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    Quote Originally Posted by bahiista View Post
    Happy new year to all...

    Bro if mo quote ka ug verse please check the whole passage, to whom gi istorya ang verse ug ngano gi istorys ang verse relating to the whole passage.

    kanang imo 1Pet 3:20 pls read from 18-20..

    18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
    20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    Here,The example of Christ is proposed as an argument for patience under sufferings, the strength of which will be discerned if we consider the several points contained in the words; observe therefore, Jesus Christ himself was not exempted from sufferings in this life, though he had no guilt of his own and could have declined all suffering if he had pleased. The reason or meritorious cause of Christ's suffering was the sins of men: Christ suffered for sins. The sufferings of Christ were a true and proper punishment; this punishment was suffered to expiate and to make an atonement for sin; and it extends to all sin. In the case of our Lord's suffering, it was the just that suffered for the unjust; he substituted himself in our room and stead, and bore our iniquities. He that knew no sin suffered instead of those that knew no righteousness.

    "longsuffering of God" doesn't imply that God has problems.
    talking about longsuffering, here's the meaning bro..

    Longsuffering is love on trial. It enables you to forbear and forgive others (Colossians 3:13). As with the other manifestations of spiritual fruit, you can't produce it in yourself. The ability to be longsuffering comes from the Holy Spirit (Colossians 1:11) and by loving God's law. (Psalm 119:165)

    Longsuffering is also be referred to as patience. Patience is being mild, gentle, and constant in all circumstances. The real test of patience is not in waiting, but in how one acts while he or she is waiting. A person who has developed patience will be able to put up with things without losing his or her temper. Scripture tells us in James 1:4 "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting (lacking) nothing." Reaching this point is definitely a process which takes a lot of practice.

    About 1 Cor 3 it speaks about Love, what is real love, it doesn't speak about problems bro.
    have a good day.
    sa tanang mga verses nga imong gihatag bro, wala bitawy nakasuwat nga naay problema ang Ginoo (word for word). pero kung ato lang untang lawman ug maayo ang atong pagsabot, God is Love. Nahigugma ang Ginoo sa tawo. bisan pag dautan ang usa ka tawo, nahigugma gihapon ang Ginoo nimo. so kung ang Ginoo nakahibaw nga kanang tawhana masilutan sa impyerno, dili diay Siya mamroblema? wala lang diay concern ang Ginoo kung maunsa ra ang tawo?

    kung mao nay inyong pagsabot sa Ginoo aw dili diay siya Love wala man diay paki kung maimpyerno ang tawo or dili...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    sa tanang mga verses nga imong gihatag bro, wala bitawy nakasuwat nga naay problema ang Ginoo (word for word). pero kung ato lang untang lawman ug maayo ang atong pagsabot, God is Love. Nahigugma ang Ginoo sa tawo. bisan pag dautan ang usa ka tawo, nahigugma gihapon ang Ginoo nimo. so kung ang Ginoo nakahibaw nga kanang tawhana masilutan sa impyerno, dili diay Siya mamroblema? wala lang diay concern ang Ginoo kung maunsa ra ang tawo?

    kung mao nay inyong pagsabot sa Ginoo aw dili diay siya Love wala man diay paki kung maimpyerno ang tawo or dili...
    Nganong mag problema man ang ginoo nga gusto man sa tawo nga ma impyerno siya (kana kung naay impyerno), makabuot ba diay ang ginoo ana? Pag Chur bro uy!!!

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    walay place nga gigikanan ang Ginoo except GOD HIMSELF which is EVERLASTING bro kay when you talk about place it is bound by space and time and GOD is not bound by space and time. asa ang Ginoo? GOD IS EVERYWHERE and GOD IS THE SOURCE OF EVERYTHING and there is no separation from this and that! GOD IS WITHIN AND WITHOUT AND GOD IS HERE AND NOW FOR NOW IS ETERNITY!!! Ikaw asa man ang Ginoo nimo brod? HAPPY NEW YEAR BRO!
    God is everywhere? sure ka?

    ato kuno nang examinon ang imong giingon kung everywhere ba.

    tubaga akong pangutana: ang impyerno lugar na siya or dili?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Nganong mag problema man ang ginoo nga gusto man sa tawo nga ma impyerno siya (kana kung naay impyerno), makabuot ba diay ang ginoo ana? Pag Chur bro uy!!!
    unya gusto diay sa Ginoo nga ang tawo maimpyerno? kahibaw ka ug unsay gusto sa Ginoo sa tawo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    unya gusto diay sa Ginoo nga ang tawo maimpyerno? kahibaw ka ug unsay gusto sa Ginoo sa tawo?
    Para nimo asa mana dapit ang impiyerno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    God is everywhere? sure ka?

    ato kuno nang examinon ang imong giingon kung everywhere ba.

    tubaga akong pangutana: ang impyerno lugar na siya or dili?
    ANG IMPIYERNO PARA NAKO DILI LUGAR KUN DILI USA KANA KA ESTADO (A state of being ) NGA BISAN KARON MAKA EXPERIENCE KA UG IMPIYERNO! HELL AS A PLACE (SPACE AND TIME) DOES NOT EXIST!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Para nimo asa mana dapit ang impiyerno?
    matod sa bible, ang impyerno is a place for eternal punishment. unya gusto diay sa Ginoo bro nga ma impyerno ang tawo?

    hmmmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    ANG IMPIYERNO PARA NAKO DILI LUGAR KUN DILI USA KANA KA ESTADO (A state of being ) NGA BISAN KARON MAKA EXPERIENCE KA UG IMPIYERNO! HELL AS A PLACE (SPACE AND TIME) DOES NOT EXIST!!!
    so dili diay ka mutuo bro nga naay punishment ang Ginoo sa mga tawo nga dautan?

    relax lang bro ayaw ka highblood...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    matod sa bible, ang impyerno is a place for eternal punishment. unya gusto diay sa Ginoo bro nga ma impyerno ang tawo?

    hmmmmm...
    Define place kuno bro? kay naghisgot man ka ug place for eternal punishment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    so dili diay ka mutuo bro nga naay punishment ang Ginoo sa mga tawo nga dautan?

    relax lang bro ayaw ka highblood...
    Ka relax nako naa gani ko diri sa banyo nalibang with my laptap! GOD DOES NOT PUNISH NOR REWARD. WE PUNISH AND REWARD OURSELVES BY THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR ACTIONS! (LAW OF KARMA OR LAW OF CAUSE AND EFFECT)

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