What's the Most Dangerous Martial Arts?

[Kamikaze]

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Apart from this, a viewer would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a kendo and a kumdo practitioner.

----Thats exaclty the point , for those who are not familiar, They wont know., but those who are well versed on Japanese Art its totaly different.
Its just surperficial to say such.
And there you have said it, kendo and kumdo practitioner. For example Kenjutsu and Kendo are both Japanese sword art, are they the same? for art, i never heared that kenjutsu and kendo are the same. Similar? yes, Same- No!

since both Martial Arts are dealing with wooden swords... The Kendo bamboo sword, known as, "Shinai," in Japanese and "Juk Do," in Korean, is a key element of partner practice in Kumdo. The wooden sword, "Bokken," in Japanese and "Mok Kum" in Korean, is also a common training tool.

well its wrong to say just because they use shinai and bokken it quailifies it to be Kendo. bokken is not even a accurate word for it . bokken means wooden sword, whether its its a Chinese, Korean, Filipino wooden sword, it can be called bokken. Japanese wooden sword is called Bokuto.

nationwide revisionist stance, Koreans wholesale refuse to admit the sport's origins, and instead call it "kumdo," insisting that it originated in Korea.

---- because there were changes during the past years. Its has been change to a Korean version.

----In regards to a the attrocities comitted by the Japanese,its true , have you read the the rape of Nanking?. I have a Korean friend who talk to me about that. he practice Aikkai Aikido here in Cebu.

----But to say Kumdo and Kendo is same, thats not true. Well some folks would say just because they look similar

---- Just curios have you study Kendo or Kumdo?

----Check this out History of Kumdo.

A Brief History of Kumdo

A direct translation of "Kumdo" is "the way of the sword." The art of the sword in Korea evolved from a martial art heritage reaching back more than three thousand years to the time of the Bronze Age. Archeological records indicate that the sword and its art were a part of daily life in Korean antiquity to defend territorial hold extending from Manchuria to Korean peninsula and early settlements in the Japanese main island.

http://www.kumdo.com/2003/kumdo/history.html

[patrixxx73]

For example Kenjutsu and Kendo are both Japanese sword art, are they the same? for 13 years of training in kenjutsu and meeting different people in the sword art, i never heared that kenjutsu and kendo are the same. Similar? yes, Same- No!

Yes, Isn’t it obvious that both Japanese martial arts are not the same?
But if you compare Kendo from Kumdo, which both weilds wooden swords…
What’s the difference? Maybe in technicalities, but literally? I don’t think so…

"Kumdo," literally means, "Sword Way." Kumdo is a Korean translation of the Japanese term, "Kendo." "Ken" meaning, "Sword," and, "Do" meaning, "Way."

Perhaps you’re right that they differ in their ideologies and applications since the Koreans modified the art, but then again…
Both Kendo and Kumdo literary means “The way of the sword” as stated above…
and if you translate both Korean and Japanese characters into Chinese they will have the same meaning...

Please click the links provided below:

http://www.geocities.com/kumdo_history/

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-A...3/english.html

Anyway, there’s no point debating here whether Kumdo and Kendo are different, similar, same or whatever,
since the important thing here is sharing and exchange of ideas and information…

Thanks for sharing your views Kamikaze...

"Kamsa Hamnida / Domo Arigato Gozaimasu!"

[Kamikaze]

My father first taught me Shorin Ryu Okinawan Karate, i wasn't satisfied with it's principles so as i grew older i ventured into different styles from Combat Judo (Durex Club) Jeet Kune Do (Leonardo Villagonzalo III) Arashi Ryu Kempo (Wouter Bauwens) and Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu (Sensei Dhong Reynaldo of Comjukai Aikijujutsu) Among the different disciplines i've learned, my favorites are:
Jeet Kune Do - adaptive to any style; intercepts attacks
Kempo - lightning fast combinations of fists, elbows, knees and kicks
and Aikijujutsu - grappling, throwing , snatching and bone-breaking techniques

Kamsa Hamnida desu ka? i thought you forgot the name of the Korean instructor at Doce Pares in Banilad.

Kamnsa-san you must have stayed here in Cebu City for some time to learned those things above. Really?

[patrixxx73]

Kamsa Hamnida desu ka? i thought you forgot the name of the Korean instructor at Doce Pares in Banilad.

Kamnsa-san you must have stayed here in Cebu City for some time to learned those things above. Really?

I think you're confused my friend, my name is not Kamsa Hamnida...

Kamsa Hamnida means "Thank You" in Korean Language...

Yes, I've stayed here in Cebu City for quite some time because i was born and i grew up here...

I'm just curious? Are you a Japanese national?

[Kamikaze]

ah i see,oh am so SORRY!, i cant comprehend Korean language. I thought your name is mr. Hanmida my apologies again.

No am not a Japanese either .

Just curios, do you have some experience on Japanese or Korean sword arts? Do you practice?

please tell me about your training and expertise about Japanese sword art or Korean sword. or you just do reading about those arts?

[Kamikaze]

well its a worthy debate about Kumdo and Kendo.

since its not a good thing thing to tell people things which they are not.
you really sound like an expert on JSA, do you read books about it?

[Kamikaze]

My Sword dojo is wide open for you to drop by and kindly demonstrate Kendo or Kumdo.

[patrixxx73]

Just curios, do you have some experience on Japanese or Korean sword arts? Do you practice?
please tell me about your training and expertise about Japanese sword art or Korean sword. or you just do reading about those arts?

It's a part of Aikijujutsu training… I have little background on this (but not as extensive as you have...)
The little knowledge i'm sharing here is something that i have absorbed from my instructors, friends and various informative literatures...

I'm not an expert either of the Japanese sword art... But I have a passion of absorbing and learning from the different forms of Martial Arts.

well its a worthy debate about Kumdo and Kendo.

If you want to debate on this matter… we can do it on other site but not here in istorya.net because this is not a debate board. This is a discussion board. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth.

since its not a good thing thing to tell people things which they are not.

Yes, I agree with you on that matter- and I’m not telling people things which they are not from myself, I was just sharing the information from what I have learned!

you really sound like an expert on JSA, do you read books about it?

Like what I have said earlier, I just absorbed my “little knowledge” from my mentors and various informative sources… and I’m not an expert on Japanese Sword Arts (like you).

My Sword dojo is wide open for you to drop by and kindly demonstrate Kendo or Kumdo.

No need to demonstrate Kendo or Kumdo Kamikaze…
Like what I’ve said, I’m not an expert like you… Perhaps you could teach me your art of Kenjutsu instead?
I'd be very much interested on that!

[Kamikaze]

okay!

good day

[patrixxx73]

okay!

good day

"Yoi Ichinichi O Tomadachi!"

"Domo Arigato Gozaimasu, Kamikaze-San!"