MERGED GLORIETTA BOMBING

[slakker]

---

@jheartfred: makes the statement even more credible because government would want the cause of the explosion to be accidental...

[jheartfred]

Dli bya bai, bsag ang UP kay state college na cya pero kasagaran mga reklamador or rallyista against government kay gkan bya UP or UP students.

kasgaran.. but are we sure na kana sila engineers ron kay against? hmmmm have they once ever stood up against the government...

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane

Potential health effects

Methane is not toxic; however, it is highly flammable and may form explosive mixtures with air. Methane is violently reactive with oxidizers, halogens, and some halogen-containing compounds. Methane is also an asphyxiant and may displace oxygen in an enclosed space. Asphyxia may result if the oxygen concentration is reduced to below 19.5% by displacement. The concentrations at which flammable or explosive mixtures form are much lower than the concentration at which asphyxiation risk is significant. When structures are built on or near landfills, methane off-gas can penetrate the buildings' interiors and expose occupants to significant levels of methane. Some buildings have specially engineered recovery systems below their basements to actively capture such fugitive off-gas and vent it away from the building. [br]Posted on: October 24, 2007, 11:13:04 AM_________________________________________________

@jheartfred: makes the statement even more credible because government would want the cause of the explosion to be accidental...

maybe.. and to do that who are they gonna call GHOSTBUSTER...


GHOST - could be admin or opposition

GHOSTBUSTERS - team 1 - NBI, PNP, PNP - SOCO
team 2 - UP Engineers (aron mas credible kay lahi mn daw na entitiy)

[slakker]

another link: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=96398

UP professors dispute methane gas angle in Glorietta blast

By TJ Burgonio
Inquirer
Last updated 06:57am (Mla time) 10/24/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- The damage wrought by the blast at the Glorietta 2 mall on Friday is too huge to be attributed to a methane or diesel explosion, according to two chemical engineering professors of the University of the Philippines.

Professor Ernesto dela Cruz, chair of the UP Department of Chemical Engineering, Tuesday said methane could explode but that it was not likely to cause a tank of diesel to explode.

“It would require some time to heat the diesel up, cause it to vaporize, and explode,” Dela Cruz said Tuesday in an interview.

But then again, he said, “there should be a sufficient amount of [methane to cause the explosion], and then a spark should be present to cause the ignition.”

[jheartfred]

another link: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=96398

UP professors dispute methane gas angle in Glorietta blast

By TJ Burgonio
Inquirer
Last updated 06:57am (Mla time) 10/24/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- The damage wrought by the blast at the Glorietta 2 mall on Friday is too huge to be attributed to a methane or diesel explosion, according to two chemical engineering professors of the University of the Philippines.

Professor Ernesto dela Cruz, chair of the UP Department of Chemical Engineering, Tuesday said methane could explode but that it was not likely to cause a tank of diesel to explode.

“It would require some time to heat the diesel up, cause it to vaporize, and explode,” Dela Cruz said Tuesday in an interview.

But then again, he said, “there should be a sufficient amount of [methane to cause the explosion], and then a spark should be present to cause the ignition.”

now that's what im talking about...

point 1 = methane gas suppression + spark = poof

diesel genset was at the basement + no vent as stated by the investigator...
no vent = no way out methane + diesel genset could ignite a spark when starting it.

calculation:

no vent + genset starting = B O O M?

point 2 = let them eliminate that theory for it might be mere negligence on the CITY Engineers' side..
Negligence = distrust to some other establishments...

distrust = chaos

if ever the cause is not that then lets proceed to bombing...

point 3 = bombing - no sign of fragments (stated by the NBI) = cover up and more distrust to gov't authority...

still the outcome would be the same... deaths

[radiostar]

not all up people are so called "rallyista"... up is still under the goivernment... kung terrorist na threat ngano kato raman? dile man daghan ilang gi bombahan?

[godsaint]

Sen Trillanes accused the govt.of trying to divert the attention of people to the glorietta bombing so that the Malacanang can escape the bigayan accusation of the Governors.Findings of the PNP differs with findings of the bomb experts in UP.NOw the League of Governors admitted that they are responsible for the 500,000 bigayan .Question is...Whos telling the truth?How about the Congressman ?who gave them the money?In the Glorietta bombing..Is it accidental?or made by Demons.?

[jern]

The Glorietta bombing could not be from terrorist act but from faulty engineering set-up of Glorietta's basement. Glorietta management made a public announcement about the probable cause. Of course, di jud cla mo ingon nga faulty enginnering kay probably dili sila mabayran sa insurance. then the "explosion" resulted to several deaths. Glorietta could be blamed for all the liabilities resulting from the damage, the management might be brought to a litigation. Of course, the management and Glorietta are in business and they want to incur less expenses as much as possible.

Probability ra na. Pero based lang sa mga reports sa newspaper, explosion from faulty engineering weighs more kay sa terrorism bombing as the more possible cause.

[giddyboy]

impossible gyud?
So what if they have U.S. and European safety and hazard standards?
Does that provide them IMMUNITY from accidents or guarantee that they are incapable of negligence ?
How do you expalin this ? ( you may aqlso want to read the related headlines )
http://www.newsdaily.com/TopNews/UPI...last-1stld.xml

edit :
every possible angle deserves worth looking into...
let the investigators do their job,
till then, politicians like Trillanes should just shut their mouth.

just my imagination bro, we really cant tell hangtud naa nay facts. if ever man gyud gani accidental. there is another angle that brought to my mind. wat if its done by a professional or professionals? i mean, the blast could make it look like an accident. just like a perfect crime where the murder is made to look like a suicide.

Anybody heard of the "CHAOS THEORY"? watch "chaos" the movie and you'll understand what i mean.

[janhenz]

just my imagination bro, we really cant tell hangtud naa nay facts.

precisely my point - we really can't tell hangtud naa nay facts,
to dismiss one angle as 'impossible' wont help in finding out the truth.

[baron]

I doubt if it's a well done crime. Absent any evidence, how can we prove such?

But as they say, bomb or no bomb, we should all be careful. We don't know if this is done by someone who wants to destabilize the government or just mere accident. The theory of Senator Trillanes, without any sufficient proof, is simply unacceptable. We should know that we cannot just blame the government.