Have you seen Poleteismo?

[WordofGod]

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Again, If I were protesting, I'd protest in front of the assembly that I want to protest, not 100 kilometers away in the middle of the forest.



I am an objectivist--as such, your statement has no meaning for me.

-RODION

hahaha... samot nang imoha ka walay meaning!
then ayaw parehasa ang mga tawo ug katwisted na like sa imong hunahuna!

Daghan paman ang mga tarung karon ug huna-huna!

[rodsky]

TO WHAT KIND OF EVOLUTION? IMMORAL BEINGS?Try to think a little godly brod kay basin nawala na ang imong conscience. You cannot DENY the foundations that was imprinted in our inner self which are real and indivisible with our existence as being made in the image of GOD.

Gawas kung para nimo magpina-mananap ka ug style kay evolution para ninyo!

Look at you--you're participating in a forum, running on a server, over the internet, developed by DARPA, on computers that have a lineage stretching back to the very first transistors vacuum tubes, all powered by an intellectual revolution (and NOT a religious revolution) that began in the 18th and 19th centuries (by scientists and engineers WHO CHALLENGED mysticism with rationality.

You are using the very tools made by people who CHALLENGE your line of thinking, and yet you choose to condemn it.

You're biting the hand that feeds you. And then you dare tell me nga "twisted" akong huna-huna.

-RODION

[tokidoki_v2.0]

I liken art (modern or antiquated) as something similar to the emperor's new clothes. Baliktad lang ta ron. People today "appreciate" the old works of past artists while some people in their time mocked them.

The ironic thing is that modern people who collect and promote these works as a way of saying it's the "emperor's new clothes". Saying to others that "you don't appreciate" art is like the Emperor saying that one is a fool because he doesn't see his new clothes.

Seriously, guys, art is subjective. Mao gani "appreciation" and not a science experiment where you're all required to do the same thing and expect to yield the same thing.

I guess when some people were offended by this guy's work it was just the same as saying the emperor has no clothes.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

That is why there is what we call RESPONSIBILITY .

Just because there is FREEDOM of SPEECH per se , we can say what we want .

Same thing with the RIGHTS of these so called artist . Just because it is called a right doesnt mean you can step on anyones toes .

Like what RODSKY was saying , although bali man tuod ... ang artist unta ang ni adto sa simbahan if he wants to make a statement about religion by single outing Christians . Ngano tua man siya sa CCP ?

Appreciation comes within , but it doesnt constitute that because you dont like the art doesnt mean you got OFFENDED .

And another question to all of you :

Na APPRECIATE ba ninyo ang taste sa ARTWORKS sa artist na atong subject diri karon sa thread ?

[WordofGod]

Yes, the piece is apparently very offensive to the religious community (as evidenced by the multiple threats and arson attempt). And that is what the artist was aiming for, he wanted to make a statement about religion. I don't know exactly what the statement was, nor do I really care. But the bottom line is, it is our obligation to defend his right to say what he wants. Free countries don't censor artists.

It doesnt fall to the category of ART bro! that's okay bro sa mga nangayabag na nga mga artists. sobraan sa trip tingali bah!

[WordofGod]

Look at you--you're participating in a forum, running on a server, over the internet, developed by DARPA, on computers that have a lineage stretching back to the very first transistors vacuum tubes, all powered by an intellectual revolution (and NOT a religious revolution) that began in the 18th and 19th centuries (by scientists and engineers WHO CHALLENGED mysticism with rationality.

You are using the very tools made by people who CHALLENGE your line of thinking, and yet you choose to condemn it.

You're biting the hand that feeds you. And then you dare tell me nga "twisted" akong huna-huna.

-RODION

What do you mean? all the inventions were made by those people with twisted mind like yours? haven't they respected those religious figures?

[rodsky]

Ngano tua man siya sa CCP ?

The Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP) is a government entity.

We like to think of our country's government as a democracy.

A democracy clearly establishes the separation of church and state.

As such, the church cannot impose sanctions against CCP--doing this would be a violation of the principle of the separation of church and state and thus a violation of one of the basic tenets for a democracy. In fact, the church cannot even give claim to a 'blasphemic' act considering the act wasn't done in a place sacred to whatever denomination or faith.

Another important fact that people have to understand--the CCP didn't close down the exhibit because it "bowed" to the pressure of the church--the CCP close it down to PROTECT the installation from vandalism from errant members of the public (mostly irate Catholics).

The greater injustice here, is what our president has done, by sanctioning the closure with his "blessings" and thus inadvertently exercised blatant censorship, thus violating freedom of expression.

What do you mean? all the inventions were made by those people with twisted mind like yours? haven't they respected those religious figures?

Some have, some haven't. But that's not the issue--the issue is that rationalism gives you what you have now in front of you, the means to post your ideas here, in this forum, NOT mysticism (such as the one that your religion promotes).

I'll take your "twisted mind" comment as a compliment Thank you.

-RODION

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ RODSKY ...

Daghan na storya and daghan sayop .

Straight to the point lang between minds of MATURE and RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE .

Do you really find the ART ba lage AMUSING in a sense that you can appreciate and indeed call it a MASTERPIECE out of ART ?

[tokidoki_v2.0]

Na APPRECIATE ba ninyo ang taste sa ARTWORKS sa artist na atong subject diri karon sa thread ?

For me no. Doesn't suit my taste.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

^^^

And I would not be amazed na naay tao maka appreciate seeing a CROSS na naay OTIN . Maski ATHEIST pa ka , you would be raising eyebrows .