Second Look on Islam

[rcruman]

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nag tuga tuga na pod ay...
basin ikaw ang gagamit ug pirated nga bibliya...supal pal ka karon...patuga tuag ka ug tubag...
wa jud siguro ka kabasa sa bible noh? or pirated jud siguro to imong bible.
sigaha kuno imong mata kung mobasa ka ug bible...
tan-awa ng Matthew ug Luke, kabantay ka anang genealogy ni Hesus? bisan contradictory na sila but it proves nga gikan siya sa lahi sa mga Judeo...ug ang mga Judeo ang relihiyon nila mao ang JUDAISM sopal pal number one naka...naa pa ay...
nay basaha ni Mr. bible expert...Luke2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
Lev.12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Gen.17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

ang imo basehan ang pagkatuli niya?
pangutan-on tika, sa dihang gituli siya naa ba siyay buot ato?
iya ba kagustuhan nag tulion siya?

mutuo ba ka nga naay mga apostle or alagad si Jesus nga Pisot?

tan-awa kung dili ka tuli dili ka part sa Abrahamic covenant nga gi padayon ngadto hangtud kang Moses(Judaism).
gi tuli si Hesus wala? hala basaha ang Luke katong akong gi post. Gi tuli noh....hahahaha nganung gituli? hala basaha ang mga verses...kasabot ka ana Mr. Bible Expert? Judeo si Hesus o dili? hahaha JUDEO meaning follower sa Judaism. Supal pal number 2....

bro basaha ni igso,

11If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Hebrews 7:11-12

kahibalo baka nga lahi ang tuli ang gitudlo ni Jesus, dili sa unod sa ato pagkatao kungdi sa kasingkasing.


ako usbon, sa dihang gituli si JESUS, kabubut-on ba to niya? siya ang nisunod ato?
og iya ba giingnan iya parents nga "TULIA KO NINYO KAY DILI NAKO SUPAKON ANG LAW"?

ok gud...BOGO naka based sa akong mga supal pal nimo.
gituman oi. wala na pod ka kabasa? sige ron tubag napod kay sopal pal napod ka.
intawn kalayo sa ponto....unsaon na supal pal man gud siya sa katong MARK nga verse nga dili kuno hugaw ang tanang mosulod sa baba? hahahahaha...

bro ayaw palabig hudyaka basin matuk-an ka sa tumang kalipay nga palaw.
basaha ni ang mark 7:19 balik og ayaw putla.

19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?


kasbot ka og ALL MEAT?
MEAT ba ang BABOY or DILI?
gawas nalang kung vegetable ang baboy sa inyoha kay dili nako mutubag.

kamo ra ba dili mo mokaon ug dugo dugo noh? so ato ba sabton kung gamiton nato imong ADD logic nga ok ra mokaon ug dugo dugo? LOLZ kay dili man kaha hugaw kung unsa ang mosulod sa baba.
gi contradict nimo si Eli hala ka....supal pal napod.
therefore i conclude nga BOGO ka sa bible.

food ba ang dugo-dugo?
meat ba ang dugo-dugo?

wala man siguro ka kahibalo kung unsa ang MEAT.

ang hugaw nga meat ang gihugasan, pero ang hugaw nga dugo-dugo walay labot sa paghugas or paglimpyo kay dili man MEAT ang dugo, so dili namo puede kan-on ang dugo-dugo kay hugaw man og naay poison.

Ayaw patakag supalpal, basin pag supalpal nimo wala ka kahibalo nga nashoot na diay ang bola og pag-agi sa ring diha nimo nasupalpal.

Peace!

[Malic]

ang imo basehan ang pagkatuli niya?
pangutan-on tika, sa dihang gituli siya naa ba siyay buot ato?
iya ba kagustuhan nag tulion siya?

mutuo ba ka nga naay mga apostle or alagad si Jesus nga Pisot?

layoa nimo ug sabot oi. Gi tuli siya Mr.Bible expert para maapil siya sa covenant sa Ginoo. Kay kanang pagpatuli SUGO kana nga gikan sa Ginoo. Wa nimo basaha noh? klaro kaayo, nga wa jud nimo basaha...hala basaha katong nahisulat diha nga akong gi post nga makitan sa Genesis. Basaha unya palihug ko ug sabot ha.

Ang sulti didto...kung dili tuli dili part sa covenant ug kinsa may gakupot sa covenant ang mga Hudeo.

pagtoon oi.

bro basaha ni igso,

11If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Hebrews 7:11-12

kahibalo baka nga lahi ang tuli ang gitudlo ni Jesus, dili sa unod sa ato pagkatao kungdi sa kasingkasing.


ako usbon, sa dihang gituli si JESUS, kabubut-on ba to niya? siya ang nisunod ato?
og iya ba giingnan iya parents nga "TULIA KO NINYO KAY DILI NAKO SUPAKON ANG LAW"?

Salamat igso...

kabalo ka igso...kanang hebreo ang context ana lahi sa context sa atong gihisgutan. ang atong gihisgutan kung si Hesus ba Hudeo o dili. Unya akong gi pa matudan pinaagi sa pag kutlo ug mga bersikulo nga nag pamatood nga siya osa ka sumusunod sa Judaism kay bisan siya ni agi siya ug tuli nga osa ka timaan nga siya Hudeo.

ni abot naman gud intawn ka sa topic nga "lahi ang tuli nga gi tudlo ni Hesus" intawn igso pagka looy nimo naglisod ug sabot imong utok.


ikaw pisot ka u tuli? gi usab naman kaha ni Hesus ang Balaod sa pagtuli? follower man kaha ka ni Hesus? follower ka o dili? hala tugan...TULI ka o pisot? ayaw ka owaw ug tugan.

bro ayaw palabig hudyaka basin matuk-an ka sa tumang kalipay nga palaw.
basaha ni ang mark 7:19 balik og ayaw putla.

19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?


kasbot ka og ALL MEAT?
MEAT ba ang BABOY or DILI?
gawas nalang kung vegetable ang baboy sa inyoha kay dili nako mutubag.


food ba ang dugo-dugo?
meat ba ang dugo-dugo?

wala man siguro ka kahibalo kung unsa ang MEAT.

ang hugaw nga meat ang gihugasan, pero ang hugaw nga dugo-dugo walay labot sa paghugas or paglimpyo kay dili man MEAT ang dugo, so dili namo puede kan-on ang dugo-dugo kay hugaw man og naay poison.

Ayaw patakag supalpal, basin pag supalpal nimo wala ka kahibalo nga nashoot na diay ang bola og pag-agi sa ring diha nimo nasupalpal.

Peace!

oi dili daw putlon pero siya ang nipotol. LOLZ

osab ug basa ang katong first nga part ayaw putla. Kabalo ka Mr.Bible expert kanang dugo part na sa flesh sa baboy. wait sa naa koy nakitan nga dugo daw to sa baboy per0o dili lagi to siya liquid? hahaha. naratol na si RCruman kalooy. tabangi ninyo mga ADD.

nya kanang meat nga gi offer sa mga dios dios? mga meat sama sa iro, iring, ilaga? kaon mo ana? di ba gibawal man pod na sa inyo?

nya puede na siya kan-on? LOLZ ayaw algi supaka si Eli rcruman. imo rang gi contradict imong kaugalingon. pataka lang ka ug quote sa Mark. pagtoon sa lagi so Bogo jud ka sa bible.

[keeper_of _the_key]

all I can say is that Christian is good and Muslim is also good..

[SioDenz]

all I can say is that Christian is good and Muslim is also good..

ceg gud...hehehe

[butitoy]

kapoy na ug dig up...at TS..

ask lang ko..

have you read the Quran?

specifically the Al-BAQARA ( THE COW )

“And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

what can u say about this line?

wa ko ni gi google.i came from mindanao. i saw this in Muslim friend's haus a long time ago..


is that a justification for jihad?

[Malic]

kapoy na ug dig up...at TS..

ask lang ko..

have you read the Quran?

specifically the Al-BAQARA ( THE COW )

“And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

what can u say about this line?

wa ko ni gi google.i came from mindanao. i saw this in Muslim friend's haus a long time ago..


is that a justification for jihad?

During the time of Prophet Muhammad when Islam was still at its infant stage, the ruling tribes of Mecca controlled the religious and political community. The Message of Nabi Muhammad(pbuh) contradicts the teachings of their religion and the practices of the politicians. For these reasons the Muslims were persecuted. Some were killed by being stoned to death and tortured for leaving their pagan practices. When the Muslims migrated to other places to avoid persecution, the pagan Arabs would track them with intentions to sweep them out. The Muslims were left with no choice but to fight.

Thus in the Qur'an we hear the command..."fight them until persecution is no more. and religion is for Allah"...meaning...fight them until you are free to practice your religion.

[butitoy]

During the time of Prophet Muhammad when Islam was still at its infant stage, the ruling tribes of Mecca controlled the religious and political community. The Message of Nabi Muhammad(pbuh) contradicts the teachings of their religion and the practices of the politicians. For these reasons the Muslims were persecuted. Some were killed by being stoned to death and tortured for leaving their pagan practices. When the Muslims migrated to other places to avoid persecution, the pagan Arabs would track them with intentions to sweep them out. The Muslims were left with no choice but to fight.

Thus in the Qur'an we hear the command..."fight them until persecution is no more. and religion is for Allah"...meaning...fight them until you are free to practice your religion.

so what about the JIHAD? and the gooks shouting "
Allahu Akbar!"


brandishing weapons and celebrating kidnapping victory? is that also in the teaching of your religion?

is bombing innocent civilians while shouting that holy chant justifies the cause and effect of the deeds?

do this people bombed persecute ur brothers?

i think not!

[JX]

Im sorry but i really think that you got yourself confuse. Dont suggest something that isnt there coz i might think that you are suffering a serious psychological imbalance.

on reply #1410, i quoted your own statement that even with proper food preparation, pork is still dirty and unsafe to consume, yet on the same page, i quoted again, with your own copy and paste statement that "Some diseases associated with swine occur when people touch or consume raw or improperly cooked pork products,".. therefore i conclude, you contradicted thyself.. hehe..

Really hmmm now the joke is on you. Did i hear you right? Pork is not dirty? dont waste your time thinking unscientific justifications. Science have studied it and the verdict by the way, is very much available for you to read.

unscientific justifications? hehe.. verdict? just when i thought you might be right.. well ill say, the verdict is very much available for you in the meat section.. pork seems so hard to miss there.. just a thought, science might be against us this time.. hehe..

Just so you know... i dont eat human flesh.

my point in bringing up the issue of bacterias in humans is having hope of you elaborating more on your specific terms of how you define "dirty".. so i could understand more on why you keep on insisting that pork is dirty and unsafe.. hehe..

tsk tsk...signs of confusion are too obvious in you, are you running out of words to justify your bisyo? what's " how to treat cats and dogs" got to do with our discussion?

oh but its just a failed attempt on humor itself.. hehe.. the reason is that your statement was.. "We treat pigs like that of iro iring ilaga...and we dont eat pork...because it smells like sh*t. yucks!!!!".. hope you understand.. hehe..

ow sorry i dont eat durian...tsk tsk boy you are really something.

well, harmlessly ill make my own conclusions, yeah? i think you dont eat durian bec. it smells like sh*t.. just like pork.. hehe.. tsk tsk.. boy you really arent that of a something.. hehe..

an alcohol addict can never see the garbage alcohol brings in his body. No matter how you warn him about the dangers of alcoholism, the addict will always find a way out to justify his own dirty pleasure.

well blame the alcoholic.. not the pig.. hope you get the drift.. hehe..

Pigs eat their won shit, just so you know...

well just so you know, ive been to three pigerry farms and the cost of running these farms ranges from 74k, 110k, and 180k a day, for making sure they get cleaned up, get their vaccination, and making sure they dont eat their sh*t.. hehe..

[Malic]

so what about the JIHAD? and the gooks shouting "
Allahu Akbar!"


brandishing weapons and celebrating kidnapping victory? is that also in the teaching of your religion?

is bombing innocent civilians while shouting that holy chant justifies the cause and effect of the deeds?

do this people bombed persecute ur brothers?

i think not!

You can always check google if you want to subscribe for a different source.

My answer is NO.

I just hope that this is not again a reckless attempt to construct bad pictures on my religion.

[Malic]

on reply #1410, i quoted your own statement that even with proper food preparation, pork is still dirty and unsafe to consume, yet on the same page, i quoted again, with your own copy and paste statement that "Some diseases associated with swine occur when people touch or consume raw or improperly cooked pork products,".. therefore i conclude, you contradicted thyself.. hehe..



unscientific justifications? hehe.. verdict? just when i thought you might be right.. well ill say, the verdict is very much available for you in the meat section.. pork seems so hard to miss there.. just a thought, science might be against us this time.. hehe..



my point in bringing up the issue of bacterias in humans is having hope of you elaborating more on your specific terms of how you define "dirty".. so i could understand more on why you keep on insisting that pork is dirty and unsafe.. hehe..



oh but its just a failed attempt on humor itself.. hehe.. the reason is that your statement was.. "We treat pigs like that of iro iring ilaga...and we dont eat pork...because it smells like sh*t. yucks!!!!".. hope you understand.. hehe..



well, harmlessly ill make my own conclusions, yeah? i think you dont eat durian bec. it smells like sh*t.. just like pork.. hehe.. tsk tsk.. boy you really arent that of a something.. hehe..



well blame the alcoholic.. not the pig.. hope you get the drift.. hehe..



well just so you know, ive been to three pigerry farms and the cost of running these farms ranges from 74k, 110k, and 180k a day, for making sure they get cleaned up, get their vaccination, and making sure they dont eat their sh*t.. hehe..

you are getting more confuse, the more you want to explain yourself the more your feet is buried in deep swine sh*t. Because of anger you seem to missed the main point of my statement, very typical!

tsk tsk you are getting worse everyday...the fact that you are denying medical science's report on how dirty pork meat is shows that you are a hopeless case. yeah unscientific justifications, you are so full of it. i wonder why? magoba ang negosyo noh?


but what's the point of bringing up the bacterias in humans? we dont eat human flesh...i mean I dont...I dont know about you? See, you are missing the main points of my statements, and you've been at it for so many times already since the first discussion we had. Thats why ill say with all clarity that you are indeed in a confuse state.


We put labels on just about anything...pigs for us belong to the same category that of rats, cats, dogs. It is worth mentioning also that there are bacterias and diseases in rats,dogs,cats that can also be found in pork meat. People nowadays eat dogs and cats for some barbaric and uncultured reason we as Muslims treat pigs as something unclean and thats why we dont eat it.


Well if that being "arent of a something" would lead me to eat smelly food then I am happy that i am not really "arent that of something", whatever that means.

Blame the alcohol not the pig? haha...again you didnt get the drift boy... well lisod jud pasabton ang hubog, They will just open their mouths w/o thinking.


With all the care,there is still no assurance that they are free from their dirty habit of eating their own sh*t.


Have you ever heard the expression...ka baboy nimo ug batasan oi...I guess this also proves how dirty pigs are that even our own culture coined such a derogatory phrase.


This is what you should do...Give me a scientific data that proves beyond reasonable doubt that pigs are clean animals. Instead of wasting your time rambling how clean and safe pork is...because let me tell you...pork is the number one contributor sa mga tao nga naa'y highblood ug mga sakit sakit.

Still Pigs eat their won sh*t... i dont eat animals that eats their won sh*t...yaaiks...


oh by the way...just read this now. There is an ongoing research that says pigs are most healthy in a dirty environment than a clean one. But this is bad news for humans, like our friend here.