Legalize Abortion?

[Detective Mask]

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I think abortion should be allowed only in medical emergencies, when the mother's life is at risk. Apart from that, I would have to say no to abortion.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

hahaha! the legality of abortion has no bearing on the youth's propensity to fornicate/copulate! the youth are hot blooded and want to experience new things!

i totally agree...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

NO..

mahimo rana nga lusot to cover illegal activities...

plus.. abnormal fetus. unwanted babies... are still human beings..

kung ikaw natawo nga hiwi ug nawung..dili nlng ka buhion sa imoa mama kay di ma ka gwapo?

unsa ka ginoo mamili kinsa pwde sa society...
superhumans nata ata...



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i think there is a process na pwede mahibaw-an if naa ba congenital defects or abnormality ang bata even though naa pa sa womb... like if naa ba siya down syndrome or other genetically related defects...

anyway in those cases it should be up to the father and mother to decide whether to abort the baby or not....

i mean if it was known that the baby could have a serious birth defect and both parent dont have financial cap to actually save the baby after birth for the med and operations they must make a choice...


as for making it as lusot... well if the reason is rape then there should be medical record showing that the person was forced to have intercourse with another...

without any proofs then abortion should not be allowed...

[nsvc902]

NO..

mahimo rana nga lusot to cover illegal activities...

plus.. abnormal fetus. unwanted babies... are still human beings..

kung ikaw natawo nga hiwi ug nawung..dili nlng ka buhion sa imoa mama kay di ma ka gwapo?

unsa ka ginoo mamili kinsa pwde sa society...
superhumans nata ata...



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Mas maayo unta mahimo ka ug babae nga manganak ug during sa ultra-sound pa lang ang imong anak walay kamot ug walay tiil ug hiwi pa gyud ang nawong. Tan-awon nato kung dili ba ka maglisud sa tibuok nimong kinabuhi.

Mas maayo unta mahimo ka ug babae nga manganak after gi-rape ka sa pinakabati nga tao imong nakita. Tan-awon nato kung ganahan baka buhion ang inyong anak-anak. Tan-awon nato kung dili ba ka maglisud sa tibuok nimong kinabuhi nga makahuna-huna sa dautang kaagi nga imong naagian.

Praktikal ang akong gi-suggest para sa mga babae nga dili sila maglisud sa ilang kinabuhi.

[iryn]

On paper, the sentence is imprisonment, up to six years. In the dank back rooms of Manila slums, and in the emergency wards of public hospitals, the sentence can be death. In 2008, at least 500,000 women resorted to abortion. 90,000 suffered complication. A thousand died.

The criminal was a woman. They are always women.

In the Republic of the Philippines abortion is illegal. There are no exceptions under the law. It does not matter if the woman’s life is at stake on an operating table in the Fabella Hospital. It does not matter if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest, if the expectant mother is a nine-year-old girl in the slums of Tondo, if the fetus is expected to die within the womb and the woman with it.

That the penalty of abortion is often death is not a secret from these women. They know this. They’ve seen it happen. Women who risk death are not concerned with the legality of their actions, they are willing to push the twisted end of a plastic hanger into their uteruses; they believe they have no other choice. They may be afraid of God or death or the arm of the law, but they will carry on. The criminal penalty meant to stop abortion has not stopped millions of women; it has only stopped them from seeking help when they are bleeding into the cheap wood floors of their makeshift homes. Criminalization has pushed them into the streets of Quiapo, outside the Church of the Black Nazarene, where the voices of priests echo in prayer and tablets of Cytotec are sold six for a thousand alongside plaster statues of the Virgin Mary.

Her name is Maricel, she was eighteen and already a mother. That year she was granted a visa to work as a domestic worker overseas. She discovered she was pregnant and induced her own abortion for fear of losing her chance to support her family. It took two weeks of infection and vaginal bleeding for Maricel to decide to go to the hospital. Her story ended on the operating table. The doctors said she died of septic shock.

The Republic of the Philippines is one of the last countries in the world that continue to call every instance of termination of pregnancy a criminal act, and because it is, every woman who commits abortion commits it on her own. The Philippines has one of the highest numbers of maternal deaths in the West Pacific Region, 230 dying out of 100,000 live births, as opposed to the regional average of 82. Unsafe abortion is responsible for up to twenty percent of these deaths.

Her name is Josie, twenty-six. She went to an abortionist, who pressed down on her abdomen and thrust a fat hose up her vagina. She was in the clinic a long time. She bled. Some of the blood stank. There was blood on the bedpan, on the sheets, gushing in chunks. The blood was very red. At home, she bled for more than a week. In chunks, in gushes. She thought she would die.

Those who condemn these women point to the woman’s culpability. Whores and sluts, murderers, should have kept their legs closed if they didn’t want a child. Should have abstained. Should have been good, responsible women, should be good mothers, should take responsibility. That most of these criminal women are Catholic, married, uneducated and desperately poor does not matter to many of their critics from Church and laity. Opponents of the Reproductive Health Bill say they oppose the provision of free contraception because to permit it may lead to permitting abortion.

This is Ana, from Manila, a mother of eight, who induced an abortion after her ninth child. She said she could not use family planning, because it was unavailable. A Guttmacher study says that in Manila, where an executive order was issued banning contraception in public health centers, the incidence of abortion is higher than in any other part of the country.

This is Aileen, a mother of five, three of whom were still babies. She risked an unsafe abortion when she found out she was pregnant with her sixth.

“Only those who are better off, rich, can talk about abortion as illegal. They have no worries about raising their children... They do not know what it is like to be poor and desperate… Poor women have limited options… Everything I did was for my living children.”

This is the sort of woman they call a bad mother, a criminal who deserves to bleed to death in the corners of hospital rooms. The stigma on abortion coming from its criminalization means that when a woman who suffers after an unsafe abortion finds the courage to go to a hospital, medical personnel believe they have the right to discriminate. There is no such thing as patient confidentiality; there is no such thing as priority for those who are dying in gushes. The Jason Ivlers of the world can get their confidentiality and medical care after a shootout with the police, but in this country, the woman who aborted is the exception to the Hippocratic oath.

This is Imelda, thirty years old. She was bleeding when she arrived in the Fabella Hospital. The doctors shouted at her. They said they would call the police. They said they would not allow her to leave the hospital if they discovered she had an abortion. She was allowed to bleed without care for four hours, and was interrogated by nine different health workers while she bled.

This is Lisa, and in Gat Andres Bonifacio Memorial Medical Center, they told her she would be arrested if they proved she had aborted. They made her sign a document in English, a language she could not understand on paper. A nurse put a notebook-sized sign at the bottom of her bed with the word “abortion.” There was no chart with her name, only that one word.

Her name was Gina, and when the staff of Tondo General discovered she had aborted, she was left alone. Her back was soaked in blood. She wished someone would give her a napkin, a diaper, anything. Nobody did.

This is written in support of the decriminalization of abortion, in the hope that safe abortion will be offered for women in cases of rape and incest and risk to life, that women will no longer be ignored in emergency rooms because of who they are, that contraception will be provided so that no woman will be forced to see abortion as a choice, and that the thousands who choose the risk of back alleys and coat hangers will be called victims instead of criminals.

Call it by its name: abortion. One thousand women died bleeding in 2008, nobody was held accountable, because for some, these women deserved to die. The state holds them down; the Church watches them bleed. The criminals are not always women. The crimes are not always theirs.

They pray, these women. They believe in God, and some of them believe that God is forgiving, that God would understand. They are afraid to say their names, because they do not have the same faith in their fellow men as they do in God.

repost from Patricia Evangelista

-interesting opinion article about abortion

[darsmith13]

yes, pabor ko... unsaon nalang tong mga unwanted babies dba?

mas luoy kung buhion nimo sila pero dili ra diay nimo panggaon...

pareha atong sa pikas thread nga gibilin ra sa septic tank..

https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...s-rescued.html

[bedouin]

YES and NO


YES. ...legal to those kinahanglanun na jud..like between life and death situation

NO....if gamiton lang for unwanted pregnancy..bata, taw pud sila naa silay katungud mabuhi!!

swerte rata gipakatawo nga dili pa uso ang abortion...

[cebulifer]

On paper, the sentence is imprisonment, up to six years. In the dank back rooms of Manila slums, and in the emergency wards of public hospitals, the sentence can be death. In 2008, at least 500,000 women resorted to abortion. 90,000 suffered complication. A thousand died.

The criminal was a woman. They are always women.

In the Republic of the Philippines abortion is illegal. There are no exceptions under the law. It does not matter if the woman’s life is at stake on an operating table in the Fabella Hospital. It does not matter if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest, if the expectant mother is a nine-year-old girl in the slums of Tondo, if the fetus is expected to die within the womb and the woman with it.

That the penalty of abortion is often death is not a secret from these women. They know this. They’ve seen it happen. Women who risk death are not concerned with the legality of their actions, they are willing to push the twisted end of a plastic hanger into their uteruses; they believe they have no other choice. They may be afraid of God or death or the arm of the law, but they will carry on. The criminal penalty meant to stop abortion has not stopped millions of women; it has only stopped them from seeking help when they are bleeding into the cheap wood floors of their makeshift homes. Criminalization has pushed them into the streets of Quiapo, outside the Church of the Black Nazarene, where the voices of priests echo in prayer and tablets of Cytotec are sold six for a thousand alongside plaster statues of the Virgin Mary.

Her name is Maricel, she was eighteen and already a mother. That year she was granted a visa to work as a domestic worker overseas. She discovered she was pregnant and induced her own abortion for fear of losing her chance to support her family. It took two weeks of infection and vaginal bleeding for Maricel to decide to go to the hospital. Her story ended on the operating table. The doctors said she died of septic shock.

The Republic of the Philippines is one of the last countries in the world that continue to call every instance of termination of pregnancy a criminal act, and because it is, every woman who commits abortion commits it on her own. The Philippines has one of the highest numbers of maternal deaths in the West Pacific Region, 230 dying out of 100,000 live births, as opposed to the regional average of 82. Unsafe abortion is responsible for up to twenty percent of these deaths.

Her name is Josie, twenty-six. She went to an abortionist, who pressed down on her abdomen and thrust a fat hose up her vagina. She was in the clinic a long time. She bled. Some of the blood stank. There was blood on the bedpan, on the sheets, gushing in chunks. The blood was very red. At home, she bled for more than a week. In chunks, in gushes. She thought she would die.

Those who condemn these women point to the woman’s culpability. Whores and sluts, murderers, should have kept their legs closed if they didn’t want a child. Should have abstained. Should have been good, responsible women, should be good mothers, should take responsibility. That most of these criminal women are Catholic, married, uneducated and desperately poor does not matter to many of their critics from Church and laity. Opponents of the Reproductive Health Bill say they oppose the provision of free contraception because to permit it may lead to permitting abortion.

This is Ana, from Manila, a mother of eight, who induced an abortion after her ninth child. She said she could not use family planning, because it was unavailable. A Guttmacher study says that in Manila, where an executive order was issued banning contraception in public health centers, the incidence of abortion is higher than in any other part of the country.

This is Aileen, a mother of five, three of whom were still babies. She risked an unsafe abortion when she found out she was pregnant with her sixth.

“Only those who are better off, rich, can talk about abortion as illegal. They have no worries about raising their children... They do not know what it is like to be poor and desperate… Poor women have limited options… Everything I did was for my living children.”

This is the sort of woman they call a bad mother, a criminal who deserves to bleed to death in the corners of hospital rooms. The stigma on abortion coming from its criminalization means that when a woman who suffers after an unsafe abortion finds the courage to go to a hospital, medical personnel believe they have the right to discriminate. There is no such thing as patient confidentiality; there is no such thing as priority for those who are dying in gushes. The Jason Ivlers of the world can get their confidentiality and medical care after a shootout with the police, but in this country, the woman who aborted is the exception to the Hippocratic oath.

This is Imelda, thirty years old. She was bleeding when she arrived in the Fabella Hospital. The doctors shouted at her. They said they would call the police. They said they would not allow her to leave the hospital if they discovered she had an abortion. She was allowed to bleed without care for four hours, and was interrogated by nine different health workers while she bled.

This is Lisa, and in Gat Andres Bonifacio Memorial Medical Center, they told her she would be arrested if they proved she had aborted. They made her sign a document in English, a language she could not understand on paper. A nurse put a notebook-sized sign at the bottom of her bed with the word “abortion.” There was no chart with her name, only that one word.

Her name was Gina, and when the staff of Tondo General discovered she had aborted, she was left alone. Her back was soaked in blood. She wished someone would give her a napkin, a diaper, anything. Nobody did.

This is written in support of the decriminalization of abortion, in the hope that safe abortion will be offered for women in cases of rape and incest and risk to life, that women will no longer be ignored in emergency rooms because of who they are, that contraception will be provided so that no woman will be forced to see abortion as a choice, and that the thousands who choose the risk of back alleys and coat hangers will be called victims instead of criminals.

Call it by its name: abortion. One thousand women died bleeding in 2008, nobody was held accountable, because for some, these women deserved to die. The state holds them down; the Church watches them bleed. The criminals are not always women. The crimes are not always theirs.

They pray, these women. They believe in God, and some of them believe that God is forgiving, that God would understand. They are afraid to say their names, because they do not have the same faith in their fellow men as they do in God.

repost from Patricia Evangelista

-interesting opinion article about abortion

unsay masulti ni mannyamador ani?

[AmorsoloX]

unsay masulti ni mannyamador ani?

sakto... im waiting for mr manny sab.. dugay2x na sab cya wala comment dre ba.. i hope kabalo cya this things are stacking against his arguments..


regarding your post...

ataya oi.. kaluoy pud... i say we support women's right's.. lets support the RH BILL...

to hell with the church's hypocrital stance and for ignoring the suffering of women..

[cebulifer]

This is written in support of the decriminalization of abortion, in the hope that safe abortion will be offered for women in cases of rape and incest and risk to life, that women will no longer be ignored in emergency rooms because of who they are, that contraception will be provided so that no woman will be forced to see abortion as a choice, and that the thousands who choose the risk of back alleys and coat hangers will be called victims instead of criminals.

Totally support this!!!