Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

[BoyMonsteR]

The purpose of upgrading the airforce is not just to defeat the rebels, if we have new planes or helicopters, like C-130 or Chinook, transporting relief goods will be easier, If we have SU 25, Harrier or the Predator Drone we can patrol our boundaries, especially the Spratlys..

Generals and Air Force personel is talking here, politicians are not allowed..

[omad]

Honestly, when I joined the thread, I just wanted to casually thrown in what I know about military and naval aviation, being an avid enthusiast, regardless of whether it will change the system, change the Philippine airforce, change the world, or change a baby's diapers. If some of the information I shared entertained or enlightened, then that makes me happy, and if some deem it as some Octopus-ink that clouds or muddles the grim reality of the situation, then I apologize.

Bottom line is, I am just a person who passes along information.

-RODION

information is what this discussion is all about.

why don't we all start putting the price tags on all these babies...

[cottonmouth]

Makes you ponder a lot eh?

Where did all that money go? Why did the rebels, who spent a teensy-weensy fraction of the amount spent by the government, still around?

-RODION

Brod, It is called Asymmetric warfare. It is a war between two belligerents whose relative military power differs significantly. The great generals from Napoleon to Rommel became succesful because of this tactic but eventualy fell victim to it.

Not everytime the big armies will win every battle. But it is always that the bigger army will win the war.

[BoyMonsteR]

that's the point. before we discuss planes and helicopters and all other upgrades... we should ask basic questions...

do we have money to buy all those high ticket items?

to put the thread title in perspective: "Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world"


simple... we don't have budget for it right now. it's not the priority.

same reason why I asked all those who posted helos, planes, frigates etc etc to post corresponding price tags for each including maintenance/training expenses so everyone would know how CHEAP all these toys are...

Oh come on.. i joined this thread so i could share my little knowledge about planes and copters, and i know philippines cant buy this things, we are just sharing and suggesting, we are not asking the goverment to buy all these tech.

You can start your own thread about How to Modernize the Philippine Air Force or How can we buy a AC-130 Gunship.

[JX]

PAF's motto: "Do more with Less".. clearly they know that they have less..

[BoyMonsteR]

Honestly, when I joined the thread, I just wanted to casually thrown in what I know about military and naval aviation, being an avid enthusiast, regardless of whether it will change the system, change the Philippine airforce, change the world, or change a baby's diapers. If some of the information I shared entertained or enlightened some people here, then that makes me happy, and if some deem it as some Octopus-ink that clouds or muddles the grim reality of the situation, then I apologize.

Bottom line is, I am just a person who passes along information, and one who delights in making my own quirky assessment of situations.

-RODION

AMEN to you..

[rodsky]

information is what this discussion is all about.

why don't we all start putting the price tags on all these babies...

AC-130H: US$132.4 million

The prices of both the F-16C and Gripen have already been posted I think (18 and 40 million ea, respectively), so that leave the others to put in the price tag of their suggestions.

*clears voice and in his best Texan accent...*

"Step right up, Step right up...now y'all list dahn yer suggeeestehd eigh-row-planes and weee'l git them tallied up right heer on this board right here now, com on now..."

-RODION

[flanker]

kinsa kahibaw unsa gud ang naa sa atong air force?

Aermacchi S-211 ground support and jet training - 4 active

OV-10 attack aircraft - 12-14 active

MD-520MG Defender attack helicopter - 17 active

C130 Heavy Tranport Aircraft - 1 active

Huey Transport Helicopter - 48 Active

[BoyMonsteR]

A-10 Warthog - Unit cost US$11.7 million (average)

SU - 27 Flanker - Unit cost US$35 million

Apache Longbow - Unit cost US$18 million

To follow na ang operation cost..

Guys, post the prices after suggest, dont forget to include operation cost..

[mitch_anne]

take a look sa na happen sa Russia maka ulaw lang ato mfa officials then mo try pa ug defend ilaha self bu obvious naman kaayo oi .hehehe