Page 15 of 17 FirstFirst ... 5121314151617 LastLast
Results 141 to 150 of 170
  1. #141

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation


    1. If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed. - Adolf Hitler
    2. It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge. - Adolf Hitler

    does 1 and 2 add up for the system of what? go figure.

  2. #142

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Lamachina88 View Post
    that's because the church wants people to be as ignorant as possible. they want sheep's that they can herd, not people!
    Di lng gud ta pataka ug generalize gud..

    Di man ko Katoliko pero against ko aning RH bill.

    Agree ko nga naay mga taw sa Simbahan nga gusto ma ignoranti ang taw pero dili sila tanan.

    Unya dili pud about aning RH bill. Some of them are standing by their facts and logic and is trying their best to inform the people about how evil and maniac and stupid this Bill is.

    Katong mga taw sa simbahan nga wala ra nag pakabana ani nga Bill, mao to ang mga taw nga gusto ma ignoranti ang publiko.

    Unsa-on..

  3. #143

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    mao sad siguro nang tinuohan sa uban, ilaha sad na.. Pero,mura nag letson manok nga kung ikaw ra usa o 2 o 3 mo mu kaon,busog jud mo. kung 100 mo kabook,ay ambot lang unsay itsura...

  4. #144

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Please get your hands on the Malthusian Theory on Population

  5. #145

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Food production increases arithmetically while population grows geometrically! Simple ra gyud ang end game situation.

  6. #146

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    yup! mutaas jud arithmetically hasta pud ang presyo sa inadlaw adlaw motaas samtang nagdagan ang panahon ug nagkadaghan populasyon ug mga walay trabaho kung ibase nato diri sa PH..,but theory is still a theory unlike law of supply and demand, like what happened back on 2007 till now, nimahal ang bugas kay "shortage" daw.hahaha.linya lagi.. wa jud ko kabantay nga nibalik ang presyo sa bugas hangtod karon,di pareha sauna nga ang tag P45/kilo karon kay tag P25 ra sauna(4yrs ago). hehe. daghan sad sigurog gipanggutom atong tuiga oi.hehe

  7. #147

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    dili kaayo ko mo agree ani nga ang poverty is not caused bay over population. agree ko pero gamay ra. rh bill bi! asa na!

  8. #148

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Quote Originally Posted by omniknight View Post
    Di lng gud ta pataka ug generalize gud..

    Di man ko Katoliko pero against ko aning RH bill.

    Agree ko nga naay mga taw sa Simbahan nga gusto ma ignoranti ang taw pero dili sila tanan.

    Unya dili pud about aning RH bill. Some of them are standing by their facts and logic and is trying their best to inform the people about how evil and maniac and stupid this Bill is.

    Katong mga taw sa simbahan nga wala ra nag pakabana ani nga Bill, mao to ang mga taw nga gusto ma ignoranti ang publiko.

    Unsa-on..
    wa ko nagpataka mao nai tinood, the church doesnt want you to think for yourself
    Last edited by Lamachina88; 03-10-2011 at 07:49 AM. Reason: spelling

  9. #149
    Banned User
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    5,363
    Blog Entries
    9

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Quote Originally Posted by pantaleon View Post
    During the Roman empire, Romans had approximate life expectancy of 22 to 25 years. In 1900, the world life expectancy was approximately 30 years and in 1985 it was about 62 years, just two years short of today’s life expectancy.

    it used to be that population size was controlled by wars and disease – nature’s servo-mechanism – but humanity has more or less conquered that. Let’s do a thought experiment- if the birth rate remained constant at the replacement rate of 2 births per woman – but people lived longer due to better treatment of disease and avoidance of conflict, in due time you’ll have a logarithmic population explosion.
    This situation is akin to an algal bloom – an algal bloom or marine bloom or water bloom is a rapid increase in the population of algae in an aquatic system.


    Carrying capacity, however, is another matter.
    Going back to our analogy of the restaurant, it can be said that as the the restaurant is becoming packed – and more people are waiting – it’s carrying capacity is being stretched. The restaurant’s options are
    * Increase capacity – provide more tables and chairs to squeeze in more customers; optimize processes to ensure customers are served in clock work fashion;
    * Increase throughput outflow – change the offerings in order to speed up the outflow;
    * Reduce inflow – increase the price of admission; and,
    * Recommend other restaurants.
    Have we looked at all our options or are we just looking at the options which have the highest number of proponents – but not necessarily the best option.
    Have we looked at technologies that change the carrying capacity – just like when carrying capacity changed as we went from steam, to coal, to nukes, to fossils, to renewables – and to a blend of all these technologies.
    Like an algal bloom, the human population bloom can affect the environment in temporary or long-term ways. The environment can change such that it is no longer habitable for humans. That is disastrous for the human species. But bacteria which live in hostile environments will continue to exist and life goes on in the planet – albeit without humans. Humanity can reach the height of prosperity – and then kaboom – have an extinction level event due to our shortsightedness as a species.
    Will that mean the earth will go extinct too? I doubt very much. Unless the nukes go off or an asteroid hits the earth to blow it up – the planet goes on. After all, humanity is but a speck of dust in the billions of years that took to form terra firma.
    Whether integrated resource management of our external environment and our population is best addressed by the market or government is a raging battle as the wisdom of bigger government spending and its ability to deliver cost-effective results is put under the microscope.
    This enough I know – when it comes to public finances, I don’t trust the Philippine government. I’d rather spend my money and give it direct to the beneficiary instead of giving my money to government who in turn will disburse it “for the greater good”.
    Oh by the way, the Road User’s Tax has just been used by Congress to give itself a raise and more perks


    The recipe for blooms is abundant sunlight, nutrients and the right water conditions. Phytoplankton blooms are a natural occurrence in spring. Blooms can also occur in summer and fall when there is an increase in nutrients from natural sources such as wind-driven mixing of surface waters with deeper waters, or human sources, such as wastewater treatment plants. As phytoplankton use up the nutrients in the surface waters, their growth slows and cells eventually die. Dying blooms can be an environmental concern because as the cells sink and decay, bacteria decompose the organic material, which in turn strips oxygen from the water. This microbial oxygen demand at times leads to very low oxygen conditions in the bottom waters.
    ******
    Nature evolves new pathogens – while humans are also preempting nature through technology. In the process we live longer – and introduce new drug-resistant pathogens.
    As we live longer from 25 years to 75 years (although Africa today has avg life expectancy of 35 y.O) – where a piece of earth is occupied by one individual for only 25 years – the increased life expectancy means that the same piece of land will now be occupied by more people – three times longer – even though people are giving birth at the same rate or even reduced rates – at the ideal replacement level of 2 births per woman.
    Picture a restaurant. Customer come to the restaurant at the rate of two persons per table per hour. It used to be that guests will come in, order food, eat it, and are out of there in half an hour. Then the restaurant provides more options and entertainment. People still come in at the same rate – but are staying longer. Normally, as the guest leaves, the table is freed up for new guests. But because the guests now stay longer, even if the rate of new orders is constant as before – there will be a bottleneck – because the outflow is slower than the inflow. People are taking more time to order, are eating the food slower, and taking more time to finish. Guess what happens to those who are still waiting for their turn?
    What this implies is there’s more to poverty than overpopulation.
    It also implies that the assertion of the reproduction rate as a culprit for overpopulation is doubtful. Or that overpopulation as the cause of poverty is more doubtful.
    Some people describe poverty as a lack of essential items – such as food, clothing, water, and shelter – needed for proper living. At the UN’s world summit on social development, the ‘Copenhagen declaration’ described poverty as “…a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information.” when people are unable to eat, go to school, or have any access to health care, then they can be considered to be in poverty, regardless of their income. To measure poverty in any statistical way, however, more rigid definitions must be used.
    Let’s look at hard data and see if the RH bill’s argument that overpopulation causes poverty is spot on.
    Indonesia
    * has a population of 240 million
    * Land Area: 1,811,569 sq km
    * GDP – per capita (ppp): $4,300 (2010 est.)
    Philippines
    * has 90 million population-
    * land area: 298,170 sq km
    * GDP per capita – $3,500 (2010 est.)
    Japan
    * 120 million population;
    * land area – 364,485 sq km -
    * GDP – per capita (ppp): $34,200 (2010 est.)
    North Korea
    * has 24.5 million population;
    * land area – 120,538 sq km -
    * GDP – per capita (ppp): $1,800 (2010 est.)
    The argument that overpopulation is a cause of poverty is negated because for such a principle to hold true then Japan, too should have the same GDP per capita as the Philippines and Indonesia. Obviously – the numbers don’t add up.
    There is so much wealth in the world today that can provide food, clothing, water, and shelter – however access to it such wealth or the lack of it is a function of economic policy – regardless of whether you have no child, one child, or five children. In an environment where economic policy is skewed in favor of vested interests – you can have small family sizes – and people with very low purchasing power. For example, North Korea has 1.9 births per woman and GDP per capita of $1,800. If one were to buy the argument that lesser population size equals prosperity, North Korea should be roaring over the Philippines GDP per capita income right now. Obviously that’s not the case.
    For short – the RH bill’s attempt to connect overpopulation with poverty is quite a stretch. The facts show that the position is not defensible. Therefore am not buying the assertion that overpopulation causes poverty
    why look far on to other countries to make decisions for this country?
    why compare statistics when we have our own statistics to compare it with.

    just look around.

    your own neighborhood can paint you a good picture.

    it is just a matter of supply and demand.
    productivity and consumption.
    availability of income generating jobs.
    also relative family income capacity.
    and finally---awareness of moral and social responsibility

    to survive with a decent and normal lifestyle in the city--
    you need P5000 a month per person. (that amount could be debatable but just humor me on this)
    that amount is enough to get you a warm bed to sleep on, food on the table everyday
    and all the necessities like health services including education.

    exampleA:
    if you earn P10,000 a month as a teacher and your wife is also a teacher getting the same salary.
    you then as a family earns P20,000 a month.
    this means you can only afford to have two children.
    (the key word here is "afford".)


    exampleB:
    but for example you have 5 children (the average is 6 for filipinos) and the parents are of the same income as example A--.
    your income will be divided by 7 individuals
    20,000/7 equals almost P3000.

    comparing example A and B, familyB has P2000 peso less per person than family A.
    so family B will not be able to afford all the things family A has.
    that includes education and health services.

    if family B could not afford to send all their kids to school, then how will their kids go to school then?
    that is when family B pass their burden to the society.
    they will then ask the government to spend money for them to send their kids to school.
    if family b could not afford their medical and health expense, they then go to the government and ask for free medical services (another burden to the government and the society in the whole)

    so you see?
    the more you have children, the bigger chance that you will pass your burden to the society.

    so, to say that poverty is not caused by over population--
    is an example of being socially irresponsible.

  10. #150

    Default Re: Poverty is not caused by overpopulation

    Quote Originally Posted by omniknight View Post
    Di lng gud ta pataka ug generalize gud..

    Di man ko Katoliko pero against ko aning RH bill.

    Agree ko nga naay mga taw sa Simbahan nga gusto ma ignoranti ang taw pero dili sila tanan.

    Unya dili pud about aning RH bill. Some of them are standing by their facts and logic and is trying their best to inform the people about how evil and maniac and stupid this Bill is.

    Katong mga taw sa simbahan nga wala ra nag pakabana ani nga Bill, mao to ang mga taw nga gusto ma ignoranti ang publiko.

    Unsa-on..
    Can you explain to us why you are against the bill? Also, please state the articles in the bill that you disagree with so we will know nga you actually read it before making a stand. Please also let us know which provisions in the bill are so Evil and Maniacal.
    Last edited by vipvip68; 03-10-2011 at 08:46 AM.

  11.    Advertisement

Similar Threads

 
  1. Replies: 90
    Last Post: 10-09-2012, 01:38 PM
  2. Government is not the reason why Philippines can't improve
    By retrievern15 in forum General Discussions
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 05-21-2010, 05:59 AM
  3. Government is not the reason why Philippines can't improve
    By retrievern15 in forum Politics & Current Events
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 05-17-2010, 10:12 AM
  4. America is NOT the Best Place to live after all.
    By LytSlpr in forum Destinations
    Replies: 126
    Last Post: 09-08-2008, 10:26 PM
  5. Is suicide the answer to our LOVE problem?
    By tinta in forum "Love is..."
    Replies: 452
    Last Post: 08-10-2006, 12:02 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
about us
We are the first Cebu Online Media.

iSTORYA.NET is Cebu's Biggest, Southern Philippines' Most Active, and the Philippines' Strongest Online Community!
follow us
#top