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    Default Laughably embarrassing. Is this supposed to be a pandemic?!


    Officials from CDC has announced a fatality rate estimate of 0.4% among the symptomatic cases and a 35% rate of asymptomatic cases among those infected, which drops the overall IFR to just 0.26% — almost exactly where Stanford researchers, led by Dr. John Ionnidis (see: page 6, post #111) pegged it a month ago.



    Below is a graph that shows that iCFR is only below half of 1%. Computation is also based on how many they estimate are infected but may not be counted as cases. The infection numbers are based on antibody test completed around the world.



    So... how did the world get into this neurotic frenzy? Well, 98% uses social media and social media turned them into a weak decadent species of homo sapien. The real life reputation of a person is automatically attributed to the number of likes in that person's fb/twitter. Gov't agent tells you to eat feces to cure Covid — sees 140k likes — eats feces next morning. That's how the deep state rolls and it's ran by names you are familiar with: Zuck, Billy, Jeff and Pichai.

    I wonder why hardware companies aren't so active in pushing this agenda, hmm..
    (•ิ_•ิ)?

    Oh and by the way, here's an interesting excerpt from China's Global Times pertaining HK annexation bill one week ago:

    The biggest pillar for Hong Kong's status as an international financial center is its role as a window to the Chinese mainland as well as its special relationship with the mainland economy.

    The special trade status given by the US is important, but is not a decisive factor to determine whether Hong Kong is a financial center or not. As long as the economy in the Chinese mainland keeps booming, Hong Kong will not decline. If the US changes its policy toward Hong Kong, that will result in a lose-lose situation. But Hong Kong will be able to adjust and maintain its prosperity with the support of the Chinese central government.

    As the US is entangled in the COVID-19 epidemic, its actual ability to intervene externally is weakening. The White House claimed it would impose sanctions on China, but the tools and resources at its disposal are fewer than those it could mobilize before the outbreak. It is only bluffing.
    The entire Western world will not follow the US. China is a huge market and the US is unable to provide enough compensation to offset the losses if Western countries become alienated from China. Values still have a strong appeal, but they cannot replace the fundamental interests of a country in pursuit of development. Besides, China has not intervened in the way of life of Western countries. Taking sides based on values at a disproportionate economic cost is not supposed to be the logic of international relations in the 21st century.
    Hahaha we're all prancing like horses right into the palm of their hands. China is the new global hegemon now. Should we let China annex the PH or not? I don't think that's a bad idea.

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    8 countries have coronavirus death rates above 10%, either due to disaster or limited testing

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...han-flu-2020-5



    As countries loosen coronavirus restrictions and businesses reopen, a crucial question informs how governments move forward: Just how deadly is COVID-19?

    The most straightforward answer may seem to be the "case fatality rate," a calculation of the number of known deaths out of the total number of confirmed cases. But it doesn't tell the full story.

    Globally, that death rate was 6.7% as of Wednesday, according to the World Health Organization; it has hovered around 7% since mid-April.

    That's a significant increase from March, when the death rate was around 3.4%. But that doesn't necessarily mean the virus has changed, since death-rate calculations depend on how many cases are confirmed by tests. The high global death rate could point to coronavirus testing limitations across the globe.

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    At an Odyssey House Louisiana (OHL) drive-through testing site, Elena Likaj takes the temperature of resident Peyton Gill, in New Orleans, Louisiana, March 27, 2020. Kathleen Flynn/Reuters
    "There is no way that we record all the cases, though we probably record most of the deaths," John Edmunds, a professor of infectious-disease modeling at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, told Business Insider in an email. "[Case fatality rates] are not very good measures, as they are more a measure of how much testing and case finding you do."


    In general, the more cases that are included in the data — including people with mild or no symptoms — the lower the death rate.

    Plus, new deaths being documented now are generally people who fell ill three to four weeks ago — when many countries' outbreaks were peaking. Because the disease progresses over a period of weeks, and because these numbers are constantly changing, the rate is not static and will continue evolving. It is not a reflection of the likelihood that any given person will die if infected.

    Why some countries have higher death rates
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    Eight countries have death rates higher than 10%: Belgium, France, Italy, Mexico, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, and the UK, according to a Johns Hopkins University database. Other places like Singapore, which has a robust testing program, have reported rates as low as 0.1%.

    A number of factors can drive death rates up. Sweden, for example, never issued a mandatory lockdown, instead asking its citizens to voluntarily maintain social distance. Experts warned early on that this strategy could lead to more death. The virus might also be reaching more elderly people there, who are more susceptible to severe illness.

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    People chat and drink in Stockholm, Sweden, April 8, 2020. AP Photo/Andres Kudacki
    High death rates could also be the result of limited testing capacity. Countries with scarce testing resources tend to prioritize the most severe cases for COVID-19 confirmation, leaving many people with mild or asymptomatic cases undetected, thus giving the appearance of an unusually high death rate. Sweden has only just expanded its testing to include those with mild symptoms.


    'COVID-19 infection is deadlier than flu'
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    Mourners carry the coffin of Valnir Mendes da Silva, 62, who died on a sidewalk in the Arara slum in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, after experiencing difficulty breathing during the coronavirus outbreak, May 18, 2020. Ricardo Moraes/Reuters
    The science and data make one thing clear: COVID-19 is far more deadly than the seasonal flu.

    A new study from the University of Washington estimated that, if all infections were known, the true death rate for Americans who show symptoms would be about 1.3%. That's far lower than what confirmed case counts suggest, but it's 13 times higher than the 0.1% death rate of seasonal flu.

    "COVID-19 infection is deadlier than flu — we can put that debate to rest," Anirban Basu, a statistician and professor of health economics who authored the study, said in a press release.

    Basu's calculation is what's known as the "infection fatality ratio," because it compares deaths to the estimated number of infections — rather than to confirmed cases. Edmunds said that infection fatality ratios are "much more stable" than case fatality rates, which fluctuate with testing capabilities.


    The death rate that Basu's team calculated aligns with earlier estimates of around 1% from experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

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    Cots are set up at a possible COVID-19 treatment site in San Mateo, California, April 1, 2020. Ben Margot/AP
    Another statistician, Dr. John Ioannidis at Stanford, found a much lower death rate in his own analysis: 0.02% to 0.4%. But many researchers critiqued that research, saying that it was based on flawed studies and left out findings that suggested higher death rates.

    But even if Ioannidis's calculation were correct, experts say that would still be no reason to treat the coronavirus like the flu.

    "COVID death totals will be much, much greater than the flu," Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at UC Irvine and an expert in flu pandemics, told The San Jose Mercury News.


    That's because populations worldwide have significant levels of immunity to the flu through annual vaccines, and some have natural immunity through exposure. That is not the case with the coronavirus.

    Between the 2013-14 and 2018-19 seasons, the number of counted annual influenza deaths ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, and the CDC's official estimates for the entire country ranged from 23,000 to 61,000.

    As of Friday, COVID-19 had killed more than 95,000 people in the US in just four months.

    "Not everyone is susceptible to the flu. Everyone is susceptible to COVID-19," Noymer said. "These flu comparisons are missing the forest for the trees."

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  3. #133
    ^^ Wow. The whole journo post from business insider lmao is this a joke? is quoted like a typical facebook dweller. How normie can this guy be? Is he Syd_M's alternate account? El Oh El. Go back to your social media echo chamber old man. Else, post something worth reading here that is free from identity politics.

    Also, don't skip pages and read back. I think you're old enough to know how to navigate online forums, or maybe boomers only know how to use facebook and instagram?! If you aren't the archetypal pinoy who's a hypertensive fat slob with diabetes, then here's one good source for you — https://www.istorya.net/forums/polit...l#post18695962. Otherwise, refrain from digging deeper, it might cause you depression.

    More importantly, you removed the content from your post in 2-15-2020 back when you had the urge to start a debate. And because of that, your credibility has fallen low already. Why should people listen to you now?

    Wanna redeem your iStorya.net integrity?
    Okay then... form an actual debate off of this: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...in-the-making/

    And after that, make a damn argument targeting this claim that has been made clear by Kyoto Medical Center, Japan:

    Health-care workers from KMC between April 10 and April 20, 2020 were collected serum samples and evaluated quantitative SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay. Participants having a history of seasonal common cold symptoms had significantly higher titer of SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody (p=0.046, p=0.046, respectively). Briefly, 1:100 diluted human serum samples were added into the 96-well microplate (coated with SARS-CoV-2 recombinant full length nucleocapsid protein) and then incubated for 30 minutes at room temperature (20-25). After washing, 100 μl HRP labeled anti-IgG tracer antibody was added into the wells and then incubated for 30 minutes under room temperature (20-25). Following the second wash cycle, 100 μl substrate was added into the wells and incubated for 20 minutes under room temperature (20-25). At last, stop solution was added into the wells to terminate the reaction.The optical density of each well was determined by a microplate reader set to 450 nm within 10 minutes. For detection of IgG, the cut off value was modified by using inner negative control. We interpreted the results as positive, borderline and negative in accordance with instruction manual.
    Five (5.4%) and 15 (16.3%) participants showed positive and borderline SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody during COVID-19 peri-pandemic period. These rates were much higher than the rates expected from situation reports of the government. Higher rates of positive and borderline antibody suggested that COVID-19 had already spread at early stage of pandemic in the southern part of Kyoto city. In Kobe city, 3.3% of outpatients showed positive SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody. By using quantitative methods, our results revealed there were more than tripled people sensitized with SARS-CoV-2 on the flip side of people with positive SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody. Given that pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 seems to be similar to SARS-CoV, most patients infected SARS-CoV-2 will express specific IgG antibody within a week to three months after infection.
    The study above is approved by the institutional review boards (approval number 20-009), YET, you will not be able to see that in your mainstream media. How come? Well, you don't have to answer that because a retarded herd of sheep don't think for themselves. They let the government do that for them.

    In addition to that, here's a recent Boston seroprevalence study:

    Prevalence of COVID-19 positivity in currently asymptomatic individuals ranged from 1.1% to 4.6%, while antibody positivity ranged from 6.3% to 13.3% by zip code.

    • East Boston: 1.1% tested positive for COVID-19, 13.3% tested positive for antibodies
    • Roslindale: 2.2% tested positive for COVID-19, 7.6% tested positive for antibodies
    • 02121 in Dorchester: 2.7% tested positive for COVID-19, 6.3% tested positive for antibodies
    • 02125 in Dorchester: 4.6% tested positive for COVID-19, 12.1% tested positive for antibodies


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    Last edited by brownie; 05-27-2020 at 05:04 PM. Reason: added more info

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    Poor guy has to divest $10 Million worth of the stock just to avoid a "conflict of interest". Even forced to donate the proceeds to cancer research.

    At the meantime...

    The aborted human cells used in vaccines come from lung tissue and are considered “abnormal” cells because they keep dividing, spreading, multiplying in the human body after being injected, and that is the definition of cancer. You can find these cancer-causing injections listed on the CDC vaccine website. These vaccines include the MMR (Measles, Mumps & Rubella), Hepatitis A & B, Chicken Pox (Varicella), Polio, and in the works now is for the novel Coronavirus or Covid-19. The company cheered in mainstream headlines, Moderna, that’s claiming to be developing a Covid-19 vaccine, is using human abortion cells to do it. This is population control and cancer breeding exposed by forensic medicine experts.
    US gov't ban on fetal tissue research blocks coronavirus treatment effort. Kim Hasenkrug, an immunologist at the National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana, has been appealing for nearly a month to top NIH officials, arguing that the pandemic warrants an exemption to a ban imposed last year prohibiting government researchers from using tissue from abortions in their work.


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    Our government acts is dependent on Data gathered by DOH, but it seems DOH data is not credible and I doubt they have a good data gathering methods and data analysts with them. Data is very important now to know exactly what is happening and how to respond but it seems like our government has not seen the importance of this. So magkanya2x lng sa ta anig amping.

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    Cebu is on MECQ. May nalang maka ginhawa nata gamay ani.


    https://sugbo.ph/2020/cebu-city-mecq-others-gcq/

    Cebu City placed under MECQ; others under GCQ
    Ram Mancelita May 28, 2020 News and Events


    On Thursday, the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Disease (IATF-MEID) released a new resolution effective from June 1 to 15, 2020.

    This resolution has placed Cebu City under modified enhanced community quarantine (MECQ) while Mandaue City, Lapu-Lapu City, and the Cebu Province are under general community quarantine (GCQ).
    CEBU CITY, Philippines — From June 1 to 15, 2020, Cebu City will shift to modified enhanced community quarantine (ECQ) while Mandaue City will transition to general community quarantine (GCQ).

    This is after the Interagency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF-MEID) classified the cities of Cebu and Mandaue as high and moderate risk areas, respectively, in its Resolution no. 40 that was approved on May 27, 2020.

    Both cities are under ECQ until May 31.

    While Cebu City will be under MECQ, the IATF said localized ECQs may still be imposed by the local government in its critical areas.


    IATF Resolution no. 40, placing Cebu City under MECQ and the rest of Central Visayas under GCQ until June 15.

    The entire Central Visayas — the provinces of Bohol, Cebu, Negros Oriental and Siquijor, and Lapu-Lapu City, will also remain under GCQ until June 15.



    Read more: https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/3...#ixzz6NkR4h22A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigor Mortis View Post
    Our government acts is dependent on Data gathered by DOH, but it seems DOH data is not credible and I doubt they have a good data gathering methods and data analysts with them. Data is very important now to know exactly what is happening and how to respond but it seems like our government has not seen the importance of this. So magkanya2x lng sa ta anig amping.
    I believe DOH has miserably failed in this test. Duque should have been fired a long time ago.

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    congrats to pdut admin for defeating cobid. wala nay ecq sa pinas...

  8. #138

    Default Fake Pandemic Finally Coming To An End — CDC Reports

    Here's my summary as per my observation of the wide-spread sniffles...

    Testing results across the US should indicate that everything about this hoax was political in nature:

    ~ Diamond Princess: A new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine shows that 82% of those infected aboard the Diamond Princess were asymptomatic. Previously, the estimated percentage of asymptomatic individuals onboard was 46.5%.

    ~ USS Theodore Roosevelt: Of the 1,102 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, more than 70 % were asymptomatic. Only seven were hospitalized under mild condition, and only one person died with a pre-existing condition.

    ~ Charles de Gaulle: 1,046 sailors out of 1,760 on board the French aircraft carrier tested positive for the virus. There were zero deaths, and two hospitalized again, under mild condition. According to the NYT, more than half were asymptomatic.

    ~ Prisons: These facilities seem to have an especially high rate of asymptomatic cases. According to Reuters, a total of 3,277 inmates in state prison systems in Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio, and Virginia who had tested positive for the virus showed that 97% of those who tested positive were asymptomatic. 1,300 tested positive in one Tennessee prison: 98% were asymptomatic, six were hospitalized and one fat lard died. An entire female prison in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, was tested, and 80% were positive, but three whole quarters were asymptomatic.

    ~ Pregnant women in labor: A groups of doctors at the New York–Presbyterian Allen Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center tested 215 women delivering babies between March 22 and April 4, 2020. This is a good random sample because they were not tested based on symptoms. The result yields 33 tested positive, and 30 of those were initially asymptomatic. Three of the initial 30 asymptomatic patients eventually developed mild symptoms of the virus, which would mean that in total, 80% were asymptomatic.

    ~ Food processing plants: 412 out of 2,367 workers at Triumph Foods plant in St. Joseph, Missouri, tested positive. All of them were asymptomatic, and there have been zero deaths among those workers so far.

    ~ Homeless people: A Boston homeless shelter tested 408 residents and found that 46% tested positive, of which 90%
    were asymptomatic.

    ~ Nursing homes: Even in nursing homes, with an elderly population that is more susceptible to COVID-19, many of them are still asymptomatic. A nursing home in Washington state, 76% of those who tested positive were asymptomatic. One nursing home in Miami County, Ohio, tested every resident last week, and so far all of those who tested positive are still asymptomatic.

    ~ Tiktok Nurses and #filmyourhospital: These were the real pointers to the deceitfulness of the mainstream media and the palm-greasing inside it.

    And in addition to the blatant anomaly of this PLANdemic, all of the cases who have symptoms were either immune-suppressed, fat, hypertensive, any of the two or all at once. I deliberately removed old age because my 88 year old grandma still goes to the palengke ug panyo ray gamit as mask every three days amid lockdown. Aside from that, whenever mag grocery ko, I always see familiar faces of the many senior citizens mostly in their late 60s to early 70s and none of them have died yet. No supermarket clerk/cashier has ever contracted the sniffles even after three months of pandemic.

    Tldr: Covid19 is so yesterday. We got race wars now! And it's amazing to see that America eats her own shart!

    Make Chinese ¥ the world currency now!

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    The rest of the world is saying there is a Pandemic while one expert in Istorya.net is saying there is no Pandemic at all, and calling other members here they are fat.
    Haha.. ataya ning tawhana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    The rest of the world is saying there is a Pandemic while one expert in Istorya.net is saying there is no Pandemic at all, and calling other members here they are fat.
    Haha.. ataya ning tawhana.
    Post proof that you aren't fat, diabetic and hypertensive. I'll wait. Imgur is free.

    You're so hung up on that abias-cbn issue, ngano man artista ka? That corporation should never see the light of day ever again.


    The rest of the world is saying there is a pandemic —> You mean Normiebook and Twatter.

    Go outside and visit your local community if there really is a pandemic going on. I know there's none. I haven't worn a mask except when I get inside a meat shop because they won't let me in without wearing one. Walay social distancing diri sa mekado intawn, dodoy. Ang Carbon ray ni suway ana wa gihapon mag silbi. Basin daghan kag maid diha kay sila ra imo papaliton or kwartahan ka kay ka afford ka magpa lalamove sa imo groceries. Kaming mga ultimo ra, mangunay lang gihapon mi. At least I'm enjoying freedom for almost two weeks now here in northern Cebu. The beach is so nice, peaceful and clean with only a handful of people in sight. Libre pa gyud entrance. I kinda wish the Cebu City totalitarian lockdown will continue forever.

    The global pandemic psyop failed so now they moved the goalpost to race wars. The entire Western hemisphere is crumbling because some dindu nuffin nignog pornstar died off the knees of some kike police after opening a can of worms from that Ahmaud Arbery (Armed Robbery) case. It was degeneracy that brought Rome into its own de-construction from within despite 500 years of hegemony. If the US government doesn't do anything to stop their riots, history will repeat itself and to me, that is a good thing.

    Whites will be the minority from now on — screencap this.

    Also, Hong Kong failed. Taiwan Nambah Wan is on their way to annexation. NZ, being the first of the 5 Eyes to join China's Belt and Road initiative is a telltale sign of the massive success of China's expanding economic influence to the South Pacific. OZ is also itching to sign the trade. Nearly every single country in Asia will be coerced to be on daddy Xi's side now. Aren't you happy that Asia is finally going to drop a shift in cultural capitalism and will soon claim a much larger geopolitical territory?!! If yes, then we are bros. If not, then go live in the biggest post-modern 3rd World shithole called United States of Amerimutts.




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