Second Look on Islam

[Malic]

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Ako raman g ask you ana friend kay naka basa ko gamay ana nyo quoran sa seminary but dili tanan sa pages lang gud, then mura man gud mu og sabadista na dili mu eat ana curious lang gud, pwede raman u can tell asa na dapit sa quoran g butang na dili mu pwede mu eat og pork dba. PEACE

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[Malic]

from your own statement you made my point clearer.. hehe..





care to analyze your statement? hehe..



well "usually" doesnt mean always.. hehe.. and again, the analogy of wild pigs and domesticated swines in a controlled environment to that of "dagang bukid" and urban pests.. hehe..



and by "hugaw" you mean? dirt? bacteria? virus? parasites?
double dead meats, be it pork, beef, poultry, etc.2x are very suitable environment/hosts for all kinds of "hugaw" in general term.. so im sorry but i dont see it supporting pork being uniquely hugaw.. hehe..



and no matter how you claim it to be.. wild boars were domesticated as hogs as far as thousands of years ago.. its diet and the environment it was raised was dramatically changed.. strict standards for commercial pork industries have been enforced..

so all in all.. it still boils down to proper food preparation and sanitation, and the consumers health that determines any bacterial, parasitic, or viral infection.. hehe..

tsk tsk...

i think you got yourself confuse

ehem...are we arguing about the word "usually" ? tsk tsk...pick the main point and dont go to senseless arguments.


dili hugaw ang pork? hahaha...basta hugawan ana jud na dili maka distinguish kung unsay hugaw ug dili.


read again my post jx...

We treat pigs like that of iro iring ilaga...and we dont eat pork...because it smells like sh*t. yucks!!!!

you are lucky im not in the mood for debate...cheers!

[JX]

tsk tsk...

i think you got yourself confuse

ehem...are we arguing about the word "usually" ? tsk tsk...pick the main point and dont go to senseless arguments.


dili hugaw ang pork? hahaha...basta hugawan ana jud na dili maka distinguish kung unsay hugaw ug dili.


read again my post jx...

We treat pigs like that of iro iring ilaga...and we dont eat pork...because it smells like sh*t. yucks!!!!

you are lucky im not in the mood for debate...cheers!

oh but i've read your posts.. yes.. i've even pasted them along with my statements.. err.. your own contradicting statements if i may say.. hehe..

i say.. spoiled pork is dirty but not pork alone.. and that goes for everything organic.. hehe..
and by hugaw, if you mean bacteria type of hugaw, its not even close to bacterias inside a human body..

well in our house, we treat cats and dogs as pets.. and boy dont we love and care for them as part of the family.. how do you treat cats and dogs in your home? is it like that of a pig? hehe..

and pork smelling like sh*t.. well thats your opinion and your smell and i respect that..
durian smells like sh*t for me also by the way, but i can manage to eat it.. hehe..

[rcruman]

Common sense rcruman...common sense...
Si Hesus osa ka follower sa Judaism...ang Judaism dili motogot nga mokaon ug baboy ang ilang myembro. Therefore si Hesus dili mo kaon ug baboy.

follower si Jesus sa Judaism? sure ka? unsa nga bible imo nabasahan? basin pirated.
bro mao gani galagot ang mga JUDIO sa iyaha kay lahi si Jesus kaysa ilaha.
basaha gani ang chapter John 9 upto 10 aron naa ka idea sa imo gipangyawit og aron naa kay sense.

basaha lagi...basta angkona kung sayop ka nga bogo ka sa bible.
mao na kanang MARK? mao na imong depensa?

yes angkonon nako kung imo gamiton ang bible og dili ang imo pagtuo.
kay usa pa wala gyud ko nanghambog nga bright ko sa bible.

gisupak ang sabbath? ka vague ani nga pangutana rcruman.
unsay pasabot nimo sa supak? gi supak kay iyang gi usab ang sabbath or gi supak kay nilapas na sa intended nga limit sa balaod?

dili diay ka kasabot og bisaya?
tugatuga man kag pakig-istorya sa bisaya nga dili man diay ka kasabot.
sige ako usbon, GITUMAN ba ni JESUS ang SABBATH? o ni observe ba siya sa SABBATH?
Kung mabasa nako sa bible nga sayop ang imo pagkuha sa verse nga nianhi siya aron tumanon ang LAW og dili supakon, muangkon ka?

wa ko kasabot ana imong hebrew kung para unsa na kay kabahin na sa sacrifice ni Hesus. Wala'y nakasuwat diha kung gi osab ba or wala ang balaod.

yes expected nga dili ka kasabot sa verse nga ako gihatag kay in the first place dili ka gusto musabot og dili gyud nimo masabtan. Kay ang pagsabot sa bible ang GINOO maoy muhatag.

ang nakabutang sa Hebrew 10 kay klaro kaayo, iya tumanon or sundon ang mga nahisulat mahitungod sa iyaha mao nga ang iya giingon nga nianhi ko aron tumanon og dili supakon.

ang mga prophecy mahitungod sa iyaha maoy iyang tumanon bisan ang iya kamatayan iya gyud tumanon.

Og angay nimo mahibaw-an igso nga dili kay makabasa kag LAW pasabot nimo dayon kay 10 commandments or sugo ni moises.

Peace!

[rcruman]

Diseases Unique to Pigs


While many domesticated animals (including cows, sheep, and poultry) are capable of infecting humans with disease, Dr. Darwish says that pigs are unique in that they "harbor almost all the diseases that [can] be transmitted from animal to man." This is, he says, "unlike other species, where each [can] transmit only some of these diseases." According to Dr. Darwish, pig diseases may be parasitic, bacterial, or viral.

"The virulence of the disease in pigs is much more than [that of] other animals,"Dr. Darwish said, explaining the difference between two strains of Taenia (tapeworm) present in both cows and pigs.

The species saginata (cow Taenia) "can be expelled through diarrhea and [can] respond well to drugs," Dr. Darwish says. The species solium (pig Taenia) "is more virulent, can resist treatment, and can't be easily washed [out] by drugs causing diarrhea. [The species] saginata sticks itself to human mucosa through suckers, while solium has [both] suckers and hooks and is carcinogenic. If it reaches the brain, spinal cord, or heart, it may be very dangerous," Dr. Darwish adds.

Some diseases associated with swine occur when people touch or consume raw or improperly cooked pork products, while other infections can be transmitted by being in close contact with pigs, drinking water contaminated with their urine, or even inhaling soil that contains particles of pig waste. It is not always obvious when a pig is ill or infected with a particular type of bacteria - thus, it is considered unwise to touch pigs or handle them without taking certain precautions (Zoonotic Disease Prevention).

At highest risk for disease are those who handle swine on a regular basis, especially those who work in farms or in slaughterhouses and those who work as veterinarians. "If we [in vet medicine] find even one [tapeworm] cyst on the carcass of a pig, we exterminate the whole [carcass]," Dr. Darwish says, highlighting the dangers of these cysts to people working in the field of animal research.

imo pud ba nabasahan kung unsang disease ang makuha kung giunsa pag luto?

mukaon kag manok? wala bay sakit ang manok nga ato makuha?

mukaon kag baka? wala bay sakit ang baka nga ato makuha?

so imo giingon nga hugaw ang baboy tungod sa sakit?

tanan bang baboy dunay sakit? dili diay ta kakita og himsog nga baboy?

Peace!

[Malic]

oh but i've read your posts.. yes.. i've even pasted them along with my statements.. err.. your own contradicting statements if i may say.. hehe..

i say.. spoiled pork is dirty but not pork alone.. and that goes for everything organic.. hehe..
and by hugaw, if you mean bacteria type of hugaw, its not even close to bacterias inside a human body..

well in our house, we treat cats and dogs as pets.. and boy dont we love and care for them as part of the family.. how do you treat cats and dogs in your home? is it like that of a pig? hehe..

and pork smelling like sh*t.. well thats your opinion and your smell and i respect that..
durian smells like sh*t for me also by the way, but i can manage to eat it.. hehe..

Im sorry but i really think that you got yourself confuse. Dont suggest something that isnt there coz i might think that you are suffering a serious psychological imbalance.


Really hmmm now the joke is on you. Did i hear you right? Pork is not dirty? dont waste your time thinking unscientific justifications. Science have studied it and the verdict by the way, is very much available for you to read.

Just so you know... i dont eat human flesh.


tsk tsk...signs of confusion are too obvious in you, are you running out of words to justify your bisyo? what's " how to treat cats and dogs" got to do with our discussion?


ow sorry i dont eat durian...tsk tsk boy you are really something.


an alcohol addict can never see the garbage alcohol brings in his body. No matter how you warn him about the dangers of alcoholism, the addict will always find a way out to justify his own dirty pleasure.

Pigs eat their won shit, just so you know...

[Malic]

imo pud ba nabasahan kung unsang disease ang makuha kung giunsa pag luto?

mukaon kag manok? wala bay sakit ang manok nga ato makuha?

mukaon kag baka? wala bay sakit ang baka nga ato makuha?

so imo giingon nga hugaw ang baboy tungod sa sakit?

tanan bang baboy dunay sakit? dili diay ta kakita og himsog nga baboy?

Peace!

pssst...ayaw lagi ug tuga tuga...

kapoy ug balik balik rcruman...basaha lang ang mga previous nako nga post.

[rcruman]

pssst...ayaw lagi ug tuga tuga...

kapoy ug balik balik rcruman...basaha lang ang mga previous nako nga post.

maayo gyud nimo mupili og issue, gitubag tika sa ibabaw bro about sa imo argument nga LAW.

Basaha sa taas.

divert dayon.

Peace!

[Malic]

follower si Jesus sa Judaism? sure ka? unsa nga bible imo nabasahan? basin pirated.
bro mao gani galagot ang mga JUDIO sa iyaha kay lahi si Jesus kaysa ilaha.
basaha gani ang chapter John 9 upto 10 aron naa ka idea sa imo gipangyawit og aron naa kay sense.

nag tuga tuga na pod ay...

basin ikaw ang gagamit ug pirated nga bibliya...supal pal ka karon...patuga tuag ka ug tubag...
wa jud siguro ka kabasa sa bible noh? or pirated jud siguro to imong bible.

sigaha kuno imong mata kung mobasa ka ug bible...

tan-awa ng Matthew ug Luke, kabantay ka anang genealogy ni Hesus? bisan contradictory na sila but it proves nga gikan siya sa lahi sa mga Judeo...ug ang mga Judeo ang relihiyon nila mao ang JUDAISM sopal pal number one naka...naa pa ay...

nay basaha ni Mr. bible expert...Luke2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Lev.12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

Gen.17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.


tan-awa kung dili ka tuli dili ka part sa Abrahamic covenant nga gi padayon ngadto hangtud kang Moses(Judaism).

gi tuli si Hesus wala? hala basaha ang Luke katong akong gi post. Gi tuli noh....hahahaha nganung gituli? hala basaha ang mga verses...kasabot ka ana Mr. Bible Expert? Judeo si Hesus o dili? hahaha JUDEO meaning follower sa Judaism. Supal pal number 2....


gusto pa ka ug number 3? wala ka kabasa nga every now and then mosulod to si Hesus sa synagogue w/c is a Jewish(followers of Judaism),say, center haron maminaw ug mga pagtulon-an sa Rabbi? tsk tsk...wala na BOGO jud ka sa bibliya.

yes angkonon nako kung imo gamiton ang bible og dili ang imo pagtuo.
kay usa pa wala gyud ko nanghambog nga bright ko sa bible.

ok gud...BOGO naka based sa akong mga supal pal nimo.

dili diay ka kasabot og bisaya?
tugatuga man kag pakig-istorya sa bisaya nga dili man diay ka kasabot.
sige ako usbon, GITUMAN ba ni JESUS ang SABBATH? o ni observe ba siya sa SABBATH?
Kung mabasa nako sa bible nga sayop ang imo pagkuha sa verse nga nianhi siya aron tumanon ang LAW og dili supakon, muangkon ka?

gituman oi. wala na pod ka kabasa? sige ron tubag napod kay sopal pal napod ka.

yes expected nga dili ka kasabot sa verse nga ako gihatag kay in the first place dili ka gusto musabot og dili gyud nimo masabtan. Kay ang pagsabot sa bible ang GINOO maoy muhatag.

ang nakabutang sa Hebrew 10 kay klaro kaayo, iya tumanon or sundon ang mga nahisulat mahitungod sa iyaha mao nga ang iya giingon nga nianhi ko aron tumanon og dili supakon.

ang mga prophecy mahitungod sa iyaha maoy iyang tumanon bisan ang iya kamatayan iya gyud tumanon.

Og angay nimo mahibaw-an igso nga dili kay makabasa kag LAW pasabot nimo dayon kay 10 commandments or sugo ni moises.

Peace!

intawn kalayo sa ponto....unsaon na supal pal man gud siya sa katong MARK nga verse nga dili kuno hugaw ang tanang mosulod sa baba? hahahahaha...

kamo ra ba dili mo mokaon ug dugo dugo noh? so ato ba sabton kung gamiton nato imong ADD logic nga ok ra mokaon ug dugo dugo? LOLZ kay dili man kaha hugaw kung unsa ang mosulod sa baba.

gi contradict nimo si Eli hala ka....supal pal napod.


therefore i conclude nga BOGO ka sa bible.

[Malic]

maayo gyud nimo mupili og issue, gitubag tika sa ibabaw bro about sa imo argument nga LAW.

Basaha sa taas.

divert dayon.

Peace!

nayabag na ang Bible expert ay nagpataka na ug storya...nagpataka na lang ug pamasangil.

nganutana man ka kung hugaw ba ang baboy ug mananap? nya kay naa naman koy tubag ana mao ng gi ingnan ka nako nga basaha lang diha akong mga tubag kay kapoy ug balik balik. taka lang ka ug yawit dah.