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  1. #181

    How To Line Breed
    By: Chris Yew
    Submitted: 9/28/2004


    With careful selection of breeders, top fish like this one can be produced more consistently. (V.Parnell)
    I'm sure most of us have heard of selective breeding or line breeding, but how well do we understand by this terms... My initial thinking is just simply choosing the best male and female fish from a spawn, and breed them (brother x sister) again or breed them with their parents. Until I read the article from Chuck Wolff in Hal's Betta Club Forum, I realised that it's much more to just that.

    To start off with Line Breeding, we must ensure that we must have the time (prepared to spent about 2 to 3 years), space (enough breeding tanks, etc) and of course patience. By Line Breeding, you will appreciate why a new strain or a good fish is never 'cheap'!

    You may use Line Breeding to develop a new strain or improve on an existing strain. The fact about Line Breeding is that it will intensify the good characteristics as well as the bad characteristics. So it is recommended to have at least 3 or 4 closely related lines of whatever strain you are trying to have or improve on.

    Before you start, you have to decide whether you wish to breed for form and finnage first or breed for colour first. Whichever you choose, set yourself a goal and hold on to it rigidly. Sad to say, in order to achieve your goal, you have to cull ruthlessly and dispose of any fry that does not meet your criteria (selective breeding).

    Now you must have at least 2 good male (related like brothers) and 2 good female (related like sisters) bettas to strart with;

    Let's name the bettas as:
    Parents ;
    Male - Y
    Brother to Y - Yb

    Female - X
    Sister to X - Xs



    1st Line;

    Parents : Y x X à F1 (spawn consists of female - F1a and male – F1b)

    Line 1A : Father Y x Daughter F1a à F2 (spawn consists of female - F2a and male - F2c) Father Y x Granddaughter F2a à F3 (spawn consists of female – F3a and male F3c)

    Line 1B : Mother X x Son F1b à F2 (spawn consists of male - F2b and female - F2d)

    Mother X x Grandson F2b à F3 (spawn consists of male – F3b and female – F3d)

    Line 1C : F3c (Male from Line 1A, F3) x F3d (Female from Line 1B, F3) à F4

    Line 1D : F3b (Male from Line 1B, F3) x F3a (Female from Line 1A, F3) à F4



    2nd Line;

    Parents : Yb x Xs à F1 (spawn consists of female - F1e and male – F1f)

    Line 2A : Father Yb x Daughter F1e à F2 (spawn consists of female - F2e and male - F2g)

    Father Yb x Granddaughter F2e à F3 (spawn consists of female – F3e and male – F3g)

    Line 2B : Mother Xs x Son F1f à F2 (spawn consists of male - F2f and female - F2h)

    Mother Xs x Grandson F2f à F3 (spawn consists of male – F3f and female – F3h)

    Line 2C : F3g (Male from Line 2A, F3) x F3h (Female from Line 2B, F3) à F4

    Line 2D : F3f (Male from Line 2B, F3) x F3e (Female from Line 2A, F3) à F4



    3rd Line;

    Before starting your 3rd Line, you have to check your F4 spawns from both Line 1 and Line 2 whether they are achieving your goal. In your F4 spawns, you should see an improvement and uniformity in finnage and form / or colour over your original stock.

    If you are pleased with your F4 spawns, you may proceed on with your 3rd Line by crossing your F4 from Line 1 and Line 2, while keeping your Line 1 and Line 2 going.

    By now you should have achieved quality bettas in your F4 spawns that far surpass your original stock, and these are basically homozygous genetically for the desired traits that you want. Thus Line Breeding will help you to develop your own strain.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by The Good$!!! View Post
    Tawag ko gnha sa nu ky pakuyog ko sa Manalili, review man daw ninyo...

    Bai apil unya sa ato meeting this week...

    E breed sa to nko ang Dragon... Ang anak na ato ako e enter kung ma breed manto nako...
    moa vah bei....ng daphnia shopping fud ko nha.ma 11 na.....dko pwde ds weekends bei..next week na pwde....sayang fud.....wt tym ta bei??next week tato...>>

  3. #183
    kasagaran weekdays man mi mag meeting... Mga 4pm onwards...

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by The Good$!!! View Post
    kasagaran weekdays man mi mag meeting... Mga 4pm onwards...
    aw,,,ok ra bei..wer mu miting??

  5. #185
    mao na si roy dli mu tabang og up..hehehe

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by dyesmil View Post
    mao na si roy dli mu tabang og up..hehehe
    Tabang jud oi... Ako pa...

    Tinabangay jud ta tanan dri...^^

  7. #187
    mga masters, naa ta ko ask ba, unsa diay nka difference sa local og sa dili local nga betta? naglibog gyuud ko kay pareho kaaug porma, color, fins etc pro lahi kaau sa price...naa ko nakit an sa whitegold nga red CT nya tag 76 ra. nya e compare sa katong medyo mahal kay pareho gyud kaaug porma, difference lng gyud sa price. thnx

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuix4 View Post
    mga masters, naa ta ko ask ba, unsa diay nka difference sa local og sa dili local nga betta? naglibog gyuud ko kay pareho kaaug porma, color, fins etc pro lahi kaau sa price...naa ko nakit an sa whitegold nga red CT nya tag 76 ra. nya e compare sa katong medyo mahal kay pareho gyud kaaug porma, difference lng gyud sa price. thnx

    Bai mailhan mana sa symmetry sa finnage like sa CT niay double ray, cross ray, balok etc... Nia gali muabot ug triple ray but wla pa kaau na develop. When you talk about Halfmoons, ang iyang caudal fins ky muabot ang spread ug 180 degrees... Kana nia sa whitegold ky reject na ang colors coz it is what you call "multi-color" meaning dli pantay ang pagka distribute sa iyang colors. Single Ray man to cla which is obsolete na sa CTs... Same pud na cya sa Veiltail (common petshop Betta) nga obsolete na ang finnage and what you consider undesirable.

    Compare and ordinary Veiltail ug ang Halfmoon if mu flare and you would see the extreme difference...

    If sa iro pana cla, ky askal or mutt... Mao presyohan rna cla less than 100php...

    Kani ato g prmote ky from experienced breeders jud ni cla who breed quality Bettas to compete in shows. Some have been in the "art" of Betta breeding for many years and have studied all aspects including, genetics, mutations, line breeding, color inheritance etc...

    Better yet, visit our mother site at index or these sites for more knowledge:

    home back up 101907
    www.bettysplendens.com]
    Welcome to the Official Website of Betta Club Philippines
    AtisonBetta home of show quality bettas, Halfmoon bettas,beautiful betta pictures gallery.
    BluebettaSHOP!, Thailand Show Quality Bettas by Suporn Khumhom
    UltimateBettas (Powered by Invision Power Board)
    KelsonBetta
    www.worldofbettas.com
    Plakat Fighters
    www.plakatthai.com

    Petshops Bettas are NOT THE SAME as the Bettas we are breeding because kana amoa ky selective breeding jud na ug dli pataka lang... Daghan ug details ato tanawn sa show to judge who the winners are...

    Product na cla sa mga breeders who have dedicated a lot of their time and years of perfecting their strains with CAREFUL breeding...

    That is why careful jud mi sa among lines ug dli mi pataka ug release para dli mu deppreciate ang presyo...

    Same concept as breeding Flowerhorns, Lovebirds, Dogs, Kois, etc...

    Niay ordinary Carp, niay Japanese Koi... Niay common Goldfish, niay Ryukin, Orandas, Pearlscales, Lionheads etc... Same concept when you differentiate the "common" from the "quality"...

    Even I could not tell the difference of a simple Carp being sold in Manalili to a Japanese Koi...

    Thanks for the question...^^

    Last edited by The Good$!!!; 10-21-2008 at 05:28 PM.

  9. #189
    correct..nice move the goodz..hehehe

  10. #190
    thanks for the enlightenment master the goods! complete package gyud imo explanation.

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