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    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..


    it's the political culture that spawns the likes of gloria, erap, de venecia, lacson, et. al. that has to change. and these reductionist arguments of 'lesser evils' and 'winnability' during elections.

    the status quo electoral process does not offer us better alternatives. pretty obvious. and when we realize that the 'lesser evil' has just had her horns lengthen, then we realize we need to take another drastic measure to boot her out. either through extra legal or constitutional means. we did the former twice. the latter's failure lead to Edsa 2.

    it's time that we realize we just cant go on lopping our heads of state and sit back and expect everything to be better. and when we realize that the weeds we thought we killed has grown again, (though much shorter, and with a mole this time) we panic.

    oh yes, she has to go. even if this scandal did not came to the surface, the rampant violation of human rights under her administration (militarization in the countrysides, etc.), as well as the killings of journalists and activists, the poor state of education as a result of her favoring the military in the national budget, the Mining Act of 1995, the VAT law, her warmongering with Bush, her neo-liberal policies patterned after WTO ... and the list goes on.

    to quote Prof. Randy David in his article at the Philippine Daily Inquirer;

    "The present system, to state the obvious, remains in the hands of a small oligarchy, whose chronic inability to develop a robust economy and alleviate mass poverty is at the root of its recurrent crisis."


    it's a classic have's and have not's story. the former, a divided minority controls the economic, political and cultural staus quo according to their interests. the latter, a voiceless majority, has their interests used and distorted by certain segments of the former to use against it's rival faction.

    the voice and the interest of the majority is lost. it may resurface every now and then, but can only be heard and accepted if it resembles something that can be used by the minority. other than that, it remains as a passing news or as footnotes in history.

    if we, as a people can only see our choices as water that is inside a cup, instead of water that is in the sea, we are doomed to repeat history again and again, and lose out of exasperation.

    the realization must be that this is not between GMA and the opposition, but between the interest of the many, and the interest of the few.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

  2. #152

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    bisan unsa pa inyong i-sulti, wa gyud mo'y mabuhat! mag siga na lang na inyong mata sa realidad na hangtud 2010 pa gyud si Gloria sa gusto pa ninyo ug sa dili.Â* kung sige mo ingon ana, LKK kaayo mo!

  3. #153

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..


    Ang pangutana lage is " mao ba na ang solution ? " oust her out to make PHILIPPINES better ? Hahaha ..... kapila nako makig pusta-anay ninyo .... ma kwarta o asinan nako ang ako-a di mo kay mga bright man kaha mo ..... in reality puro ra mo TRIAL and ERROR !!

    Scapegoats , scapegoats , scapegoats tsk tsk tsk ...... puro mo MALAYA , INQ , SUNSTAR ..... apila na pod ang BANDERA kau naa didto si Xeres hahahahaha !!!!
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  4. #154

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    I am not for Miriam Defensor-Santiago but what she is saying here really makes absolute sense...

    "However, Senators Rodolfo Biazon and Miriam Defensor-Santiago urged the opposition to respect the Constitution and not encourage the people to revolt against the government.

    Biazon said the alliance of different opposition groups under the "Be-Not-Afraid" movement is only temporary and would not last especially since they do not have a leader.

    "I think that there is no commonality of the selection of the alternative leader. Those organizations are fragmented and the move will not prosper," Biazon said.

    Although the opposition has agreed to stand up against President Arroyo due to alleged involvement in jueteng operations and in electoral fraud, once the issue of leadership crops up, they do not have a common stand.

    Senator Panfilo Lacson and supporters of the late movie icon and former presidential candidate Fernando Poe Jr. recently launched the Be-Not-Afraid" movement in order to inform the public about election fraud allegedly perpetrated by President Arroyo in last year's elections as contained in a purported telephone conversation she had with former election commissioner Virgilio Garcillano which was captured in an audiotape.

    Santiago said the opposition should abide by rule of law.


    "Gusto nilang maging presidente, dapat magkampanya sila. Gusto nila parusahan, impeach nila (They want to be president, why don't they campaign for it? They want to punish the President and other government officials they why not impeach them?). All of these methodologies are found in the Constitution. Why do we have to take methods outside the Philippine Constitution?" said Santiago.

    Santiago questioned the timing of Lacson's presentation of evidence showing that the President cheated in the elections.

    Lacson earlier claimed to have four boxes of "prefabricated" election returns (ERs) containing votes for Arroyo that were used in the elections last year.

    Santiago said Lacson should have given the documents to Poe before he died so that they could have been used to bolster his election protest before the Presidential Electoral Tribunal."

    SOURCE: SunStar

  5. #155

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr
    bisan unsa pa inyong i-sulti, wa gyud mo'y mabuhat! mag siga na lang na inyong mata sa realidad na hangtud 2010 pa gyud si Gloria sa gusto pa ninyo ug sa dili. kung sige mo ingon ana, LKK kaayo mo!
    Matagal na yung 2010 pre. Eh araw araw pilay na si GMA. Pilit niyang i alsa ang kanyang mga paa, pero lumpo na talaga gobyerno nya.

    Binabastos na siya ng mga tao. Eh kung magkita lang kami, duduraan ko pa siya. Sinungaling na, mandaraya pa.

    Paulit ulit ko pong narinig yung tape. Grabe. Nanlumo ako. Di ako makapaniwala, isang graduate daw ng Georgetown University sa Amerika, anak ng dating Presidente, propesor sa sikat na Ateneo de Manila University, ay may kakayahang gumawa ng katarantaduhang tulad nito. Ok lang sana kung pinaubaya nya sa kanyg mga alipores ang pandaraya. Aba eh sa pagkagahaman niya sa kapangyarihan ay siya na mismo ang nag "hands on" sa pag operate nang pandaraya niya.

    Garapal talaga. Anong klaseng tao itong nagpapanggap na maging Presidente?. Sa ginawa nyang ito, tiyak talsik na ito. KADIRI KA! GMA! Nakawalang respeto talaga itog ginawa nya. Kapal ng apog nya.

  6. #156

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by tempest
    Â* Grabe.Â* Nanlumo ako.Â* Di ako makapaniwala, isang graduate daw ng Georgetown University sa Amerika, anak ng dating Presidente, propesor sa sikat na Ateneo de Manila University, ay may kakayahang gumawa ng katarantaduhang tulad nito.Â* Ok lang sana kung pinaubaya nya sa kanyg mga alipores ang pandaraya.Â* Aba eh sa pagkagahaman niya sa kapangyarihan ay siya na mismo ang nag "hands on" sa pag operate nang pandaraya niya.

    Garapal talaga.Â* Anong klaseng tao itong nagpapanggap na maging Presidente?.Â* Sa ginawa nyang ito, tiyak talsik na ito.Â* KADIRI KA! GMA!Â* Nakawalang respeto talaga itog ginawa nya.Â* Kapal ng apog nya.
    'kadiri' ? because we have expected too much from her , and in less than a year of presidency , Pinas is still the same and that she's a graduate of so and so , and a daughter of so and so and yet she did this... hmm pero hindi siguro kadiri , if it was a college drop out who did it , cguro ok lang if may blockbuster film din sya ? is that what you mean ?

  7. #157

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    Hahahaha pagka gyud mo Tagalog ..... are you ashame of speaking the dialect because you voted for her and you were TAGGED as ILARONON ?? hahaha palpaka gyud nimo ...... puro mo reklamo , inyohang hugaw wala mo naka reklamo hahahahaha ..... duduraan daw sa mukha , ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS . Mao na bagsak ang ang ato-ang nasod tungod kay mao na kita .... puro YAWYAW walay BUHAT !! LOLZ !!
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  8. #158

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    Ah basta GMA kadiri. Pinahiya nya tatay niya. Siguro bumaligtad yung kalansay ng tatay niya sa kahihiyang ginawa nya sa pamilya.

    Gloria Arroyo, mahiya ka na. Impostor ka. Mas ok pa siguro ang mangurakot pero inihalal. Pero tong tiwali na, jueteng lover, sinungaling at mandaraya pa!

    Kayong maka GMA, ano pa bang dahilan stick kayo sa isang ito. Eh hindi naman totoong Pangulo to! Sayang lang ang depensa nyo eh PEKE naman pala.

  9. #159

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40

    Hahahaha pagka gyud mo Tagalog ..... are you ashame of speaking the dialect because you voted for her and you were TAGGED as ILARONON ?? hahaha palpaka gyud nimo ...... puro mo reklamo , inyohang hugaw wala mo naka reklamo hahahahaha ..... duduraan daw sa mukha , ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS . Mao na bagsak ang ang ato-ang nasod tungod kay mao na kita .... puro YAWYAW walay BUHAT !! LOLZ !!
    Wag nang paligoy ligoy pa.Â* Aminin nyo na lang, Mandaraya at Pekeng Presidente si Gloria.Â* Yun lang. Na obserbahan ko, medyo umikli mga post nyo. Sign of surrender? Sign of Gloria defense fatigue?

    Surrender na lang kayo mga bay.

  10. #160

    Default Re: People Power, Martial Law, Oust GMA, etc.. etc.. etc..

    hoist, mag anti gma..unsa goy surrender..bsan unsaun ninyo dili jud na maoust akong lola gloria oist....ebedensya palang illegal na..dili na dawaton sa korte...eeheheheheh..kamoy angay nga mosurrender...kay susama lang kamo sa iro nga nagpaghut sa buwan..di ba daddy garfield? ehehehehehhe..suck d fifo!!!toink

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