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    ^to answer that question, seeing a spirit or soul will not suffice coz it might not be a human spirit, you have to see the spirit getting out of the human body to know if it resides in the body or not. i haven't seen that happening to others. but based on experience, the more apt word would be attached. the spirit is not boxed inside the body but attached to it, particularly on the solar plexus area, i think, since this is where you usually feel the sucking sensation when you go back in.

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    Miyay: Did you read, Bhagavad Gita: "it's feeling and philosophy"? I think your definition is closely to that of his, Or was it "2.17"...

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    Why we have to see an immaterial thing through material perspectives, isn't that irrational?....
    can a biologist could give constructive and complete explanation of the phenomena that occurs in the outer space......what do you think?........

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    Sir murag pareha2 og sitwasyon ni Leibniz kato iyang monads nga immaterial pero mao daw nag.compose anang material nga butang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Miyay: Did you read, Bhagavad Gita: "it's feeling and philosophy"? I think your definition is closely to that of his, Or was it "2.17"...
    no, sir. i research unya na nako. mao ba na bible sa hinduism? pareha mi definition? cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Why we have to see an immaterial thing through material perspectives, isn't that irrational?....
    can a biologist could give constructive and complete explanation of the phenomena that occurs in the outer space......what do you think?........
    hehehe...this reminds me of a student in an online course asking if we could video the obe. the moderators said that we don't have that kind of technology yet. another opinion based on experience, the spirit has a mass coz when you pass through walls or material things you feel a density, its like passing through air, you don't feel it much but it's there. like a pulse.

    there's another thread for obe/astral chuva.

    sorry for the OTs, mr. bp

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Question is, does anyone seen a spirit or a soul? Then we have an agreement that IT resides in the flesh.

    Have you seen your mind sir?
    can you touch it?
    can you taste it?
    can you feel it?
    then we have an agreement that IT resides in the flesh or perhaps in the brain
    Last edited by Lovely Charm; 09-12-2009 at 02:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    read this somewhere sa Theosophical digest-

    The idea that their is a soul or that their is no soul are both hypothesis.
    The intercourse between pure spirit & crudest matter brings forth a child called "soul"

    Let me add Ms Charm
    ideas that will be shared are for consideration only-

    As to spirit, occultism teaches that,,Matter is but Spirit on the lowest plane, and spirit we are told, is but Matter on the highest, hence the old axiom "As above so below"

    All is spirit and these differentiations are but the products of finite mind.

    The word "spiritual" does not refer to religious matters, so called.
    All activity w/c drives the human being forward towards some form of development-
    physical, emotional, ,mental, intuitional, social-if its in advance of his present state,,is essentially spiritual in nature & is indicative of the livingness of the inner divine entity.

    As to the 5 senses and the SELF (Soul)

    The senses might be defined as those organs or media whereby man becomes aware of his surroundings.
    means whereby he makes investigation on the plane of the gross physical, the means whereby he buys his experience, discovers that w/c he requires to know, whereby he becomes aware, & whereby he expands his consciousness.

    Occultism teaches that the whole object of the senses is to reveal the NOT-SELF, & to enable the SELF therefore to differentiate between the real & the unreal.

    Ordinarily the soul is defined as... a word to express the sum total of the psychic nature-the vital body, the emotional nature & the mind stuff, but it is also more than that.

    Occultism teaches that the soul therefore, is neither spirit nor matter, but is the realtion between them.
    The soul is another name for the Christ principle, whether in nature or in man.
    The soul is the CONSCIOUS FACTOR in all forms, the source of that awareness w/c all forms registers & of that responsiveness to surrounding group conditions w/c the forms in every kingdom of nature demonstrate.
    The soul is the perceiving entity produced through the union of Father-Spirit & Mother-Matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    Let me add Ms Charm
    ideas that will be shared are for consideration only-

    As to spirit, occultism teaches that,,Matter is but Spirit on the lowest plane, and spirit we are told, is but Matter on the highest, hence the old axiom "As above so below"

    All is spirit and these differentiations are but the products of finite mind.

    The word "spiritual" does not refer to religious matters, so called.
    All activity w/c drives the human being forward towards some form of development-
    physical, emotional, ,mental, intuitional, social-if its in advance of his present state,,is essentially spiritual in nature & is indicative of the livingness of the inner divine entity.

    As to the 5 senses and the SELF (Soul)

    The senses might be defined as those organs or media whereby man becomes aware of his surroundings.
    means whereby he makes investigation on the plane of the gross physical, the means whereby he buys his experience, discovers that w/c he requires to know, whereby he becomes aware, & whereby he expands his consciousness.

    Occultism teaches that the whole object of the senses is to reveal the NOT-SELF, & to enable the SELF therefore to differentiate between the real & the unreal.

    Ordinarily the soul is defined as... a word to express the sum total of the psychic nature-the vital body, the emotional nature & the mind stuff, but it is also more than that.

    Occultism teaches that the soul therefore, is neither spirit nor matter, but is the realtion between them.
    The soul is another name for the Christ principle, whether in nature or in man.
    The soul is the CONSCIOUS FACTOR in all forms, the source of that awareness w/c all forms registers & of that responsiveness to surrounding group conditions w/c the forms in every kingdom of nature demonstrate.
    The soul is the perceiving entity produced through the union of Father-Spirit & Mother-Matter.

    wow, Thanks Sir Flying Fish, I learned something......

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    Some synonyms for the "soul"

    The Ego(not the ego of modern psychology), the higher self, the spiritual self, the one, the inner ruler,the god w/n, the real man, the christ principle, the angel of the presence, the triangles, the watcher, the beholder, the watcher, the agnishvattas, the onlooker

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