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  1. #131

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.


    'Gary' finally surfaces


    The man whom Malacañan said owns the voice on the other end of the controversial bugged phone calls of President Arroyo finally surfaced on Wednesday, abs-cbnNEWS.com learned.

    Edgar Ruado showed up at the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) and introduced himself as "Gary," the male voice on tape that allegedly took orders from the President to cheat and ensure her win by at least one million votes in the last elections.

    Ruado said he was one of the President's political officers in the elections and has been performing such task since she was still senator.

    "As far as I can recall, the conversations I had with the President and the first gentleman [Jose Miguel Arroyo] are normal conversations any political officer would have with his bosses," Ruado said in an affidavit he submitted to the NBI.

    Ruado said as one of President Arroyo's longest-serving political officers, he had the privilege of being called personally by the chief executive on various political concerns.

    He added that he spoke to Arroyo and her husband many times during the 2004 presidential elections.

    Ruado said he now works as chief of staff of Negros Occidental Rep. Ignacio "Iggy" Arroyo, the brother of the first gentleman.

    He said he decided to come out to disprove allegation that the tapped conversations that he had with Mrs. Arroyo was part of a grand effort to cheat in the elections.

    Ruado said he also wants to prove that the President was all the while talking to him, a political officer, and not to election commissioner Virgilio Garcillano as alleged by lawyer Allan Paguia.
    It took him almost a week to come out. And he claims he is the political officer of Iggy Arroyo.

    Kamo na lay husga kung motoo mo ani niya nga siya gyud. Ako dili ko convince siya.

  2. #132

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    Quote Originally Posted by dawn runner
    Quote Originally Posted by M@rv|n
    Quote Originally Posted by blade101
    now why would anyone want to splice an original copy of the recording?
    hmmm presentation purposes? to show that the government are not acting blind on the issue.

    guess ko lang

    dawn runner: so who do you think has the original?
    I believe atty. paguia's tape is the orig. It is he who is given the copy of the original source who is still unknown as of presstime.

    For that, I think he is more credible.
    i believe. . . i think. . .

  3. #133

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    Quote Originally Posted by M@rv|n
    Quote Originally Posted by cerebus
    i think blade got a point: how can we know that lawyer paguia is not lying?
    and how can we know that the administration is not lying too? in short who tells the truth? and nothing but the truth so help me god :mrgreen:
    atty. paguia is an ex-lawyer of the deposed president. on who's side is he now? (don't make me laugh if the answer is for the filipino people.)

    'gary' is iggy arroyo's man. on who's side is he now? (don't make me laugh if the answer is for the filipino people.)


    who do we trust?

  4. #134

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    diin man sila og pangalan anang gary? was "gary" mentioned in the conversation?

  5. #135

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    Lets review the damning portions of the tape. . .'


    Kami ni Bobby Barbers dahil parang siya kasi doon sa Lanao del Sur. Meron pa raw 27 municipalities pa.

    Alin, alin

    Meron pa raw 27 municipalities dun sa Lanao del Sur

    Hindi kasi ang kuwan dun sa Lanao del Sur, 2 presinto sa bayan, 4 na presinto sa Madalin, 1 presinto sa Capay, yun na lang.

    So bale 5.

    No. Pero presinto lang

    A precinct lang.

    Oo, wala namang 1000 e.

    Ang impression, dahil sa Columbio meron pa raw 3rd siya.

    Hindi wala na yung Columbio nakasama na nung kuwan,

    Sa tingin ko wala na rin.

    Ang South Op ang nilagay nila na merong 4000, pero kahit anu pa wala pa rin di makahabol.

    E ang Tawi-Tawi makakuha pa raw siya ng 750

    E, wala namang ano, ewan ko, wala namang ano yang Tawi-tawi.

    Kawawa naman yung bata natin.

    Alam mo, talagang inaano ko yan, pinagdududahan na ako ng nag-kuwan dun sa Lanao Sur.

    (Laughter) Anak ng puta, hay naku, kawawa naman.
    What does he mean na "inaano ko yan?" What about "pinagdududahan"? Maybe he did something why pagdududahan sya.

    Ay wala naman, ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now (garbled) to us.
    Ok sa ano? Cheating? Doctoring?

    Oo nga ho, pero mahihirapan na tayo, medyo nabuko tayo sa Lanao del Sur at hindi na makakahabol dito sa Cotabato.

    Ganun ba, baka puwede pang gawan ng paraan.
    Take note of the term used "nabuko". That relates to something fishy.

    Hindi nagma-match. May posibilidad na di magma-match kung hindi nila sinunod yung individual SOV ng mga munisipyo, pero ewan ko lang ho kung sa atin pabor o hindi kasi dun naman sa Basilan tsaka Lanao Sur, itong ginawa nila na pagpataas sa inyo hindi naman ho kuwan, maayos naman ang paggawa e.
    Eto garapalan talaga. Grabe!

    Oho. Sa Basilan ay iyon ay pahabol na naman ng mga military dun, hindi masyado marunong kasi silang gumawa e, katulad sa Sulu, Habaton. Pero hindi naman ho kinausap ko kanina yung Chairman ng Board sa Sulu, ang akin e patataguin ko na muna yung EO ng Pagundaran na para hindi siya maka-testigo ho. Nai-print na ho yung kuwan Camarines Norte, tomorrow we will present official communication dun ho sa Senate, dun sinasabing wala hong laman yung ballot box.
    Isa pa. . . Im knock out by this revelations.

    Calanguyan sa Tawi-Tawi, wala naman hong kuwan tayo dun, wala tayong ginawa dun sa Calanguyan, talo nga tayo dun, talo nga si Nur doon e.

    Oo.
    Anong "kuwan"? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

  6. #136

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    I got this observation from a blogger in PCIJ. Philippine Center of Investigative Journalism and he has a very good observation about the "altered" tape. Read . . .


    muaddib said,
    June 8, 2005 @ 10:52 am

    Hearing both mp3s already, I’ve noticed that the “altered” versions have a more consistent background noise to it that cuts across both parties talking on the line; something that is MORE believable if your taking taking into consideration a scenario where you are tapping on wireless communications.

    I’m so sad for the alleged “experts” in NBI who have supposedly analyzed the recordings that they failed to recognize this fact, since the aforementioned characteristic is something very much obvious to a common telecommunications professional.

  7. #137

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    maypa ipadala nalang na sa NBI sa US for analysis

  8. #138

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    Quote Originally Posted by tootskie
    i know this is kinda ot but i was just thinking,what if mawagtang gyud si arroyo sa malacanang?who's going to seat?another coup d'etat?human unsaon na man man ang reforms na nasugdan?do we really think na mawah gyud ang jueteng pag bago na molingkod?or is it just going to be a case of lahi na pud ang makinabang?

    am not pro gloria but i do approve sa changes na ginahimo nya sa beaureaucracy(tama spelling?) and y dont we just support the small lady and move on.....wah tay asenso ani oi,daghan au power hungry sa govt.mao ra man gihapon istoryaha if lain na molingkod sa malakanyang.it just is going to be a case of lahi na ang makinabang...
    according to our constitution, if the president is ousted due to impeachment or by way of a revolution..the VICE-PRESIDENT or the no.1 SENATOR will take her/his place...in that case it will be NOLI DE CASTRO or DRILON

  9. #139

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    ga lisud na jud tingali sila og lusot ani bisan sa ilahang kaugalingong version.

    now they have taken bunye out of the picture. they are just trying to say that the wiretapping is illegal. wala na sila sige og hisgot sa original.

  10. #140

    Default GMA poll fraud proof against FPJ bared on taped calls.

    just a propaganda

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