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    Quote Originally Posted by bahiista View Post
    I don't believe in reincarnation. i believe there's Heaven and there's hell.
    I respect your belief bro and there is no belief higher than TRUTH!

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    gusto ka ug proof bro sa study of rencarnation? Here is just one doctor and scientist and many others who studies about reincarnation si DR. IAN STEVENSON! By the way bro ang place sa universe ra na bro dili ma apply sa HEAVEN whih is ETERNAL HAPPINESS!
    Dr. Ian Stevenson
    The Pioneer of Reincarnation Research

    Ian Stevenson is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia. He has devoted the last 40 years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world and has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.
    Dr. Stevenson's research into the possibility of reincarnation began in 1960 when he heard of a case in Sri Lanka where a child claimed to remember a past life. He thoroughly questioned the child and the child's parents, as well as the people whom the child claimed were his parents from his past life. This led to Dr. Stevenson's conviction that reincarnation was possibly a reality. The more cases he pursued, the greater became his drive to scientifically open up and conquer an unknown territory among the world's mysteries, which until now had been excluded from scientific observation. Nonetheless, he believed he could approach and possibly furnish proof of its reality with scientific means.
    In 1960, Dr. Stevenson published two articles in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research about children who remembered past lives. In 1974, he published his book, Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation, and became well known wherever this book appeared by those people who already had a long-standing interest in this subject. They were pleased to finally be presented with such fundamental research into reincarnation from a scientific source. In 1997, Dr. Stevenson published his work entitled Reincarnation and Biology. In the first volume, he mainly describes birthmarks - those distinguishing marks on the skin which the newborn baby brings into the world and cannot be explained by inheritance alone. In his second volume, Dr. Stevenson focuses mainly on deformities and other anomalies that children are born with and which cannot be traced back to inheritance, prenatal or perinatal (created during birth) occurrences. This monumental piece of work contains hundreds of pictures documenting the evidence.
    During his original research into various cases involving children's memories of past lives, Dr. Stevenson did note with interest the fact that these children frequently bore lasting birthmarks which supposedly related to their murder or the death they suffered in a previous life. Stevenson's research into birthmarks and congenital defects has such particular importance for the demonstration of reincarnation, since it furnishes objective and graphic proof of reincarnation, superior to the - often fragmentary - memories and reports of the children and adults questioned, which even if verified afterwards cannot be assigned the same value in scientific terms.
    In many cases presented by Dr. Stevenson there are also medical documents available as further proof, which are usually compiled after the death of the person. Dr. Stevenson adds that in the cases he researched and "solved" in which birthmarks and deformities were present, he didn't suppose there was any other apposite explanation than that of reincarnation. Only 30% - 60% of these deformities can be put down to birth defects which related to genetic factors, virus infections or chemical causes (like those found in children damaged by the drug Thalidomide or alcohol). Apart from these demonstrable causes, the medical profession has no other explanation for the other 40% to 70% of cases than that of mere chance. Stevenson has now succeeded in giving us an explanation of why a person is born with these deformities and why they appear precisely in that part of their body and not in another.
    Most of the cases where birthmarks and congenital deformities are present for which no medical explanations exist have one to five characteristics in common.
    (1) In the most unusual scenario, it is possible that someone who believed in reincarnation expressed a wish to be reborn to a couple or one partner of a couple. This is usually because they are convinced that they would be well cared for by those particular people. Such preliminary requests are often expressed by the Tlingit Indians of Alaska and by the Tibetans.
    (2) More frequent than this are the occurrences of prophetic dreams. Someone who has died appears to a pregnant or not as yet pregnant woman and tells her that he or she will be reborn to her. Sometimes relatives or friends have dreams like this and will then relate the dream to the mother to be. Dr. Stevenson found these prophetic dreams to be particularly prolific in Burma and among the Indians in Alaska.
    (3) In these cultures the body of a newborn child is checked for recognizable marks to establish whether the deceased person they had once known has been reborn to them. This searching for marks of identification is very common among cultures that believe in reincarnation, and especially among the Tlingit Indians and the Igbos of Nigeria. Various tribes of West Africa make marks on the body of the recently deceased in order to be able to identify the person when he or she is reborn.
    (4) The most frequently occurring event or common denominator relating to rebirth is probably that of a child remembering a past life. Children usually begin to talk about their memories between the ages of two and four. Such infantile memories gradually dwindle when the child is between four and seven years old. There are of course always some exceptions, such as a child continuing to remember its previous life but not speaking about it for various reasons.
    Most of the children talk about their previous identity with great intensity and feeling. Often they cannot decide for themselves which world is real and which one is not. They often experience a kind of double existence where at times one life is more prominent, and at times the other life takes over. This is why they usually speak of their past life in the present tense saying things like, "I have a husband and two children who live in Jaipur." Almost all of them are able to tell us about the events leading up to their death.
    Such children tend to consider their previous parents to be their real parents rather than their present ones, and usually express a wish to return to them. When the previous family has been found and details about the person in that past life have come to light, then the origin of the fifth common denominator – the conspicuous or unusual behavior of the child - is becoming obvious.
    (5) For instance, if the child is born in India to a very low-class family and was a member of a higher caste in its previous life, it may feel uncomfortable in its new family. The child may ask to be served or waited on hand and foot and may refuse to wear cheap clothes. Stevenson gives us several examples of these unusual behavior patterns.
    In 35% of cases he investigated, children who died an unnatural death developed phobias. For example, if they had drowned in a past life then they frequently developed a phobia about going out of their depth in water. If they had been shot, they were often afraid of guns and sometimes loud bangs in general. If they died in a road accident they would sometimes develop a phobia of traveling in cars, buses or lorries.
    Another frequently observed unusual form of behavior, which Dr. Stevenson called philias, concerns children who express the wish to eat different kinds of food or to wear clothes that were different from those of their culture. If a child had developed an alcohol, tobacco or drug addiction as an adult in a previous incarnation he may express a need for these substances and develop cravings at an early age.
    Many of these children with past-life memories show abilities or talents that they had in their previous lives. Often children who were members of the opposite *** in their previous life show difficulty in adjusting to the new ***. These problems relating to the '*** change' can lead to homosexuality later on in their lives. Former girls who were reborn as boys may wish to dress as girls or prefer to play with girls rather than boys.

    Until now all these human oddities have been a mystery to conventional psychiatrists - after all, the parents could not be blamed for their children's behavior in these cases. At long last research into reincarnation is shedding some light on the subject. In the past, doctors blamed such peculiarities on a lack or a surplus of certain hormones, but now they will have to do some rethinking.
    The following paper by Dr. Stevenson was presented at the Eleventh Annual Meeting of the Society for Scientific Exploration held at Princeton University. June 11-13, 1992. The title of the paper is "Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons" and provides perhaps the most compelling scientific evidence suggestive of reincarnation. Dr. Stevenson's paper presents evidence that physical characteristics, such as birthmarks and deformities, may be carried over from a past life to a present life.
    sa imong article nga gihatag, wala man koy nabasahan bro nga na prove ni Dr. Stevenson nga Fact ang reincarnation. Theory paman siya kutob bro ug wala pud ko nakabasa bro nga gi accept sa Science ang research ni Dr. Stevenson.

    iya rana bro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    sa imong article nga gihatag, wala man koy nabasahan bro nga na prove ni Dr. Stevenson nga Fact ang reincarnation. Theory paman siya kutob bro ug wala pud ko nakabasa bro nga gi accept sa Science ang research ni Dr. Stevenson.

    iya rana bro...
    WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION OR NOT, IT DOESNT' MATTER! YOU WILL STILL REINCARNATE! Bisan ang bible naay gipasabot sa reincarnation pero wala lay pulong nga reincarnation sa bible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION OR NOT, IT DOESNT' MATTER! YOU WILL STILL REINCARNATE! Bisan ang bible naay gipasabot sa reincarnation pero wala lay pulong nga reincarnation sa bible!
    ako mu reincarnate? giunsa man nimo pagkahibaw bro? naa pa gani choice bro ingon ka naa pay eternal happiness. giunsa man nimo pagkahibaw bro nga mu reincarnate ko inig kamatay nako?

    unsa nga verse sa bible bro nga naay gipasabot sa reincarnation? unsa nga verse sa bible bro nga inig kamatay sa tawo mabuhi ug balik pero dili na tawo kundi usa na pud ka hayop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    ako mu reincarnate? giunsa man nimo pagkahibaw bro? naa pa gani choice bro ingon ka naa pay eternal happiness. giunsa man nimo pagkahibaw bro nga mu reincarnate ko inig kamatay nako?

    unsa nga verse sa bible bro nga naay gipasabot sa reincarnation? unsa nga verse sa bible bro nga inig kamatay sa tawo mabuhi ug balik pero dili na tawo kundi usa na pud ka hayop?
    Kung langit ka bro I hope magkita ta didto!

    Sa Gospel of St. John man siguro to bro nga si Jesus nangutana bahin katong buta. (about the blind man )WHo do you think whose fault is this? Is it from his parents? unya miingon dayon si Jesus its not his parents fault but to MANIFEST THE GLORY OF GOD (so, naay gipasabot nganong nabuta katong tawhana) I'm not sure unsa to nga verse basta naa! This is just one verse nga naay gipasabot sa bibliya ang reincarnation!

    Wala ko mo ingon bro nga mobalik ang tawo usa na pod ka hayop! sayop na bro! mobalik siya tawo ra gihapon to learn his lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Kung langit ka bro I hope magkita ta didto!

    Sa Gospel of St. John man siguro to bro nga si Jesus nangutana bahin katong buta. (about the blind man )WHo do you think whose fault is this? Is it from his parents? unya miingon dayon si Jesus its not his parents fault but to MANIFEST THE GLORY OF GOD (so, naay gipasabot nganong nabuta katong tawhana) I'm not sure unsa to nga verse basta naa! This is just one verse nga naay gipasabot sa bibliya ang reincarnation!

    Wala ko mo ingon bro nga mobalik ang tawo usa na pod ka hayop! sayop na bro! mobalik siya tawo ra gihapon to learn his lessons.
    magkita ta didto? asa manta magkita? sa heaven? unsaon man nato pagkita bro wala man kahay place nga heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobi View Post
    magkita ta didto? Asa manta magkita? Sa heaven? Unsaon man nato pagkita bro wala man kahay place nga heaven?
    happy new year bro and regards to ka eli bro! Bilib man sad ko ni ka eli bro kay memorize niya ang bible pero daghan lang ug contradictions!!! mr. Contradiction according to inc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    happy new year bro and regards to ka eli bro! Bilib man sad ko ni ka eli bro kay memorize niya ang bible pero daghan lang ug contradictions!!! mr. Contradiction according to inc!
    basin ikaw si mr. contradiction bro. ingon ka ang Ginoo walay lugar, pero niingon ka God is everywhere. unsa man diay nang "everywhere" dili diay na lugar?

    ingon ka heaven is not a place but a state of being. state of being man kaha pero niingon ka nga "magkita ta didto sa heaven". asa man ta magkita kung walay heaven?

    ikaw raman ang nagkontra kontra bro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobi View Post
    basin ikaw si mr. Contradiction bro. Ingon ka ang ginoo walay lugar, pero niingon ka god is everywhere. Unsa man diay nang "everywhere" dili diay na lugar?

    Ingon ka heaven is not a place but a state of being. State of being man kaha pero niingon ka nga "magkita ta didto sa heaven". Asa man ta magkita kung walay heaven?

    Ikaw raman ang nagkontra kontra bro...
    happy new year bro! greet sad nako! Magdaro sa ko sa amo farm bro ha kay naa ko diri sa bukid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    awa ra, wala pud ka nakasabot sa imong kaugalingong gisulti...hehehehehe!

    ingon ka: "GOD is "there" even before the TIME was created...."

    pangutana nako nimo, unsa manang "there" nga imong giingon?

    hmmmmm...
    grabeha sad nimo bro oi, nigara ka bro or garaon lang jud ka pagkatawo?

    kasimple ana akong gi-sulti imo pajung pilosopohon.

    kani bro bisayaon nako tingalig makasabot naka:

    ang ginoo naa na diha(meaning kung asa man siya karon), basin sa wa pa nahimo ang oras.

    pasabot nako bro, NANA ANG GINOO SA WALA PA NAHIMO ANG ORAS!!(sorry sa caps mga mods)

    pinamay namana imo bro oi, simple ra kaayo akong sentence imo pajud lisodlisoron( tug-an tikang many villar ron ahaha)

    bro, NEW YEAR na,
    ayaw na pagpinamay diha.

    happy new year nalang bro

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