All About Current Admin of Duterte

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I’m pleased with your civility; rare behavior in this forum.

To begin with, how do you know I have not voiced my opinion on erring priests? Does it need to be in this forum and go in hysterical chorus with dutertetards? Or in billboards with my name in it. Please don’t take me for a cleric like @marius who must have mistaken me for a bishop or cardinal with broad powers to discipline the Catholic Church.

These misguided priests (like Falvey who abused Duterte when he was a boy) and bishops who condone (whitewash) cleric wrongdoings go against the teachings of the Church. Yes, they’re offensive and condemnable and subject to ex-communication for what they have done in their capacities as supposed holy men. In primitive religions, they would be stoned to death. As human beings like you and me, they succumbed to the temptations of the flesh abetted by @marius avatar. They are answerable to God and may God have mercy on their souls.

As to your second question, I have said earlier in my posts we differ in degrees in our beliefs. The problem with some people here is they wrongly appraise you as totally for or against. There’s this guy who says I write well and my logic is good. The only problem is that I’m not a Duterte supporter. Then there’s this other guy, @marius, with demonic epithets spewing from his dirty mouth who thinks his behavior is acceptable maybe because his president speaks the same gutter language, considers me a cleric and keeps on insulting with his maniacal pronouncements as if I am affected by it. Pathetic.

“How is it possible for you to trust the very people who are not practicing what they preach?” Man, you’re not speaking to a child. As we grow and mature, you learn to rationalize and even come to a point you may doubt the actuations of your parents. Trust is an overused cliché on people we place our expectations. Faith, however, is another. We place our faith in God and Catholic Church teachings. Meaning with few erring people in institutions (be it a church or a government) like termites you do not burn the house down to exterminate them. When a government official errs and hailed to court you do not condemn the government but the person – government official.

“has abused their power and also has a lot of money in their pockets …” Touching on the subject of money connotes envy. You lose your soul with too much money and yet people indulge in game of chances like lotto. Lots of people lose their religion because of money.

Unfortunately, I do not buy the "they are human beings" reason as it is an overused excuse as to not condemn them. The thing is, you call out Duterte, here in this forum, but defend the Philippine Catholic Church in the other thread. If I am not mistaken, that would be considered double standard. Both you and @archspace seem to imply that voicing out your opinion in this forum is deemed irrelevant. However, voicing out your beliefs against the President here seems very relevant.

My apologies if it seemed like I was speaking to a child. However, I will leave the religion topic at another time as it will be irrelevant in this thread.

[GemWArrioR]

A simple answer, yet so hard to be understood. Sorry, I don't spoonfed.





I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

see you did not even read the whole context,, and yet you cry like lady... Have you seen or read what some of the priest are doing? like getting some girl;s pregnant and some has GFs and worst sexual abuse? tsk tsk tsk.

AND by the way, he said "You're god is stupid" remark by the President is again way out context, you only read that, as what PAID media said.

[GemWArrioR]

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"they are human beings" is not a reason not to condemn these savages (paedophile clerics) and those who made a mockery of their vow of celibacy. Is not fine and court sentence condemnation? Is not the disgrace and embarrassment they cause to their family name condemnation? Is not the shame they will carry to their graves condemnation?

Divine law and natural law condemn these savages to the fullest extent. If they can get away with it like plunder cases in this administration, they cannot evade what awaits them in after life – that is, if you believe in after life.

“but defend the Philippine Catholic Church in the other thread.”
You must have misread what I was trying to point out or I did not make myself very clear. My beef with Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB is not politically motivated. It is not the same as what dutertetards define as political interference by Catholic Church on their reaction to EJKs, etc. and accuse the Catholic Church usurpation of the separation of church and state doctrine. Others like @marius bait reactionists on their silence on adultery and Delima *** videos by calling them hypocrites and with purposely misspelled abhorrence to fool iStorya SEO on foul words and expressions that are subject to banning.

By my faith and belief, I defend Catholicism and its divine teaching of a Supreme God against defilers like Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB in the same manner patriotic Filipinos defend Philippine sovereignty and its Constitution against foreign aggressors.








I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

Did he call God is Stupid or They're God is Stupid? to whom that did he referred that to?

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All his speeches are privileged. But that doesnt mean it is right, being the head of the state where everything he says becomes policy. Unlike sa Congress where they can say all they want, and the discussions are merely suppletory to the law enacted.

Which is why he should stop talking and just act. The executive branch simply executes the laws. There is not that much need for talk, unlike sa Congress.

So Mirriam can criticize anybody she wants to criticize in a privilege speech, while digong cannot criticize anybody he wants in a privilege speech??

That is what you mean?
Hmmm, isn't there a double standard here? Hmmm let me see..

Both by the way are public servants.. Hmmm..

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"they are human beings" is not a reason not to condemn these savages (paedophile clerics) and those who made a mockery of their vow of celibacy. Is not fine and court sentence condemnation? Is not the disgrace and embarrassment they cause to their family name condemnation? Is not the shame they will carry to their graves condemnation?

Divine law and natural law condemn these savages to the fullest extent. If they can get away with it like plunder cases in this administration, they cannot evade what awaits them in after life – that is, if you believe in after life.

“but defend the Philippine Catholic Church in the other thread.”
You must have misread what I was trying to point out or I did not make myself very clear. My beef with Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB is not politically motivated. It is not the same as what dutertetards define as political interference by Catholic Church on their reaction to EJKs, etc. and accuse the Catholic Church usurpation of the separation of church and state doctrine. Others like @marius bait reactionists on their silence on adultery and Delima *** videos by calling them hypocrites and with purposely misspelled abhorrence to fool iStorya SEO on foul words and expressions that are subject to banning.

By my faith and belief, I defend Catholicism and its divine teaching of a Supreme God against defilers like Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB in the same manner patriotic Filipinos defend Philippine sovereignty and its Constitution against foreign aggressors.








I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

Did he call God is Stupid or They're God is Stupid? to whom that did he referred that to?

Right on point, looks like somebody has to start hearing the president's speeches before acting all hypocratic and cry blasphemy.

[firestarter]

Dili sila the same. One is in the legislative while the other one is President. Of course different standards. Both are public servants but both have different obligations to the public and one has waaay more power than the other. One can create policies just through speeches and the other has to pass through the entire legislative process just to create a policy. If sa Consti pa na, valid classification. Gets?

Power? Is the Legislative and Executive, a co-equal branch of government?

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Was he creating a policy when he delivered his speech criticizing the church teachings?

Or do you consider it as one of his antics, being the person that he is?

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Do you like the persona of the President?

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Which of his policies you DO like? If there are any..

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[firestarter]

And who is doing the blasphemy now – a president of the only Christian nation in the Far East!






I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

Since the US is at the top of it's game, maybe we should be changing to other religious denominations.

[Don Delmar]

K O.A sad nimu. Feeling righteous. Mao na di ta mo asenso kai daghan kau tao O.A parehas nimu.

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A simple answer, yet so hard to be understood. Sorry, I don't spoonfed.





I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

K O.A sad nimu. Feeling righteous. Mao na di ta mo asenso kai daghan kau tao O.A parehas nimu.

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"they are human beings" is not a reason not to condemn these savages (paedophile clerics) and those who made a mockery of their vow of celibacy. Is not fine and court sentence condemnation? Is not the disgrace and embarrassment they cause to their family name condemnation? Is not the shame they will carry to their graves condemnation?

Divine law and natural law condemn these savages to the fullest extent. If they can get away with it like plunder cases in this administration, they cannot evade what awaits them in after life – that is, if you believe in after life.

“but defend the Philippine Catholic Church in the other thread.”
You must have misread what I was trying to point out or I did not make myself very clear. My beef with Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB is not politically motivated. It is not the same as what dutertetards define as political interference by Catholic Church on their reaction to EJKs, etc. and accuse the Catholic Church usurpation of the separation of church and state doctrine. Others like @marius bait reactionists on their silence on adultery and Delima *** videos by calling them hypocrites and with purposely misspelled abhorrence to fool iStorya SEO on foul words and expressions that are subject to banning.

By my faith and belief, I defend Catholicism and its divine teaching of a Supreme God against defilers like Duterte when he called God stupid and SOB in the same manner patriotic Filipinos defend Philippine sovereignty and its Constitution against foreign aggressors.

I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

Here is this article "The church court does its investigation internally and all proceedings are conducted with utmost confidentiality. Only designated and assigned church officials like Cruz can hear and decide the cases. Only the local church and the Vatican will know the decision.

The reason for this is to protect the accused, who still has a right to a good name, the witnesses, the victim, and the process of how the church handles such cases, Cruz said. "

That is taken from this link: How CBCP probes clergy sexual abuse | ABS-CBN News

As much as possible, they want to keep everything for themselves. So, how would we know what happened to those priests who committed crimes that were not reported to the local government? Disgrace and embarrassment only applies to those who fear God. Not those who committed these atrocities hiding in white clothes seeming holy and divine. Same goes to government officials who have done the same thing. Let us not go far out of topic to discuss about condemnation in the divine law.

I did not mention anything about being politically motivated. I am simply stating that you found it relevant to voice out your opinion here against the president. However, you found it irrelevant to voice out your opinion against the Philippine Catholic Church for their wrongdoings on the other thread. That is definitely double standard.

It was clear enough when the president said "Your God is not my God. Your God is stupid". He believes that the Philippine Catholic Teaching of how their God is, is stupid. He believes God should be perfect and could not be comprehended by mere humans. As per the rest of his statement, he believes the true God is perfect. But, if that seemed too much to get out of his talk, why not practice what the Christians pray for all the time. "and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."

Seems to me you are defending your religion. Not faith. Faith is your spiritual connection with God. It is your relationship with God. No one else can deny that. Whether it is the Pope himself or the President of the Philippines.

[digitalsuperman]

for me, my god is not stupid why would i be offended with that statement. and i am the same boat with pdut. i dont believe in original sin. it truly is stupid that was conceptialized by church para lang mabunyagan ang mga bata and of course kwarta syempre....thats just my opinion.

[firestarter]

You have to be kidding me.. Wa jud ka kibaw ana? Those branches are co-equal but a Senator alone is not as powerful as the President. In terms of position, pinaka powerful ang president being the head of state. Do you consider a senator as a head of state?
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EVERY statement he makes becomes policy. What dont you understand about that? Even the word "tambay" was taken literally. And karun, because he has the majority, there is a big chance that every statement he says becomes LAW.
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I like the stance the President is taking against criminality. I like his decisiveness. I dont like his stance against China and his economic policies. Why are you trying so hard to make it black and white? I do not purely hate nor like him. I agree and disagree with him according to the action he makes or the things he says.

You have to stop making this persona of his as an excuse to the mistakes he makes. Calling other peoples' God a SOB is never right and will never lead to a way forward for us. Yes, before you ask, I watched his whole speech about that and I have determined the context. My conclusion? It still wasnt right.

EDIT: Inflation now at 5.2%. Do I agree with him all the time? Now, you tell me.

EVERY statement he makes becomes policy

So karon kay ni ingon man siya kaha nga SOB ang god sa catholic, does it become a policy already that the god of the catholics is a SOB?
So it becomes a LAW na nga ang god sa Catholic is a SOB?

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Actually I was not asking the if I'm making his person as an excuse bro.. Taronga lageg basa ang question. haayyss.. this is where all communication breaks down kay naa nay preconceived notion.

I was only asking if you like his persona.

I do not purely hate nor like him. I agree and disagree with him according to the action he makes or the things he says.

So basically you are stuck in the middle in regards to him? But why do WE people in this forum all hear negative comments from you when talking about him?

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Bitaw bro, kanang stuck gani ka sa middle, lisod baya na.. Sometimes ang uban ana ba kay magpabungot nalang para naay front.

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Today is July 4 in the US which is equivalent to June 12 in the Philippines. In every Philippine Independence Day, do you ever reflect on what is framed in the Philippine Constitution? Like the US Charter, the Philippine Constitution is based on Christian principles. It defines religion as belief in the existence of a Superior Being (God) exercising powers over human beings. With your president pronouncement God is stupid and SOB and other scathing remarks on Christian edicts it seems the country is drifting away from the basic principles that made it.

The American Declaration of Independence 2^nd paragraph states “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.”

For Americans, this is what binds their resolve in spite of the different beliefs and religion, race color, cultures, language, principles, etc. Did you know your poster idol, Robert G. Ingersol, wrote several books but never in any did he mentions God is stupid and SOB. And neither did any US president nor heads of state from other nations ever uttered God is stupid and SOB in public.






I am a Filipino and a Christian. My president was Duterte before he called God stupid and SOB.

If you are talking about God here bro, I think you are in the wrong Topic.