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  1. #141

    Ato ni i.post diri og balik ang FULL EN BANC SA DECISION GANINA kay murag wa mo kahibaw sa whole story or wa lng jd mo n.care og basa kay taas kaayo, I SUGGEST BASAHA JUD NINYO TANAN.

    G.R. No. 176389

    Why would the previous judge who handled the case proclaim that Webb's departure to the US is fabricated if the US govt itself sent the Philippines documents to strengthen Webb's alibi?

    Kani pa lang daan na testimony sa former head sa NBI sa una oh, yabo nmn si Alfaro sa una pa:

    Spoiler! 

    According to Atty. Artemio Sacaguing, former head of the NBI Anti-Kidnapping, Hijacking, and Armed Robbery Task Force (AKHAR) Section, Alfaro had been hanging around at the NBI since November or December 1994 as an “asset.” She supplied her handlers with information against drug pushers and other criminal elements. Some of this information led to the capture of notorious drug pushers like Christopher Cruz Santos and Orlando Bacquir. Alfaro’s tip led to the arrest of the leader of the “Martilyo gang” that killed a police officer. Because of her talent, the task force gave her “very special treatment” and she became its “darling,” allowed the privilege of spending nights in one of the rooms at the NBI offices.

    When Alfaro seemed unproductive for sometime, however, they teased her about it and she was piqued. One day, she unexpectedly told Sacaguing that she knew someone who had the real story behind the Vizconde massacre. Sacaguing showed interest. Alfaro promised to bring that someone to the NBI to tell his story. When this did not happen and Sacaguing continued to press her, she told him that she might as well assume the role of her informant. Sacaguing testified thus:


    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. Atty. Sacaguing, how did Jessica Alfaro become a witness in the Vizconde murder case? Will you tell the Honorable Court?

    x x x x

    A. She told me. Your Honor, that she knew somebody who related to her the circumstances, I mean, the details of the massacre of the Vizconde family. That’s what she told me, Your Honor.

    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. And what did you say?

    x x x x

    A. I was quite interested and I tried to persuade her to introduce to me that man and she promised that in due time, she will bring to me the man, and together with her, we will try to convince him to act as a state witness and help us in the solution of the case.

    x x x x

    Q. Atty. Sacaguing, were you able to interview this alleged witness?

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. No, sir.

    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. Why not?

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. Because Jessica Alfaro was never able to comply with her promise to bring the man to me. She told me later that she could not and the man does not like to testify.

    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. All right, and what happened after that?

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. She told me, “easy lang kayo, Sir,” if I may quote, “easy lang Sir, huwag kayong…”

    COURT:
    How was that?

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. “Easy lang, Sir. Sir, relax lang, Sir, papapelan ko, papapelan ko na lang ‘yan.”

    x x x x

    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. All right, and what was your reaction when Ms. Alfaro stated that “papapelan ko na lang yan?”

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. I said, “hindi puwede yan, kasi hindi ka naman eye witness.”

    ATTY. ONGKIKO:
    Q. And what was the reply of Ms. Alfaro?

    WITNESS SACAGUING:
    A. Hindi siya nakakibo, until she went away.
    (TSN, May 28, 1996, pp. 49-50, 58, 77-79)


    Quite significantly, Alfaro never refuted Sacaguing’s above testimony.
    Last edited by FranZeno; 12-14-2010 at 11:07 PM.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantehshiznit View Post
    oh i see i lot of silly reasoning here without basis.

    i hope you guys are enlighten with the reasons shown by the SC for ruling this case.


    maybe you can waste your time watching the two sides of the story. rather than wasting your time posting silly ones, speculating things.

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    ENJOY! and yeah, were so fond of generalization. this one is different to another case pls remember. ampatuan case is blatant.


    CONCLUSION

    In our criminal justice system, what is important is, not whether the court entertains doubts about the innocence of the accused since an open mind is willing to explore all possibilities, but whether it entertains a reasonable, lingering doubt as to his guilt. For, it would be a serious mistake to send an innocent man to jail where such kind of doubt hangs on to one’s inner being, like a piece of meat lodged immovable between teeth.

    Will the Court send the accused to spend the rest of their lives in prison on the testimony of an NBI asset who proposed to her handlers that she take the role of the witness to the Vizconde massacre that she could not produce?




    if you want further explainations click this link -->G.R. No. 176389
    Great Post!
    Tumpak!

    dili tungod kay si Vizconde victim mu sympathy nlang ta niya even if...
    His idea kung kinsa tinuod na killer is wrong...

    Truth must come out.. ug dli point fingers lng para lng mahuwas ang trauma..

    But i like what Mr. Vizconde said sa TV interview..gi challenge nya ang supreme court to find out kung kinsa ba gyud tiunod na killer.!

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Which facts? Nonsensical post is nonsensical. =P
    facts kung ngano naka abot ang SC ug ingon ana nga decision


    Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
    Last edited by masakiton; 12-15-2010 at 12:11 AM. Reason: "sa" to "ang"

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilcher View Post
    Great Post!
    Tumpak!

    dili tungod kay si Vizconde victim mu sympathy nlang ta niya even if...
    His idea kung kinsa tinuod na killer is wrong...

    Truth must come out.. ug dli point fingers lng para lng mahuwas ang trauma..

    But i like what Mr. Vizconde said sa TV interview..gi challenge nya ang supremer court to find out kung kinsa ba gyud tiunod na killer.!
    even mr. vizconde doesn't know kung knsa jud ang suspects..I doubt even the NBI knows. In this case it's not the justice system that is screwed, it's the NBI. Well, apil ra ghpn ani ang justice ky sila mn m.decide, still the root of all the mayhem is the NBI, ngdali2 mn..tsktsk

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by mimigs View Post
    and some istoryans love and support the kangaroo court
    If HUbert is guilty then explain what are those evidences..

    pls enumerate them so ma convince mi.. tanan..

    i doubt it.. wala mu ma produce!...wala man gani nakita ang korte kamo pa kaha!

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by FranZeno View Post
    Ato ni i.post diri og balik ang FULL EN BANC SA DECISION GANINA kay murag wa mo kahibaw sa whole story or wa lng jd mo n.care og basa kay taas kaayo, I SUGGEST BASAHA JUD NINYO TANAN.

    G.R. No. 176389

    Why would the previous judge who handled the case proclaim that Webb's departure to the US is fabricated if the US govt itself sent the Philippines documents to strengthen Webb's alibi?
    The previous judge did not say it's fabricated, what he said is that it is possible, given Webb's influence and money, that it could have been. And that doubt alone makes such evidence unable to overturn the witness testimony of uninterested third parties. You have to look at the credibility of the witnesses. What I find shocking in this decision is it seems to imply that not only Alfaro, but also the maids and security guards are lying, without providing any iota of evidence that they are doing so. It seems a separate standard of evidence is applied to the documentation that favors the Webb and the witness testimonies that are harmful to his case. On the one hand, the SC demands absolute proof that the documentary evidence is a lie, but on the side of the prosecution witnesses it considers them unreliable and untruthful without giving any proof that they are.

    It seems they went out of their way to turn Alfaro into a liar, and their only support for this? Because there were some inconsistencies in her testimony that they found unbelievable. And also because they thought it clever to resort to name calling and call her a "stool pigeon" of the NBI. Frankly I wonder what other court in the world would resort to such childishness, but I'm honestly no longer surprised that our judges could act in such a childish manner, its to be expected after all from one of the worst justice systems in the world.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Which facts? Nonsensical post is nonsensical. =P


    then give us your sense...

    show us evidence sa imoa gituuhan na guilty si Webb..

    come out come out!!

    cguro imoa nahurot watch ang vizconde drama series sa TV mao na grabe imoa symphaty na guilty jud sila

    ug ni watch pod sa sa jessica alfaro story..!

    Caution: movie version was based on testimonies.. not on facts ug credible witnesses!

    next time Watch news..and not drama series!

    peace!

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    The previous judge did not say it's fabricated, what he said is that it is possible, given Webb's influence and money, that it could have been. And that doubt alone makes such evidence unable to overturn the witness testimony of uninterested third parties. You have to look at the credibility of the witnesses. What I find shocking in this decision is it seems to imply that not only Alfaro, but also the maids and security guards are lying, without providing any iota of evidence that they are doing so. It seems a separate standard of evidence is applied to the documentation that favors the Webb and the witness testimonies that are harmful to his case. On the one hand, the SC demands absolute proof that the documentary evidence is a lie, but on the side of the prosecution witnesses it considers them unreliable and untruthful without giving any proof that they are.

    It seems they went out of their way to turn Alfaro into a liar, and their only support for this? Because there were some inconsistencies in her testimony that they found unbelievable. And also because they thought it clever to resort to name calling and call her a "stool pigeon" of the NBI. Frankly I wonder what other court in the world would resort to such childishness, but I'm honestly no longer surprised that our judges could act in such a childish manner, its to be expected after all from one of the worst justice systems in the world.
    Well, I bet the Webb's have all the money and power in the world to control the USA and have them submit a fake certification of Webb's stay in the USA and sent directly to the PH Govt. Or shall we wait for Wikileaks to show us a cable of this happening?

    Whether the maid and security is lying, it still boils down to Alfaro's testimony, her testimony is what's keeping the case alive.

    If Webb has the influence and money, I bet the NBI also had the influence and power on the maid and security.

    Just like what the SC stated, we should keep an open-mind in this case, but no matter how open my mind is, dili jud m.tugma ang testimony ni Alfaro. Why would Webb even throw a rock to break a glass door when their aim as suspects is to escape unnoticed? Or is it just to fill in a story to answer the physical evidence.

    EDIT, answer to the bolded text:

    If he said it was possible, then why did he proclaim them guilty? He wasn't even sure if that's the case. There was no evidence to show that their influence and money was able to fabricate an OFFICIAL US GOVT DOCUMENT. And don't tell me Hubert swam to the USA just to evade immigrations, or he paid the US immigrations officer at the airport just to bypass being documented on his exit/entry to the USA. If so, then I pity the USA, I've always known they had the strictest immigrant entry in the world.
    Last edited by FranZeno; 12-14-2010 at 11:30 PM.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by FranZeno View Post
    Well, I bet the Webb's have all the money and power in the world to control the USA and have them submit a fake certification of Webb's stay in the USA and sent directly to the PH Govt. Or shall we wait for Wikileaks to show us a cable of this happening?

    Whether the maid and security is lying, it still boils down to Alfaro's testimony, her testimony is what's keeping the case alive.

    If Webb has the influence and money, I bet the NBI also had the influence and power on the maid and security.

    Just like what the SC stated, we should keep an open-mind in this case, but no matter how open my mind is, dili jud m.tugma ang testimony ni Alfaro. Why would Webb even throw a rock to break a glass door when their aim as suspects is to escape unnoticed? Or is it just to fill in a story to answer the physical evidence.


    kung nauso lng sa una live coverage sa korte.. like sa time ni estrada.. sus.. klaro jud kaayu nga namakak tong bayhana!

    kung credible witness ka.. di na kailangan isuwat or usbon imoa testimony..
    gikan na mismo sa baba nimo.. dapat consistent ka sa storya..

    mga law students and lawyers dire. kahibaw ana!

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilcher View Post
    If HUbert is guilty then explain what are those evidences..

    pls enumerate them so ma convince mi.. tanan..

    i doubt it.. wala mu ma produce!...wala man gani nakita ang korte kamo pa kaha!
    Mao jd..wala mn gani fingerprint mn lng na nakuha..DNA? Was it even Hubert's..

    Mas mutuo pa ko kung mga akyat bahay ang nipatay nila..

    The only evidence is eye-witness accounts by Alfaro, kana nalang gani unta ang ebidenxa, saup pa jd and to add pa jd, she's an NBI asset who specializes in sacking criminals by mingling with them, plus a drug addict.

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