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    Yes, it's true that faith alone can save us!

    Humanity has always had two systems of religion available. One is from God and is based on His gracious accomplishment. The other is from mankind and is based on the achievements of men and women. The other is all of sovereign grace and embraced by faith. The other is all of human works and is performed in the flesh. One flows out of a sincere heart, the other from outward hypocrisy.

    Even Moses' law, though from God, was not a means of salvation. It was a means of showing people their need for salvation. "Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin" (Rom. 3:20). When Jesus came, He taught us that we are incapable in ourselves of keeping that perfect law. He made it clear that we must choose the religion of grace and faith rather than the religion of law and works.

    The books in the bible are not in contradiction with each other. If we carefully read the whole chapter and understand its context, you'll be amazed how all the books agree with each other... Don't just take out verses to support your argument, this will get us nowhere. In Ephesians 2:8-9, Paul clearly states that "For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast." Even Titus affirmed this statement, in Titus 3:4-5 "But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour appeared, He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of His mercy."

    And if you're quoting James' statement, when He said "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."(Jas 2:17) to refute the passages I gave you, then I encourage you to read the whole chapter to get the whole idea. James was saying that, if you have turned away from your sins and turned towards God's way of righteousness, you will have a changed life. The theme of 1 John is that the truly redeemed person will demonstrate a truly transformed life. "Whoever keeps His(Jesus) word, truly the love of God is perfected in Him. By this we know that we are in Him(Jesus). He who says he abides in Him(Jesus) ought himself to walk just as He(Jesus) walked" (1 John 2:5-6).

    Those who teach that repentance and the repentant lifestyle aren't a necessary part of the gospel are not presenting the gospel Jesus offered. Such a gospel of self-satisfaction and self-righteousness is from the world, not God.

    God bless you all.

  2. #152
    Yes, having a strong Faith in HIM can SAVE you from a lot of things. Whatever it is that you're struggling from.

  3. #153
    Hello....only faith in Christ Jesus....

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by boss_Osting View Post
    Yes, it's true that faith alone can save us!

    Humanity has always had two systems of religion available. One is from God and is based on His gracious accomplishment. The other is from mankind and is based on the achievements of men and women. The other is all of sovereign grace and embraced by faith. The other is all of human works and is performed in the flesh. One flows out of a sincere heart, the other from outward hypocrisy.

    Even Moses' law, though from God, was not a means of salvation. It was a means of showing people their need for salvation. "Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin" (Rom. 3:20). When Jesus came, He taught us that we are incapable in ourselves of keeping that perfect law. He made it clear that we must choose the religion of grace and faith rather than the religion of law and works.

    The books in the bible are not in contradiction with each other. If we carefully read the whole chapter and understand its context, you'll be amazed how all the books agree with each other... Don't just take out verses to support your argument, this will get us nowhere. In Ephesians 2:8-9, Paul clearly states that "For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast." Even Titus affirmed this statement, in Titus 3:4-5 "But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour appeared, He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of His mercy."

    And if you're quoting James' statement, when He said "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."(Jas 2:17) to refute the passages I gave you, then I encourage you to read the whole chapter to get the whole idea. James was saying that, if you have turned away from your sins and turned towards God's way of righteousness, you will have a changed life. The theme of 1 John is that the truly redeemed person will demonstrate a truly transformed life. "Whoever keeps His(Jesus) word, truly the love of God is perfected in Him. By this we know that we are in Him(Jesus). He who says he abides in Him(Jesus) ought himself to walk just as He(Jesus) walked" (1 John 2:5-6).

    Those who teach that repentance and the repentant lifestyle aren't a necessary part of the gospel are not presenting the gospel Jesus offered. Such a gospel of self-satisfaction and self-righteousness is from the world, not God.

    God bless you all.
    well said....


  5. #155
    Faith No More.

  6. #156
    ... for by grace you have been saved....

    bisaya: kay sa grasya lng ka maluwas....

    'grace' is a favor rendered by one who need not do so; in other words, mercy or 'gift' whole-heartily GIVEN. the receiver (you and me) done nothing to influence the GIVER... that's why paul said, 'while we were SINNERS, Christ died for us'. in our sinful state, God gave His Son as the 'LAMB of God who takes the sins of the world' so that 'whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life'. Christ's death was the 'formula' that washed away our sins because 'without the shedding of the blood, there is no remission of sins...'. no way, we can be reconciled with God if we still have sins unwashed by Christ.

    Isaiah 53:5
    But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

    since we are sinful, that's were FAITH comes in. God's standard of reconciliation to Him is being sinless. it's hard to say but we cant be SINLESS. God's LOVE is the GIFT of payment for our sin in the CROSS. God's requirement to achieve SALVATION? ultimately FAITH in Christ's death in the cross that paid our penalty of sin. if that work of Christ in the cross is not enough then God should not have let His Son just die in vain.

    that's the reason WHY it's purely SALVATION BY FAITH! Faith in CROSS! Faith in CHRIST!

    Good Works is the result of your Faith in Christ. Salvation is assured already in the CROSS. Good Works confirms that salvation. it also confirms the work of the Holy Spirit within. Good Works are the fruit of the Holy Spirit. as Faith continues after believing in the saving grace of the Cross, Good works also is at work because that 'continued' Faith without Good Works is Dead. one cant claim 'SAVED' but his life doesn't confirms it. in short, Good Works is the confirmation of your Genuine Faith.

    Last edited by boxingfan529; 08-13-2008 at 11:36 AM.

  7. #157
    i'd like to reserve my Faith as my last option. in the mean time, i'd like to rely on my own resources.

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    How would man know anything about God?
    When the two are million of levels apart.
    Man is a million degrees lower than the level of God,
    Judging from comparison of things that man and God can do.
    Man can not see, hear or touch God.

    Dog is few degrees lower in level than man.
    A dog can see his master.
    A dog can feel and hear his master (man).

    Can a dog understand his master?
    Does he(it) really know his master?
    Can the dog understand his master's language?
    Can the dog know everything about his master?

    All the dog can actually feel is that his master loves him.
    Other than that, the dog is really clueless.

    Following this logic,
    can man really know God?
    When we are millions of degrees lower and we can not even see, hear and touch God!

  9. #159
    then if faith alone can save, why you guys keep on going to your church or fellowship?
    why you guys keep on giving contribution to your pastors "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?
    why you guys still love your partners and children "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?

    that EPHESIANS 2 is take wrongly and interpreted by people want to escape obligations when serving GOD.

    by believing that FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE is a clear sign of choosing a RELIGION that will tolerate their works which is not biblical.

    Peace!

  10. #160
    and this is why i am agnostic.

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