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    cge pa ta ani ampaw...

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    ambot nalang jud asa ni padung ang pinas. wala najuy mapili, pare pareha ra tanan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    I don't think there ever was a flawless or perfect leader, nor do I expect to see one ever. If you look at things in an impartial way, GMA was a good administrator--of course the conduct of her tenure is subject, but I think she was at least competent. Of course there were things I think she erred during her term, when you think about it, she steered the Philippines through one of the biggest global crisis. That alone deserves recognition. But still you keep making strawman. I really don't understand the point you're trying to put across.
    So true, pag 2008 grave to nga crisis worldwide. Daghan companies nag retrench or nag closed pero wa ko ka remember nisaka ang prices sa basic goods. GMA may be maligned by the media but I believed she's done something good that's why we were not so greatly affected by that crisis. Usa ato iya Holiday economics which promotes local tourism so people still spend so business are still earning that time.

    Unya kaning galingkod karon sige panghambog nga ninindot ato economy pero mga presyo nagmahal. Puro ra propaganda ning administrasyona.
    Last edited by rickflag; 07-04-2014 at 04:12 PM.

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    Ug ang kalisod na gi agi.an sa mga katawhan karon nag pa kita jud na kamao jud 2 c GMA sa una maski na dimalas lang xa tungod sa utang ka bubut.on.

  5. #145
    completely agree that during gma's time , she withered the economic crisis with her sound policies , lahi karon nga murag out of touch ang si pnoy sa reality

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    I don't think there ever was a flawless or perfect leader, nor do I expect to see one ever.

    This is the presidency. There should be no room for incompetence.
    I don't think this two agree with each other.

    Yes we never had a perfect leader and of course we cannot expect that there will ever be, simple because it is impossible.
    Then why the heck you wanted your present President to be as competent and as flawless as any President that never has been?
    What is so special about him that you wanted him to do the impossible things?

    GMA may have steered as pretty good along the way of global crisis, but she also stirred us up to a long term national crisis and a part of it is what we still feel to date. Is that what you mean about competency? A Plunderous President and its Constituents?

    I know and I completely understand what Filipino people feels, complaints or even protest. (pero dugay na man gud kaau ni na pamaagi pero walay effect and it gets worst pag abot sa internet). Why not try a different approach when protesting didn't work. It is not doing nothing when you don't protest and shouting your lungs out coz you've been busy helping yourself up. Why these people not try helping its oneself one step at a time rather than ask the government to help them all in an instant.

    Basic English, again don't flatter yourself. Basic English that were not supposed to be discussed about the meaning and from were it was rooted nor ask the person of what does it really mean.

    Also great people like Winston C, and Kris Aquino has something in common. They were but a product of media and propaganda. So don't take any of their words to live with.

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    unsa kahay sulod sa utok sa presidente noh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    I don't think this two agree with each other.
    don't think too hard. just because someone is competent doesn't mean they are not flawed. He/she could be competent and lack grace. He or she could be competent but not have the proper support of other forces. etc. etc. So yes, it is possible. In the case of PNoy, he is not competent nor is he graceful, and if what you said in your previous post is right, nor does he have the support of other forces. He is inept. period.

    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    Yes we never had a perfect leader and of course we cannot expect that there will ever be, simple because it is impossible.
    Then why the heck you wanted your present President to be as competent and as flawless as any President that never has been?
    What is so special about him that you wanted him to do the impossible things?
    Again you erroneously equate competence to flawlessness. And even if they are not competent, it does not mean they get a pass from the constituency. If dili competent, then the constituents should demand that he do better. It is their right to demand it from him/her.

    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    GMA may have steered as pretty good along the way of global crisis, but she also stirred us up to a long term national crisis and a part of it is what we still feel to date. Is that what you mean about competency? A Plunderous President and its Constituents?
    don't forget to brandish that word allegedly. She is still under trial under those allegations, which by the way is seemingly not holding water in the courts. Please expound what you mean by long term national crisis? AFAIK most of our national crisis has been a problem that predates the term of exPGMA.

    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    I know and I completely understand what Filipino people feels, complaints or even protest. (pero dugay na man gud kaau ni na pamaagi pero walay effect and it gets worst pag abot sa internet). Why not try a different approach when protesting didn't work. It is not doing nothing when you don't protest and shouting your lungs out coz you've been busy helping yourself up. Why these people not try helping its oneself one step at a time rather than ask the government to help them all in an instant.
    It's still their right to complain. It is an unalienable right enshrined in the constitution. The only reason it doesn't work is because the nature of corruption is deeply entrenched and enriched in our culture. If you try to ignore the mess in our leadership, then the government will simply ignore you too and will keep playing their brand of corruption and half-assery. They would probably enjoy it if more people thought like you whilst they keep cheating the people. Again, there let me reiterate, criticism is different from active protest.

    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    Basic English, again don't flatter yourself. Basic English that were not supposed to be discussed about the meaning and from were it was rooted nor ask the person of what does it really mean.
    Is this in German? Wa ko kasabot. I didn't know one could flatter themselves by knowing a very common word.

    Quote Originally Posted by emberjim View Post
    Also great people like Winston C, and Kris Aquino has something in common. They were but a product of media and propaganda. So don't take any of their words to live with.
    pffft Yeah, Winston Churchill, the man who led a broken Britain to resiliency in order to stave off a seemingly inevitable Nazi domination, is comparable to Kris Aquino. I don't agree with a lot of sentiments, but despite his rhetoric most of what he says is spot on. Criticism is an intrinsic part of democracy. If you don't speak up, and just conform even while your leadership is inept and bumbling, that isn't democracy--that's demoCRAZY.

    BTW, you know who else is a "product of media and propaganda"? President Benigno Simeon Cojuangco Aquino III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    So true, pag 2008 grave to nga crisis worldwide. Daghan companies nag retrench or nag closed pero wa ko ka remember nisaka ang prices sa basic goods. GMA may be maligned by the media but I believed she's done something good that's why we were not so greatly affected by that crisis. Usa ato iya Holiday economics which promotes local tourism so people still spend so business are still earning that time.

    Unya kaning galingkod karon sige panghambog nga ninindot ato economy pero mga presyo nagmahal. Puro ra propaganda ning administrasyona.
    I think because of the emergency during her term (inheriting a Philippines that was free-falling and then the 2008 global economic crisis), corruption became seemingly rampant. Whether she was actively allowing it to metastasize is still subject to debate, heck you can even argue that corruption became more obvious because it was the dawn of the information age for the Philippines at that point. But one thing's for sure. She is a fiscal and administrative genius.
    Last edited by æRLO; 07-04-2014 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    But one thing's for sure. She is a fiscal and administrative genius.
    She may be far from perfect, but this I have to agree. Small and medium scale enterprises during her term are encouraged to do more business. Unlike now that it is only the big ones who are enjoying.

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