Naa bay right magpa-abort ang RAPE VICTIM?

[kimleeKINO_choi]

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the fact lang na rape ka is a very traumatic experience, how much more nabuntis pa jud ka sa nag rape nimo? for me lang, mas okay if ipa adopt na lang niya ang baby pero dili sad nato masisi ang victim if magpa abort siya, imagine unsaon nimo pagcope sa nahitabo nimo if for 9 months naay baby na maka remind nimo about you being raped.

Some other people would say, madawat ra madugai kai anghel man jpon na, pero mao lgi demonyo mn ang father sa baby. Pero adoption isn't a bad idea either.

OT: Nichkhun of 2PM ang Ava then pang SuJu ang username..hehe Just saying

[emow]

Before we can uphold any other rights, the right to life must first be observed, otherwise, the meaning of a right will lose its importance. The rape victim can abort the child, but not without committing a violation to the life of her child.

[noy]

exactly, but saying that she'll be wrong if iyang ipakuha is an evasive kind of advice.. it's better if we'll just let her weigh the options herself,.

“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

agree on giving the victim the last say, example ani bai, naay moduol nimu muingun nga gi rape siya
unya nabuntis siya, knowing nga ang Bata walay sala. what would you say to the Victim?
can a crime be justified by another crime? unless one doesn't see abortion as killing then way problema.

karun ang pangutana ani, mahimu bang 1 peso kung wala 1 centavo?
mahimu bang tao kung wala ang gitawag nato ug "dugo pa"?

i am not saying that this is what should be done in case mao na imu perception about my statements.
my focus is on the argument bai if whether it is morally right to abort a child nga nahimugso after sa Rape.
not to condemn rape victims who went through abortion( no one ever has the right to do such thing).

it is totally understandable jud kung di kaya sa mama mupadako sa bata, there's always adoption, orphanage, church...
nganu ipa abort man jud diba?

[noy]

question of religion is not a question of morality

murag wa man ta nagkasinabut sa atong buot ipa ibut brad...Lol

ani ni ha, you said when a rape victim decides to go through abortion is morally right according to Theology.
i asked what theology were you referring to?
you said according sa inyo Reed40 so sa USC, therefore Catholic Theology on morality imu pasabut...
so akong reply, that cannot be approved by the Catholic Theology kay even sa RH bill ni against ang Church, abortion pa kaha?
i even qouted a line about the catechism of the catholic church about abortion..
then ni ingun ka nga according sa isa ka Pari when you guys discussed about morality sa inyong Reed as per Catholic theology
so ning ingun ko, nothing is wrong if the priest expressed an opinion
BUT to say that the Church APPROVED of it, it is a different story..

Point is, when you said that the Catholic Theology on morality APPROVED abortion for rape victims is ok
mao na akong Gi dispute because naa jud na sa CCC ug unsay stand mismo sa CHURCH ana

ang pari pwede siya mu GO because a priest also has his own POV

BUT to say that the CHURCH approves of it 'cause a certain priest/theologioan on morality says so...
well you need to check what the Catholic Church's official stand on abortion.

and if you can find an article in the catechism of the catholic church that would say
it is morally right to abort a child conceived after a Rape incident mas maayo para klaro...

suma gud, sa Katoliko, ang sakramento sa kaminyoon(marriage) kinahanglan usa mag-ipon ang babaw ug lalki isip mag asawa
kung naay pari nga muingun , sus ok na nang way kasal-kasal oi...
well iyaha nang opinion,respetohon nato na, pero maka ingun ba ka nga mao nay official stand sa church? kay abi pari ang nag-ingun?

same ra na sa abortion, mao ni dispute ko when you said that the Catholic theology on mrality approves of it.

[noy]

for me, without consideration of religious stuff,
by following human natural laws lang, I agree kng mag pa-abort ang rape victim.
1) however religious people says it, but a fetus is not a human yet, Kamu kahinumdom mo na time na fetus mo?

we don't even have a recollection about the things that happend until we were 2 years old
ug dili pa gani ta kahinumdum tanan, in fact gamay ra atong nahinumduman..pero tao na ko ato if we were to based our humanity on when we were able to remember things..hehehe
kung dili tao ang fetus so ang 1 centavo dili kwarta? remember way piso kung way 1 centavo.

2) It is hard for the victim to move on when she can "souvenir" for her agony over and over again, forever.. The agony drags forever for her. How can she move on?

totally understandble,but is abortion the only option? how about adoption?

3)The child is unplanned, which means maglisud ang inahan magpadaku ana, the cost specially on the schooling, will greatly affect the victim. She will virtually be "victimized" again.?

how about unplanned babies like sa kanang mga bata nga nag0uyab2x unya nasipyat? abort pud?
speaking of victimized, how about the unborn child? so a victim can victimize another and gets away with it?
of course, the victim already endured too much to raise the child as her own, but abortion is a little extreme really...
again naay adoption.

4) Emotional consequences..

how about abortion knowing that walay sala ang bata? wala nay emotional consequence?

Practically, as a human being, I Do agree with abortion if rape victim.

practicality doesn't make us human beings, it's morality that does.

[Mr.Simple]

Some other people would say, madawat ra madugai kai anghel man jpon na, pero mao lgi demonyo mn ang father sa baby. Pero adoption isn't a bad idea either.

OT: Nichkhun of 2PM ang Ava then pang SuJu ang username..hehe Just saying

ikaw na ang kpop fan..haha

[jessieventura]

watta question!. no one has the right to commit abortion!...

bisan pag gi rape,nang rape o nagpa rape, wala intawon na silay karapatan mupatay og bata!...

easy to say. what if ikaw ang narape?
unya bati kaayog nawong ang garape nimo.
what if maliwat ang imong anak sa garape?

do you think the kid has a good future
when you are there to hate him all his growing years for being the son of your rapist?

procreation is an act of love.
if you have been rape, there is no love there.
i wont judge the girl. if she want the baby aborted, its up to her. no law should tell her otherwise.
Siya baya ang magbuntis ug mag agwanta og dala sa bata for 9 months and risk her life in giving birth.

[noy]

it would be very understandable for the victim to not want to raise the child
that's why there is adoption, and why institutions such as the orphanage and the like exists..
why settle with abortion? Rape is already a grave violation of humanity how much more if we place abortion in the mix

the kid may inherit the physical features of the rapist but it doesnt change the fact that the kid has nothing to do with
his/her fathers sinfulness..

Rape + abortion = OMG

we often ask people who oppose abortion for rape victims, what if you're the victim?
how about we ask those who are in favor of abortion. what if you were the fetus?

imagine all the things that made your lives worth living and the times you were able to bless others would dissapear, as you were never to exist.
in other words aborted.

this is not to decide on another person's behalf as we don't have the slightest right to do so
the focus of this argument to weigh whether abortion for rape victims is morally right or wrong.

[SioDenz]

easy to say. what if ikaw ang narape?
unya bati kaayog nawong ang garape nimo.
what if maliwat ang imong anak sa garape?

do you think the kid has a good future
when you are there to hate him all his growing years for being the son of your rapist?

procreation is an act of love.
if you have been rape, there is no love there.
i wont judge the girl. if she want the baby aborted, its up to her. no law should tell her otherwise.
Siya baya ang magbuntis ug mag agwanta og dala sa bata for 9 months and risk her life in giving birth.

You dont have the Power to see their future - only their Creator has the Right to decide for their future. How will you know the future of a child if you're going to kill him before he is born?

Im quite surprise with your answer considering you started a program to help kids that dont have opportunity, Helping kids that have slim chance of success and give them HOPE that someday they will succeed. Ironic

[bittoh]

wala. pwede ra man ipa adopt ang baby inig ka gawas, kana kung wala juy amor ang inahan....