Next U.S. President, Obama or Clinton?

[malakingdude]

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America is ready for both but niether will win. It will be a Republican again and hopefully it will be our Huckababy who takes a stand against abortion because he has proper background. Mc Cain, Clinton and Obama are all pansies with little substance although on the surface it appears they do. Clinton and Obama are far too shallow, support abortions, cloning and embryonic research and illegal immigration as well as McCain.

Hopefully all who ar capable will vote republican and save fetuses (which is a life with a soul) and lives.

Is America ready for a woman president or a black president?

Share your views and predictions...

[LytSlpr]

I follow thew stock market daily.

i was upset at hillary clonton when she cash out all her investments way back in november in 2007
and took a big realized loss than suffer in later months with a a bigger unrealize loss if she had not cash out and keep her money invested in Us companies.
that shows that she is unwilling to ride out the lows in a tought market by taking out her investment which america needed in the time of crisis.

Even if she ran for president, that is entirely a different story. There line between patriotism and heroism is NOT thin. Above all, one should look after his or for this matter, her personal security first.

Or she could always say that she cashed out her investments "for the campaign."

[jiro81]

neither. I dont think America is ready for a Woman and too "liberal" at it, or a black and muslim president. America is too conservative for that.

i dint know Obama is a moslem,.. r u sure?

pls read...

What is Barack Obama's religion?



Somebody said, "What is Obama's religion? Is he Muslim?"

This turned up. It's from a speech he gave in June. [2006] I sure like how he explains things. Tough for anybody to twist the meaning when he makes it as plain as this. He may not make it in American politics. Far, far too candid.

...I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in people's lives -- in the lives of the American people -- and I think it's time that we join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy.

And if we're going to do that then we first need to understand that Americans are a religious people. 90 percent of us believe in God, 70 percent affiliate themselves with an organized religion, 38 percent call themselves committed Christians, and substantially more people in America believe in angels than they do in evolution.

This religious tendency is not simply the result of successful marketing by skilled preachers or the draw of popular mega-churches. In fact, it speaks to a hunger that's deeper than that - a hunger that goes beyond any particular issue or cause.

Each day, it seems, thousands of Americans are going about their daily rounds - dropping off the kids at school, driving to the office, flying to a business meeting, shopping at the mall, trying to stay on their diets - and they're coming to the realization that something is missing. They are deciding that their work, their possessions, their diversions, their sheer busyness, is not enough.

They want a sense of purpose, a narrative arc to their lives. They're looking to relieve a chronic loneliness, a feeling supported by a recent study that shows Americans have fewer close friends and confidants than ever before. And so they need an assurance that somebody out there cares about them, is listening to them - that they are not just destined to travel down that long highway towards nothingness.

And I speak with some experience on this matter. I was not raised in a particularly religious household, as undoubtedly many in the audience were. My father, who returned to Kenya when I was just two, was born Muslim but as an adult became an atheist. My mother, whose parents were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists, was probably one of the most spiritual and kindest people I've ever known, but grew up with a healthy skepticism of organized religion herself. As a consequence, so did I.

It wasn't until after college, when I went to Chicago to work as a community organizer for a group of Christian churches, that I confronted my own spiritual dilemma.

I was working with churches, and the Christians who I worked with recognized themselves in me. They saw that I knew their Book and that I shared their values and sang their songs. But they sensed that a part of me that remained removed, detached, that I was an observer in their midst.

And in time, I came to realize that something was missing as well -- that without a vessel for my beliefs, without a commitment to a particular community of faith, at some level I would always remain apart, and alone.

And if it weren't for the particular attributes of the historically black church, I may have accepted this fate. But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn - not just to work with the church, but to be in the church.

For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change, a power made real by some of the leaders here today. Because of its past, the black church understands in an intimate way the Biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge powers and principalities. And in its historical struggles for freedom and the rights of man, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world. As a source of hope.

And perhaps it was out of this intimate knowledge of hardship -- the grounding of faith in struggle -- that the church offered me a second insight, one that I think is important to emphasize today.

Faith doesn't mean that you don't have doubts.

You need to come to church in the first place precisely because you are first of this world, not apart from it. You need to embrace Christ precisely because you have sins to wash away - because you are human and need an ally in this difficult journey.

It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street in the Southside of Chicago one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and not an epiphany. I didn't fall out in church. The questions I had didn't magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.

That's a path that has been shared by millions upon millions of Americans - evangelicals, Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Muslims alike; some since birth, others at certain turning points in their lives. It is not something they set apart from the rest of their beliefs and values. In fact, it is often what drives their beliefs and their values.

And that is why that, if we truly hope to speak to people where they're at - to communicate our hopes and values in a way that's relevant to their own - then as progressives, we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse.

Because when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations towards one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome - others will fill the vacuum, those with the most insular views of faith, or those who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends.

[LytSlpr]

that's politics talking dude, he IS moslem as far as I & most Americans I know HERE IN CHICAGO knows.

[jiro81]

that's politics talking dude, he IS moslem as far as I & most Americans I know HERE IN CHICAGO knows.

if you care to read the whole artiks above dated back 2006, Im sure average istoryan can do research from here, but for one whose mind is already made up, that would be a waste of time.

im not an american neither Im eligible to vote for a black newbie or a junior ilinois senator but as a discerning voter, I dont see color, *** and religion to dictate my conviction as well as my decison.

[Juan Miguel]

This is very much a possibility. WASP's will never allow this to happen.

Obama will be assassinated if he wins: Nobel winner Lessing
Sat Feb 9, 12:00 PM

STOCKHOLM (AFP) - If Barack Obama becomes the next US president he will surely be assassinated, British Nobel literature laureate Doris Lessing predicted in a newspaper interview published here Saturday.
Obama, who is vying to become the first black president in US history, "would certainly not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would murder him," Lessing, 88, told the Dagens Nyheter daily.
Lessing, who won the 2007 Nobel Literature Prize, said it might be better if Obama's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton were to succeed in her bid to become the first woman president of the United States.
"The best thing would be if they (Clinton and Obama) were to run together. Hillary is a very sharp lady. It might be calmer if she were to win, and not Obama," she said.

[teebee]

I dont care kinsa nilang duha ang mu daug as long as silang duha ang mo lingkod sa trono...

Si Bush kay mas daghang dili ganahan wa man lagi na gi assasinate?

kadtong gipang assasinate naa man to silay mga underground movement like the Kennedys, kanumdom mo?

Marilyn Monroe and the kennedys?

[jiro81]

This is very much a possibility. WASP's will never allow this to happen.

Obama will be assassinated if he wins: Nobel winner Lessing
Sat Feb 9, 12:00 PM

STOCKHOLM (AFP) - If Barack Obama becomes the next US president he will surely be assassinated, British Nobel literature laureate Doris Lessing predicted in a newspaper interview published here Saturday.
Obama, who is vying to become the first black president in US history, "would certainly not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would murder him," Lessing, 88, told the Dagens Nyheter daily.
Lessing, who won the 2007 Nobel Literature Prize, said it might be better if Obama's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton were to succeed in her bid to become the first woman president of the United States.
"The best thing would be if they (Clinton and Obama) were to run together. Hillary is a very sharp lady. It might be calmer if she were to win, and not Obama," she said.

Excuse me! We dont need your prediction. I dont find your Prize made you credible enough for me to believe your old-fashioned comment hiding inside the closet of racism. Peace!

[koontz_circle]

Mccain

[boo151]

Obama will be assassinated if he wins: Nobel winner Lessing
Sat Feb 9, 12:00 PM

STOCKHOLM (AFP) - If Barack Obama becomes the next US president he will surely be assassinated, British Nobel literature laureate Doris Lessing predicted in a newspaper interview published here Saturday.
Obama, who is vying to become the first black president in US history, "would certainly not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would murder him," Lessing, 88, told the Dagens Nyheter daily.
Lessing, who won the 2007 Nobel Literature Prize, said it might be better if Obama's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton were to succeed in her bid to become the first woman president of the United States.
"The best thing would be if they (Clinton and Obama) were to run together. Hillary is a very sharp lady. It might be calmer if she were to win, and not Obama," she said.

amen... there are a lot of white supremacists who do not wish to be known, but the fact of the matter is, they control the United States. Obama is a good man, but a Black president is not what US needs, eventhough his platform are overwhelming.

If Obama and Clinton do decide to run together, THEY ARE THE DREAM TICKET. =)


Update:

Clinton - 1083
Obama - 1006 (and rising, for winning the three states caucuses)

I'm a Clinton supporter, this is a sad night for the former Mrs. President, but I wouldn't be surprised if she SUDDENLY wins. =)