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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    Hi josephdc,
    On the contrary all good religions are similar in its core teachings.
    All good religions teaches the following universal values- Justice, fairness, compassion, sincerity,
    the golden rule, honesty etc.
    Yeah, I do agree sir that those are values shared by all good religions. But I think that those values are really not the core of each of the major religions. For instance, the core of Christianity is Jesus Christ. If you take away Jesus, Christianity falls apart. What remains, I think, is a shell. Yes, those values would still be there, but they wouldn't have any source or foundation. They would be empty.

    The difference actually is in the rituals, dogmas & interpretations of its own doctrines.
    Concept about god as to whether it is anthropomorphic, pantheistic, naturalistic, scientific etc
    are part of of the peripheral teachings. What really matters most is- the message & its integration to ones life. Thus any religionist might ask oneself-
    Do i really practice the inner or core teachings of my religion?

    The teaching is more important than the teacher, when we focus on the teachings we can never fail to be united, but if we focus on the teacher rest assured our sentimental human nature will always get the better of our judgement, that instead of seeing the similarities we look for the differences.

    The word is never the thing.
    Yes, I do agree that those things (doctrines, etc.) are secondary and in them we also differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Yeah, I do agree sir that those are values shared by all good religions. But I think that those values are really not the core of each of the major religions. For instance, the core of Christianity is Jesus Christ. If you take away Jesus, Christianity falls apart. What remains, I think, is a shell. Yes, those values would still be there, but they wouldn't have any source or foundation. They would be empty.
    I'm not on either side, but I guess, there are two different types of core-element for every religion, the unique-element and the universal-element.

    If I have a book and wrote it and aged around 60 or 65, it would be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    ^Indeed, and the hard part is where we swallow the dogmas and interpretations to get to those core teachings.

    bro im still diusturb w/ the word "swallow" isawilik lang siguro,he,he

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    ^amawa...

    Brutal man nang isawilik... itrapo tingale arang-arang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    ^amawa...

    Brutal man nang isawilik... itrapo tingale arang-arang.

    @ josephdoc, this is a good analogy, the differences is usually what is comfortable, either isawilik, tunlon or trapohan.

    But the similaritiy is often not appreciated,,,the common experience --JOYGASM

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    I'm not on either side, but I guess, there are two different types of core-element for every religion, the unique-element and the universal-element.

    If I have a book and wrote it and aged around 60 or 65, it would be different.
    I think these core beliefs are the "non-negotiables" of every religion.

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    All we have are the wishes and the sighs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I think these core beliefs are the "non-negotiables" of every religion.
    As I have said, there "should" be two core beliefs/ideas, the universal and the unique, the universal is shared; justive, fairness etc., but the unique; Jesus, Allah etc. is exclusive to each respective religions. This unique beliefs/ideas are the roots for each dogmatic doctrines and rituals and will never be negotiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    @ josephdoc, this is a good analogy, the differences is usually what is comfortable, either isawilik, tunlon or trapohan.

    But the similaritiy is often not appreciated,,,the common experience --JOYGASM
    Unsa man na'ng "isawilik"?

    Yeah, we share the same values, although our core beliefs may differ.

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    ^sawilik ba... kanang wala kay ika-trapo gud..

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