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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by fashion-is-you View Post
    again..its not for her to decide..because its not her life to take away..there might be a possibility that the child will hate himself knowing how he came about..but then again..we will never know...killing the child before him ever knowing what it felt like to live is just You deciding he doesnt have the right to choose..

    We do not have the right to choose for somebody...
    Akong gamiton akong nakat.onan sa ReEd

    IT IS FOR HER to decide, moral theologians is ok para anang abortion for rape victims, imagina kuno mag tan.aw siya sa iyang anak maka remember siya sa nahitabo, ma relive niya ang experience?

    for those of you na dili rape victims, easy for you to say na wala siyay right, nya kung kamoy biktima?

  2. #152
    perhaps saun ra kto para nto nga mosulti nga wala siyay right nga mo abort sa bata kay kinabuhi na iyang gipatay, pero kong huna-hunaon nimo ang side sa babay dili jud sayon kanang ing-ana.. so dili jud ko mka sulti sa victim kong unsay sakto nga buhaton, naa rjud na sa iyang mga kamot ang pag decide, after all iyaha manang life, siya ang magbuot kong unsaon niya ang bata..

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    can you at least post an article about it? because theology is still not free from human misinterpretation.

    kani lang tan-awa brad, Reed40 so i assume sa USC ka which is Catholic School
    kung i tugot pa nang abortion sa bata nga bunga sa RAPE sa catholic theology under morality,
    How is it that the Church Stands against RH bill nga contraceptives lang na, how much more sa abortion?
    catechism of the Catholic church states: Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life
    plus the Bible declares God knows us before we were born in Jerimiah 1:5

    sigurado jud ka brad? i see contradictions.
    Ayaw ingna THE CHURCH stands against RH bill brad, kay ang CHURCH tanan members, ang sakto ana LEADERS sa CHURCH, plus si father miranda is a well known moral theologian, wala siya ni make ug stand sa RH bill, ni stand neutral siya.

    There are two theories when human life begins, through conception and inception, until now wala pana nahuman ang debate if when jud ang sakto nga nag start ang human life. Wa pamay maka prove scientifically gud kung naa nay human spirit ang embryo thats why

  4. #154
    nya rba kong mag tambag2 ta dili rba kita ang mobuhi ug mag antos kong magkinaunsa.. just because abortion is illegal in our country it doesnt really mean nga it's justified all the time.. in every rule there is an exception, case to case basis rjud na, cguro kong kita ang ma apektohan we have the right to decide for ourselves, pero kong lain na nga tawo it's better that we will just let them decide on their own.

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by hdayono View Post
    Kng religion lng ang storyahan supak gyud na... But sa medical field nga practicalai lng, pwde na sya, especialy approvd na ang rh bill... Just be open , just put urselves sa side sa victim... Aside ana lisod e buhi ug anak kng naglisod na gyud kas panginabuhi... Skwela sa lage mo haha
    there was a woman featured in Boy abunda's Bottomline...forgot her name...
    she had a son after she was raped, she believes that the child doesn't have any fault with what happened to her
    she decided to keep the child, though things were tough, she stood by her decision now she has a very loving son
    who always stands by her no matter what, a good friend to others etc...
    had she aborted her son, it would have been one less loving son in this world and one less blessing of friendship to a whole lot of other people.

    what we normally see as a curse usually turns out otherwise - blessings in disguise

    i'm not saying conceiving after a RAPE incident is Less Tragic because of things mentioned above
    its horrible and No one should go through with it.
    but same thing can be said to the child being conceived and aborted, no one should go through with it.

    RAPE in itself is already inhuman, what more abortion could do?

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    nya rba kong mag tambag2 ta dili rba kita ang mobuhi ug mag antos kong magkinaunsa.. just because abortion is illegal in our country it doesnt really mean nga it's justified all the time.. in every rule there is an exception, case to case basis rjud na, cguro kong kita ang ma apektohan we have the right to decide for ourselves, pero kong lain na nga tawo it's better that we will just let them decide on their own.
    sakto2, dli nlang nato i judge

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthetic View Post
    Ayaw ingna THE CHURCH stands against RH bill brad, kay ang CHURCH tanan members, ang sakto ana LEADERS sa CHURCH, plus si father miranda is a well known moral theologian, wala siya ni make ug stand sa RH bill, ni stand neutral siya.

    There are two theories when human life begins, through conception and inception, until now wala pana nahuman ang debate if when jud ang sakto nga nag start ang human life. Wa pamay maka prove scientifically gud kung naa nay human spirit ang embryo thats why
    i understand each of us has our own perspective on things.there's no problem with that as everyone is entitled with an opinion.
    it's no surprize if priest would find themselves approving or neutral with the Bill or even abortion.
    what i was putting emphasis with is what the CATHOLIC CHURCH stands as per Catechism and the magesterium.mao ra na.

    wala man ko minglalis kung when magsatart ang life,kay para sa uban kung dugo pa wapa naporma di pa na tao..
    my emphasis on the subject is what is taught in the Catechism of the catholic church about Life, not as to what a Catholic or even a priest would say..
    esp if it contradicts to waht the magesterium and Catechism states.

  8. #158
    for me, without consideration of religious stuff,
    by following human natural laws lang, I agree kng mag pa-abort ang rape victim.
    1) however religious people says it, but a fetus is not a human yet, Kamu kahinumdom mo na time na fetus mo?
    2) It is hard for the victim to move on when she can "souvenir" for her agony over and over again, forever.. The agony drags forever for her. How can she move on?
    3)The child is unplanned, which means maglisud ang inahan magpadaku ana, the cost specially on the schooling, will greatly affect the victim. She will virtually be "victimized" again.
    4) Emotional consequences..

    Practically, as a human being, I Do agree with abortion if rape victim.

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    nya rba kong mag tambag2 ta dili rba kita ang mobuhi ug mag antos kong magkinaunsa.. just because abortion is illegal in our country it doesnt really mean nga it's justified all the time.. in every rule there is an exception, case to case basis rjud na, cguro kong kita ang ma apektohan we have the right to decide for ourselves, pero kong lain na nga tawo it's better that we will just let them decide on their own.
    tambag ra man ni ato brad, ang disisyon naa sa hingtungdan.
    like naay moduol nimu muingun nga magpakamatay siya...would you not say a word thinking that you would rob that person's decision?

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    tambag ra man ni ato brad, ang disisyon naa sa hingtungdan.
    like naay moduol nimu muingun nga magpakamatay siya...would you not say a word thinking that you would rob that person's decision?
    exactly, but saying that she'll be wrong if iyang ipakuha is an evasive kind of advice.. it's better if we'll just let her weigh the options herself,.

    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

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