View Poll Results: Covid-19 vs Duterte - Prepared or Not?

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    6 31.58%
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    13 68.42%
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  1. #141

    There is a hidden war underlying this pandemic. Big Pharma like Gilead have big bucks staked on their antiviral drugs like Remdesivir while others have bet big-time on vaccines or antibodies. Vaccines/antibodies will take time, as both will have to go through multi-phase clinical trials to test for safety and efficacy. Remdesivir is a new drug that was designed to fight Hepatitis C, Ebola and Marburg but failed its purpose. Now, it's been revived by Gilead (and proponents like NIH head Tony Fauci) to fight Covid-19. Fauci called Remdesivir "very promising" as it was reportedly shown to decrease recovery time for Covid patients from 15 to 11 days (from a study sponsored by Gilead...talk about conflict of interest).

    Who are these pharmaceutical giants up against? The cocktail of Hydroxychloroquine (or HCQ) and Zinc (and sometimes with Azithromycin to combat secondary infections). Compared to Remdesivir which costs over $1,000 a pop, the HCQ cocktail cost pennies (i.e. very cheap). Additionally, HCQ has been around since the 1950s and the WHO actually recommended its use in the fight against malaria. Since then HCQ use has been extended to fight Rheumatoid Arthritis and auto-immune diseases like Lupus...and perhaps many others. It's safety profile is very well known. As long as you don't overdose and don't take this for prolonged periods of time, the possibility of side effects are very, very miniscule.

    Fast forward to April 2020, right after Trump called HCQ "very promising", all of a sudden HCQ becomes lethal and ineffective. Medical journals like the New England and Lancet have come up with retrospective studies showing that HCQ has no benefit against Covid-19 and in fact they claim it results in higher mortality. Lancet in particular have been surprisingly political in their disapproval of Trump's handling of the pandemic (even to the surprise of a contributor from the typical anti-Trump CNN who noted that it's highly unusual for a medical journal to be issuing political comments). Both the New England and Lancet have based their studies on HCQ from a shady database company called Surgisphere. More than 180 doctors/scientists/medical professors have since questioned the Lancet study, which had halted the clinical trials of HCQ on Covid-19 patients as per WHO directive. Lancet study claimed to have covered over 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in 6 continents. And they did this in the span of a month! The company that provided the data, Surgisphere, wouldn't reveal the names of the hospitals they got their data from. You have to check the Lancet data out to see how ridiculous the data is. Dr. Didier Raoult tweeted this glaring statistic.

    Medical journals have reportedly claimed that they have been getting pressures from big Pharma to get studies out that meet their agenda. In this case, HCQ was the target. Why?

    The use of HCQ in this pandemic started in China. A doctor in one local hospital noticed that Lupus patients were not getting Covid-19. The one thing that Lupus patients take is HCQ. Additionally, during the first SARS outbreak (2002-2004), the NIH itself announced the laboratory study that showed HCQ (in their own words) "stopped SARS dead in its tracks"; this was in vitro. So, it makes sense that doctors started trying various HCQ cocktails on Covid-19 patients to see what works. Dr. Didier Raoult (the French infectious disease expert) was among the first to announce success in using HCQ + Azithromycin to treat Covid patients. He had 92% recovery rate in 1,600+ patients using his regimen. The other one was Dr. Vladimir Zelenko from upstate New York who treated 600 patients using HCQ + Zinc + Azithromycin and had 95% recovery rate.

    The key for HCQ cocktail in defeating Covid-19 is early treatment, according to proponents like Dr. Zelenko and Dr. Didier Raoult. For the first 5 days of getting your symptoms, Sars Cov19 virus count in your body is relatively stable. On the 6th/7th day, the virus spreads like a wildfire and your body's immune system responds wildly, causing the dreaded "cytokine storm" where your immune system begins kills you. To put simply, if you have fever, some cough and you've lost your sense of smell/taste....unless proven otherwise, assume you have Covid-19 and take the Zelenko regimen.

    The way HCQ and Zinc fights Covid-19 is by stopping viral replication. If you stop viral replication, the viral count remains low and your body's immune system should be able to kill the virus. Covid-19 cannot replicate itself. It needs to hijack your cell, use your cellular replication machinery (i.e. Ribosomes) to replicate itself. Somehow, either through bio-engineering by China or through natural mutation, Covid-19 was able to bind to ACE-2 receptors in the human cell wall, unlock it and then enter the cell.

    What HCQ does is prevent this entry into the cell. And if you're late and the virus has already entered the cells, HCQ can still play a role. HCQ is a Zinc ionophore, meaning that HCQ opens a channel for Zinc to enter the cell and fight the virus. Zinc is known to stop viral replication. You can see how this 1-2 punch from HCQ + Zinc can neutralize Covid-19...IF YOU TREAT EARLY. If you treat late, it's like trying to use fire extinguisher on a house that's already burning wildly and then saying that fire extinguishers do not work and results in more deaths.

    Many, many people have reported amazing recoveries (as in with 24 hours of taking HCQ+Zing with or without Azithromycin) like Democrat congresswoman from Michigan Karen Whitsett...there's also the case of Dr. Wang whom Larrazabal said was treated with the HCQ cocktail.

    Imagine 92-95% recovery rate which is common rate found in retrospective studies from France (Raoult) and US (Zelenko). Plus, countries like India, Spain, Russia and Brazil which all have defied the WHO directive to stop HCQ administration. No wonder Big Pharmaceutical companies feel threatened. Who would need their vaccines or new antiviral drugs if we have HCQ (cheap and has been around for over 50 years) giving 92-95% recovery rate? Very few. These companies would suffer huge losses if HCQ + Zinc become standard treatment.

    We are a poor country. Have the common sense to know that we can't afford these $1000 drugs or expensive new vaccines. The clinical trials on HCQ (should be with Zinc) should continue, so we can get to the bottom of this. The mainstream media has gone berserk over Trump and they've gone too far to the LEFT. How else can you explain illegal immigrants now being called migrants? How else can you explain if you say there are only two genders, you'd be called right-wing? Nowadays, they're even having these preferred pronouns. This is getting out of hand. The LEFT is driving this world to h-e-l-l in a handbasket.
    Last edited by hitch22; 06-02-2020 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    Post proof that you aren't fat, diabetic and hypertensive. I'll wait. Imgur is free.

    You're so hung up on that abias-cbn issue, ngano man artista ka? That corporation should never see the light of day ever again.


    The rest of the world is saying there is a pandemic —> You mean Normiebook and Twatter.

    Go outside and visit your local community if there really is a pandemic going on. I know there's none. I haven't worn a mask except when I get inside a meat shop because they won't let me in without wearing one. Walay social distancing diri sa mekado intawn, dodoy. Ang Carbon ray ni suway ana wa gihapon mag silbi. Basin daghan kag maid diha kay sila ra imo papaliton or kwartahan ka kay ka afford ka magpa lalamove sa imo groceries. Kaming mga ultimo ra, mangunay lang gihapon mi. At least I'm enjoying freedom for almost two weeks now here in northern Cebu. The beach is so nice, peaceful and clean with only a handful of people in sight. Libre pa gyud entrance. I kinda wish the Cebu City totalitarian lockdown will continue forever.

    The global pandemic psyop failed so now they moved the goalpost to race wars. The entire Western hemisphere is crumbling because some dindu nuffin nignog pornstar died off the knees of some kike police after opening a can of worms from that Ahmaud Arbery (Armed Robbery) case. It was degeneracy that brought Rome into its own de-construction from within despite 500 years of hegemony. If the US government doesn't do anything to stop their riots, history will repeat itself and to me, that is a good thing.

    Whites will be the minority from now on — screencap this.

    Also, Hong Kong failed. Taiwan Nambah Wan is on their way to annexation. NZ, being the first of the 5 Eyes to join China's Belt and Road initiative is a telltale sign of the massive success of China's expanding economic influence to the South Pacific. OZ is also itching to sign the trade. Nearly every single country in Asia will be coerced to be on daddy Xi's side now. Aren't you happy that Asia is finally going to drop a shift in cultural capitalism and will soon claim a much larger geopolitical territory?!! If yes, then we are bros. If not, then go live in the biggest post-modern 3rd World shithole called United States of Amerimutts.



    Bai, ang topic ba kay DUTERTE vs. COVID-19, nganong bisan unsa naman lang imong mga gipang post?

    Unya imo pa gyud ko papicturon sa akong kaugalingon? Are you sane?

    Ingna ngadto si Gwen Garcia bai nga walay Pandemic kamoy pagsabot, kay wala man kaha, siya man ang nag lockdown sa whole province. Ang Sweden bai, ang architect sa ilang approach ani, has stated nga basin nasayop sila sa ilang approach.

    Ngano obsessed ka sa FAT or mga Tambok? Naa kay kalagot sa mga tambok? Discrimination naman nang imoha, and that is not allowed here in Istorya.net.

    All the while imong mga posts mura nakag kinsa nga datu diha, mo ingon pakang naa kay business, kahuman mo kalit lang kag ingon karon nga Ultimo ka nga mangunay raka? Unsa man gyud?

    You don't know me and you didn't even have the slightest idea ug kinsa ko kahuman mo judge dayon kang tambok ko, all these and all that with all the maids?

    I sense some kind of a complex here, inferiority complex? Mobu ka nga tawo? Just asking.

    You are not attacking the argument, you are attacking the person. That is plain and simple out of context and against the rules here.

    Let us focus on the topic and stop with the nonsense, I have just have enough with your out of these world rants and discriminatory insults to other posters here.

  3. #143
    does anybody prepared for the pandemic? I think no one is prepared for it. 7 years ago I think naay gipasaka si Late Miriam Santiago w/c is "Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act." but morag pending pa ni karun. Naa unta tay reference or shall we call it hapsay unta ta karun?? I don't know. Sa tinuod anay lang wala ta magka gubot sa pandemic, nagkagubot ang mga taw tungod sa SAP, Cash assistance sa DOLE or the SBWS etc.. which is mao jud ni ang issue karun dri sa pilipinas. Now if you ask me prepared ba atung gobyerno? DILI. Kung sa banda pa SYSTEM OF A DOWN.

  4. #144
    is the country Philippines prepared sa pandemic? Simple answer is No. Now the real question is what can we as individual do or react to this mess? Or is there really a pandemic? Or if there is one - is it really that Killer pandemic? so many questions... better go back to the Sh*t hole I came from.
    Last edited by yhokz101; 06-12-2020 at 04:05 PM. Reason: wrong choice of words

  5. #145
    na solved na man ang pandemic diri sa pinas, its just backlog cases ilang gipang post...

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by slakker View Post
    na solved na man ang pandemic diri sa pinas, its just backlog cases ilang gipang post...
    I don't think its backlog cases mostly as there are still community transfer.. see the graph as reported in below.
    But mas ok nalang kay majority are on mild symptoms or no symptoms at all.





    https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...vrsn=57b0a4b_2

  7. #147
    This just in: WHO stops hydroxychloroquine arm of the Solidarity Trial, claiming that both the Oxford's Recovery trial and their very own Solidarity trial has shown HCQ to be "ineffective".

    This prompted an immediate response from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS): Researchers Overdosing COVID-19 Patients on Hydroxychloroquine. AAPS notes the following:

    1) Tests for HCQ was given to seriously ill hospitalized patients. Late in the disease, antivirals are of little help since patients are dying of organ damage and blood clots due to immune overreaction. SARS-Cov-2 is also known to sometimes infect the heart and cause arrythmias; so, when the disease has progressed so much, there's little you can do about it.

    2) Doses of HCQ in the Recovery Trial and the Solidarity Trial are four times over the recommended dose; this means that they're overdosing their test subjects with HCQ in order to obtain a negative result.

    3) The Brazilian study published in JAMA (which showed...no surprise here...that HCQ didn't work and caused more harm) is now being investigated by government authorities for overdosing seriously ill patients with Chloroquine.

    AAPS concludes with this statement: "How can we trust the established authorities or prestigious journals when, in this perilous time, trials of an available, inexpensive, long-established drug appear to be designed to fail, while risking the lives of their subjects through deliberate or negligent drug overdoses?"

    Remember the fraudulent Lancet study which was retracted because over a hundred doctors and scientists questioned the data which was found to be cooked up. Be careful of these negative studies on HCQ cropping up in mainstream media. Pharmaceutical companies don't want to see their investments ruined by a 60+ years old cheap drug, so they try to smear HCQ through medical journals. WHO discredits HCQ to make Trump look bad in an election year. Why? Could it be because Trump withdrew funding to it? Powerful motives, political and financial, exists. The whole world suffers because of this.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    Post proof that you aren't fat, diabetic and hypertensive. I'll wait. Imgur is free.

    You're so hung up on that abias-cbn issue, ngano man artista ka? That corporation should never see the light of day ever again.


    The rest of the world is saying there is a pandemic —> You mean Normiebook and Twatter.

    Go outside and visit your local community if there really is a pandemic going on. I know there's none. I haven't worn a mask except when I get inside a meat shop because they won't let me in without wearing one. Walay social distancing diri sa mekado intawn, dodoy. Ang Carbon ray ni suway ana wa gihapon mag silbi. Basin daghan kag maid diha kay sila ra imo papaliton or kwartahan ka kay ka afford ka magpa lalamove sa imo groceries. Kaming mga ultimo ra, mangunay lang gihapon mi. At least I'm enjoying freedom for almost two weeks now here in northern Cebu. The beach is so nice, peaceful and clean with only a handful of people in sight. Libre pa gyud entrance. I kinda wish the Cebu City totalitarian lockdown will continue forever.

    The global pandemic psyop failed so now they moved the goalpost to race wars. The entire Western hemisphere is crumbling because some dindu nuffin nignog pornstar died off the knees of some kike police after opening a can of worms from that Ahmaud Arbery (Armed Robbery) case. It was degeneracy that brought Rome into its own de-construction from within despite 500 years of hegemony. If the US government doesn't do anything to stop their riots, history will repeat itself and to me, that is a good thing.

    Whites will be the minority from now on — screencap this.

    Also, Hong Kong failed. Taiwan Nambah Wan is on their way to annexation. NZ, being the first of the 5 Eyes to join China's Belt and Road initiative is a telltale sign of the massive success of China's expanding economic influence to the South Pacific. OZ is also itching to sign the trade. Nearly every single country in Asia will be coerced to be on daddy Xi's side now. Aren't you happy that Asia is finally going to drop a shift in cultural capitalism and will soon claim a much larger geopolitical territory?!! If yes, then we are bros. If not, then go live in the biggest post-modern 3rd World shithole called United States of Amerimutts.



    ok ra ka kol?

  9. #149
    i think highly likely mabalik ang ECQ status sa tibuok cebu next month. let's see ug tinuod ba ang sources. pero ug akoy pangutan.on, dli gyd sustainable ning approach. paeta. magsalig ang mga taw sa ayuda.

    naa rabay mureklamo nga sig pangutang ang pinas, pero dli sd ganahan patas.an ang tax. taymsa ha. klarohon ta daw na b. hahaha.

    but i think i can empathize with them where they're coming from ana nga paminsar nga cynical na padung, dli sd gyd kasaligan ning gitunolan sa mga funds.
    Last edited by gibra'al; 06-23-2020 at 08:24 PM.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by gibra'al View Post
    i think highly likely mabalik ang ECQ status sa tibuok cebu next month. let's see ug tinuod ba ang sources. pero ug akoy pangutan.on, dli gyd sustainable ning approach. paeta. magsalig ang mga taw sa ayuda.

    naa rabay mureklamo nga sig pangutang ang pinas, pero dli sd ganahan patas.an ang tax. taymsa ha. klarohon ta daw na b. hahaha.

    but i think i can empathize with them where they're coming from ana nga paminsar nga cynical na padung, dli sd gyd kasaligan ning gitunolan sa mga funds.
    cebu city ra siguro, ayaw na tawn i-apil ang province maluoy mo...

    complacency and lack of discipline + weak leadership (of cebu city) is a recipe for disaster...

    curious gyud ko, who's calling the shots in cebu city before cimatu intervened? asa ang mayor? mas naa lagi kisaw si dino... na overpower ang mayor's office sa OPAV?

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