Yes
No
unya brod if ang scenario ky after the day nga gi rape unya ngpa medico legal, suspected semen are deposited, gi advisan mo take ug emergency contraceptive pill ; duha ka butang ang ato gi tan aw ani its either pugngan ang posible nga panagtagbo sa semilya sa laki ug ang egg sa baye mao na ang proseso sa pag cancel its either patyon ang egg or sperm, ang ika duha if lets says if after 24 hrs nga gi rape succesful ang panagtagbo sa semilya sa laki ug egg sa baye,sa ani nga scenario ang buhaton sa emergency contraceptive pill ky since na succesful ang fertilization e stop ang posible progress, ana nga punto dili pana mahibaw an sa mga doctor nga succesful until 1-2 months, so from the time na succesful ang union sa sperm ug egg accdng sa church it has life na and is considered abortion, without ur knowledge, what if succesful jud ang fertilization and ang imo lng gusto ky e prevent ang suspected pregnancy mao nag take ka "ECP", pero sa siyensya ang abortion ka mahitabo lng if " Abortion takes place after a fertilized egg has attached to the uterus", buot pasabot though na sucessful ang panagtagbo sa egg ug sperm until dili sya mo tapot sa uterus or commonly called as womb dili na abortion accdng sa law...mao rani ako buot pasabot brod..ang ato common understanding sa abortion ky kana from 1-2 months na naporma najud ang bata or naa nata knowledge na buros sya or ang baye...
i say yes to contraceptives and yes to abortion. screw moral values, clearly the present system doesnt work and its making life shit for many people its time to try a system proven to have worked to a good degree from western nations.
not a good idea to legalize abortion! God will ready hate us jud.. huhuhu.. dghan na kaau tag sala.. nganu dungagan pa man jud og grabe ka dakong sala...
Actually, many contraceptives are also abortifacient. Since they do not prevent conception 100% of the time, they have a BACKUP mechanism that prevents the fertilized ovum (already a newly-concieced human being) from implanting. With nowhere to implant, the unborn child is eventually flushed out and destroyed, This is an early-term abortion.
The scientific evidence for abortifacient contraceptives has been posted on Istorya before. You can find it at:
https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...ml#post5106667
Since the RH/Abortion Bill explicitly funds and forces peol,e to distribute these abortifacient contraceptives, it is also an abortion bill.
More news...
Muslims join outrage vs birth control
http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node/13289
MANILA, Sept. 30, 2010—A group of Muslims has joined the growing chorus of voices opposing any effort by President Benigno Aquino III to promote artificial family planning.
In what could be a boost to the Catholic Church’s campaign against contraceptives, the Imam Council of the Philippines said they are against birth control pills and condoms even among married couples.
Ibram Moxir, council head, said the Islam community is one with the Catholic hierarchy in opposing the passage of the Reproductive Health bill which seeks to control the country’s growing birth rate.
“Sa contraceptives, hindi tayo pabor diyan para bawasan ang populasyon ng Pilipinas. Kontra po diyan ang Islam dahil bakit natin i-under estimate ang plano ng Panginoon,” he said over Radyo Veritas.
Moxir also said he is saddened that the government is pushing for the legislation so that at least P100M will be allocated for the purchase of artificial contraceptives.
“Bakit hindi natin ilalaan ang nasabing pondo sa ibang kapaki-pakinabang na paraan? Baka maging immoral na tayo diyan. Bakit tayo mamahagi ng ganyan?” he said.
President Benigno Aquino III earlier said he supports the use of contraceptives among couples because they should be the ones to decide what type of family planning methods they will use.
It is, however, believed that the said statement might lead to the swift passage of the controversial reproductive health (RH) bill in Congress. (CBCPNews)
NO TO ABORTION.
NO TO THE ABORTIFACIENT-PROMOTING RH BILL (HB 96)
Please sign the NEW online petition supporting the pro-life bill by Cong. Golez (HB13)
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Last edited by mannyamador; 10-04-2010 at 07:13 PM.
@mannyamador...
aside from abortifacient contraceptives, can you tell us what other reasons the CBCP has in their stance against the RHB?
I think you're the best person to ask since you're very knowledgeable on the church's stand...
No to abortion.
Yes to birth control without taking a life.
@ mannyamador Actually, many contraceptives are also abortifacient. Since they do not prevent conception 100% of the time, they have a BACKUP mechanism that prevents the fertilized ovum (already a newly-concieced human being) from implanting. With nowhere to implant, the unborn child is eventually flushed out and destroyed, This is an early-term abortion.
>>>you could be referring to the "ECP" which is legal, wherein it prevents implantation of a fertilized ovum and is therefore effective as a contraceptive after sexual intercourse. In the event that the condom breaks, or the couple had an unsafe *** then they can use this method to prevent pregnancy. This is orally taken and must be done within 1 week from ***, if taken immediately the more effective it is, According to the law, If the egg is succesfully fertilized but has not yet attached to the wall of the uterus, terminating it is not abortion., at that point as well the doctors cannot determined if there was a sucessfull fertilization not until the woman is delayed from her normal menstrual cycle., as such she can take the pregnancy test..now going back, if say the couple had an unsafe *** and after knowing it they want to ensure that they wont get pregnant, then therefore the "ECP" is an option for them.., why bec. theyre not ready for the obligation,..for me its not an abortion..we dont even know if fertilization is sucessful or not, though we know that if there was a sucessful fertlization it will stop the fertilized ovum from attaching to the uterus, and if it has not attach yet then it is just a combination of programmed DNA which will go through series of cell division and is not yet an assurance that it can survived the condition inside the uterus
@ mannyamador fertilized ovum (already a newly-concieced human being) from implanting. With nowhere to implant, the unborn child is eventually flushed out
>>>ummm a fertilized ovum is a set of programmed DNA which carries the code or an instruction of what is to be form, its not a baby, a baby has a head, arms, legs brain and a heartbeat..you are saying and making it look horible with the way you define it(ie the unborn child is eventually flushed out )....and the topic question is a bit misleading too
, when the rh bill does not support abortion...
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