives. This girl was fighting for something she believed in--something most of you have totally lost or have absolutely no idea what is anymore.

To me the saddest thing in this world we are currently living is, is that young people have suddenly stopped admiring people who fight for what they believe in, and instead, fight for what they can put into their pockets and admire those who have bigger pockets.

I am not talking about what is good or what is right here, about what is "left" or what is "right", or what is just and unjust. I'm talking about PURE PASSION to do what you feel is for the common good and what makes you truly happy. And to me, right until her death, she knew exactly what she got herself into, and died not in vain, but in the knowledge that she struggled fully without thinking of herself and her immediate family. This is one sacrifice that none of you naysayers out there can even dare to come close to doing.

-RODION

yes. indeed sir. but the problem is that we attempt to separate the individual as an existing entity with no relation to the society. If we want to think that the world revolves only around ourselves, that what is important is what i want for myself (this would include my personal passion for my "virtuous" delusion or what) even if it disregards the individual sphere of other human beings which comprises society and as along as it is done with great passion, then we are no different from the fundamentalists and the fanatics.


they possess, a) the passion b) it is not about the right and wrong in context to others but only to myself c) it seems to transcend the political spectrum (which is almost always impossible) d) willing to die for this passionately driven cause of myself, my want, my delusion, without regards to right and wrong, and the others in society.

what does this remind us? how different then could we say is this described situation to those wrapping themselves with C4 running passionately towards the closest American Embassy?

cheers

[rodsky]

what does this remind us? how different then could we say is this described situation to those wrapping themselves with C4 running passionately towards the closest American Embassy?

cheers

We wouldn't be living the world we live in today, if Paul Revere didn't have the passion to ride his horse during his historic "midnight run". We wouldn't be living the world we live in today, if Maximilien Robespierre didn't have the passion to move the French people towards revolution. Heck, you wouldn't even see Cebu as you see it now, if a lowly carpenter who hails from Nazareth didn't have the passion to spread his teachings, of what he believed in, in what he felt ought to have been right, during his oppressive generation of Roman conquest (now...stop and think for a minute...can you imagine Cebu without Christian Churches? Can you imagine Cebu without Catholism or Christianity? What could it be like? And think...think...this is all the doing of ONE passionate person).

During the period when people like Paul and Timothy were roaming around in Greco-Judean world, spreading what they believed in, with passion, the Romans who kept arresting them said "This Christianity you're spreading around will change the world you say? What a delusion." Yet look what has happened to what they thought was a mere "delusion"?

I can cite many more examples but they'll probably be just empty words to the point I'm trying to make, and that point is this--one generation's seemingly bloodthirsty terrorist may be another generation's hero--that man from Nazareth was considered a "terrorist" during his lifetime, and that is why he was punished, he was crucified, a punishment given to criminals--terrorism is a crime (wouldn't you consider someone who preached "a new kingdom will come, and destroy this old one" at the mall as a lunatic and possible terrorist?)

Every one's "world view" of what is right and wrong, is temporary--it is a need that arises because human beings always feel the need for order and civility. But you are mistaken if you feel that your "ideal" or "world order" is permanent. No...your so-called societal norms and morals are fleeting--the universe that we inhabit is a very big place, and we don't even know if we are equipped with the ability and capacity to know everything, yet we constantly try to appease ourselves and delight in the fact that with the knowledge that we have, we seem to be in control, because of all these norms we have put out before us.

Your current definition of societal norms might be acceptable for now, and will be acceptable for some time, but it will eventually be replaced by another, and this new norm will be far less comfy than what you feel ought to be comfy. And hidden within the folds of such dramatic changes, lies the passion and yearning of the individuals who yearn to see that such changes be fulfilled. Such is the nature of nature--the only permanent thing are the fires of change, and passion is what feeds that fire.

-RODION

[Nutley]

maayo ra kaau mo mangistorya diri kay gisuwat ra man na ninyo tanan.kung ikaw pa sa iyang dapit beh imo ba pod tong mabuhat mao na ang pangutana.lahi2x man gud ang opinion sa kada tawo.bisan kinsa nga ginikanan cguro gisayangan sa iyang anak oi....ikaw bai Rodsky kung puhon paabuton,imong anak maingon ato niya, dili ka kayha sayangan? bisan sa akong opinion SAYANG jud ang kinabuhi sa usa ka tawo oi.bisan SAKTO og SAYOP pa iya gibuhat,kay KINABUHI na gi estoryahan SAYANG jud na.mayg lugas pa na sa mais nga inig tanom mutubo ra dayon pila lang ka adlaw.huna2x-a lang sa ninyo pagtaman kung dapat bah e sugal ninyo inyong kinabuhi tungod lang sa GOBERNO nga kurakot.

[rodsky]

maayo ra kaau mo mangistorya diri kay gisuwat ra man na ninyo tanan.kung ikaw pa sa iyang dapit beh imo ba pod tong mabuhat mao na ang pangutana.lahi2x man gud ang opinion sa kada tawo.bisan kinsa nga ginikanan cguro gisayangan sa iyang anak oi....ikaw bai Rodsky kung puhon paabuton,imong anak maingon ato niya, dili ka kayha sayangan? bisan sa akong opinion SAYANG jud ang kinabuhi sa usa ka tawo oi.bisan SAKTO og SAYOP pa iya gibuhat,kay KINABUHI na gi estoryahan SAYANG jud na.mayg lugas pa na sa mais nga inig tanom mutubo ra dayon pila lang ka adlaw.huna2x-a lang sa ninyo pagtaman kung dapat bah e sugal ninyo inyong kinabuhi tungod lang sa GOBERNO nga kurakot.

I've been a member of the League of Filipino Students, the Kabataang Makabayan, and the CEGP before. I have taught the MLMZT to students during my youth. Nagkakat na ko sa bukid ug naggunit na ko sa M16. I've been with the underground movement so I know exactly what I'm talking about. Karon, are you going to call up the police/army/navy/airforce what have you to have me arrested because I'm "a terrorist"? Shakes head.

I've done my share, I've done my time in the struggle. I'm now 36 years old, I'm physically not equipped to fight, plagued with my allergies, my asthma, and an abdominal condition nga wla ko kabalo kung unsa, so I have accept that fact, and live my own life as I see fit. I am ashamed of my present condition--I'd rather still fight for my beliefs but my own choice is my own choice, as I also respect the choices of other people around me...but if there is still one thing I believe in, is passion. If my own daughter wanted to fight for what she believed is right, and was willing to die for it--and she is in good physical health to do all this, I say it right here right now that I will allow her to fight. Enough said.

-RODION

[gerard]

sakto ka bia sayang ang kinabuhi sa usa ka tawo na tarong and we think na pagasa pa nato
na makahatag ug maayong kaugmaun sa atoa,
nya pinaka dako lang rason sa iyang kawala tungod sa personal interest sa pila ra ka tawo
na way laing g huna2 kun deli ang ilang kaugalingon... ka pait noh?.....

[rodsky]

What is trash to one is treasure to another.

What is "sayang" to one person, may not be "sayang" to another.

-RODION

[Nutley]

@Rodsky: makatawa ko nimo bai...kay nakagunit kag M16 nya nikatkatka sa bukid pagkabata nimo,unya nakaapil ka sa mga grupo nga imong gipanghisgutan......unya naay na usab sa Goberno sa inyong gipangbuhat WALA!!! tan awa di bah gihubak na nuon ka sa pagcgeg saka nimo sa bukid.

daghan na kaayong gubot sa kalibutan,bisan asa nga suok sa kalibutan daghan kaaung gubot,nya inyo pa jud pun-an? way jud PEACE kung ang prensipyo ug pride sa usa ninyo dili ninyo matulon.....RODSKY!
REVOLUTION OR WAR is not the ANSWER....mao ra jud na bai.

[PhilCESM]

in fairness, you cant just criticize the extreme left in this nation, the minions of the old man in Utrecht (RA), using the principles of the extreme right (ANAD et. al) because it makes everything more unbelievable than what the left is stating. Leftist Dogmatist v. Rightist Dogmatist equals 'walay padulngan kundi kabuang - samot ta dili moasenso' stating in synonymous terms: we cant counter idiotic principles with an equally idiotic reply, because it makes us all idiots in the end.

Lets not dwell in the extremes. It makes us lose our perspectives, or what is left with it.

Toink...Yap, your are absolutely correct. I got what in your mind and point. And that's one of the thing that I am gonna consider before taking some actions.