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  1. #1381

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?


    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    lagi, edukasyon jud kaylangan, puna-an nako RESPECT sa kaugalingon ang kaylangan...


    hmmmm, balik ta sa kaso student, kalimot ko ug butang, self-support ra jud siya, wala siya'y parents..

    I agree bai..we need self-respect, Pride..etc..again, it is cultural (to me that is).

    ok, back to student: if wa syay parent's & wa juy bisan usa ka relative..then maybe she should start being a working student. My wife was sa working student before (sa USJ-R), bisan pag naa syay parents wa siya nagsalig sa ila, (her younger sister, Scholar sa UP). that is self respect to me...& on my part, while i was studying college, i also worked at a factory..i also payed for my tuition. so just with my personal experience i know it can be done. as long as you have self-respect & pride. a person doesn't need to be a prostitute just to have an education..that is why we have guidance councilors..that is what we pay them for.


    prostitution is not the way to become rich. ang uban gud anang prostis (both male & female) maghunahuna ra sa pangbayad sa bisyo.. ang uban sad prosti kay napugos sa way puangod nga ginikanan, while the rest kay white slavery (which mao ni ang gitarget sa legalization sa Prostitution).check Prosititution in HK bai, i saw nice info sa ila with enlightened me with the idea.

  2. #1382

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    @TheInfidel: choy, wala maka-abot atong gobyerno ug tabang nila, kay tawo ra baya ning nag-padagan sa atong gobyerno, ug sila(prostitutes) ka'y tawo mn pud, aduna sila'y feelings ug huna2x, sa ilahang huna2x mn gud "dahh, dili ta mag-salig sa atong gobyerno, maningkamot ta ug ato", unsa ma'y tawag nimo ana?di ba, dili ganahan mag-pa tabang, ka'y salig sila sa ilahang ka-ugalingon?, usa pa pud, ka-ila ka'g "kapit sa patalim" na mga studyante?sila na mao mga wala'y nag-support nila, ultimo ginikanan wala,pero ganahan sila maka-homan ug skwela, ohw, illegal na sila, pero wala jud ka ka-huna2x noh?nganu wala pa'y nabalita or nadakpan na college student na nibaligya ug dongog?if ever na'a mn gani, na priso buh?kahebaw ka nganu na?kahebaw ka?kahebaw ka?....choice na nila mn gud, kung unsa ilang way para ma-lingkawas sila sa financial problem,wala na ta'y labot, wala na'y labot ang katawhan ana, ug if ever gamiton ang three inherent power of the state nila, para ma-regulate ang prostitution, dili kaha, alkanse ang gobyerno ana?
    ka'y atong gobyerno mn gud, nangita na ug universal solution pirmi sa mga issues and problems sa atong nasud, ang pag-legalize sa prostitution is way down on their list, mas ni focus sila sa pag-develop sa atong EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, which is good para sa atong nasud,

    ug sa kanang imong pasabot na "wang-wang" law, hehehe, dugay na mn na balaod gud, hehehehe, ge-impose lang jud na ni abNoy, wala pa mahemong presidente si abnoy na'a na kanang balaoda,hehehehe
    about sa pag-stop sa prostitution, na'a mn ta'y existing law na pud ana, "anti trafficking in person act" mao na,hehehehehe.

    hahaha, awa imong gi-ingun "Could you show us proof that government officials don't use condom and that prostitutes don't ask them to wear one? Even bar girls carry condoms with them all the time and they won't have *** with anyone not unless they agree to use it.", una sa tanan, basaha balik ang katong imong ge-quote na akong ge-post, "na'ay tawo sa gobyerno mo-taod ug condom sa mga mo-gamit sa mga prosti?ha?!na'a?!WALA!"ako pasabot na'a bay taga gobyerno na mo-taod ug condom para sa mga mo-gamit ug prosti, hehehehehe,

    ug sa ako lang experience haf?!....sa last nakong ehheemm, pina-ana pa kaayo ang borikat "tang-tanga na lang gud nang condom" hahahahahaha..klaro na?

  3. #1383

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfidel View Post
    Your questions have been answered by what you've also said on the latter. It's because the government ignores the prostitutes. Do you honestly believe that prostitutes don't want help? Turning a blind eye over them makes the matter all the more worst. Why would they even ask for help if the government won't grant it firsthand? A prostitute can't work inside a school, university nor inside a college. Students are subjects by their own school laws and prostitution inside a school has always been illegal.

    Balik na sad ko ani, this topic isn't the same as a simple 1,2,3... there are a lot of considerations to be looked at and laws to be made. Basing it one example doesn't testify all prostitutes in the Philippines.



    As what Eve used as an example, the "wang-wang" law was a special law created for that sole purpose. This may also be applied with prostitution. The government can make special laws for it.

    Could you show us proof that government officials don't use condom and that prostitutes don't ask them to wear one? Even bar girls carry condoms with them all the time and they won't have *** with anyone not unless they agree to use it.



    Avoiding or eradicating prostitution will never happen. If you may let me use your argument above, do you honestly think that the government or any other government in the world will be able to completely remove prostitution? Since 2000+ years ago?

    No one is forcing you to say yes bro, but it would be better if you could hand out points why prostitution shouldn't be legalised as well. This is a discussion after all.
    Dili ta mag homan ani na argument bro kay ikaw mismo nag tuyok-tuyok kah and i dont want to deviate sa mga taw na dli pa pilde? Its not worth the time. Anyways, i've expressed my sympathy and said enough words to this topic. I hope you're right on your thoughts. This is open forum then wl stick to the topic.. I have to sign off nah! time to take my dinner.... bona pete everyone!

  4. #1384

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    I agree bai..we need self-respect, Pride..etc..again, it is cultural (to me that is).

    ok, back to student: if wa syay parent's & wa juy bisan usa ka relative..then maybe she should start being a working student. My wife was sa working student before (sa USJ-R), bisan pag naa syay parents wa siya nagsalig sa ila, (her younger sister, Scholar sa UP). that is self respect to me...& on my part, while i was studying college, i also worked at a factory..i also payed for my tuition. so just with my personal experience i know it can be done. as long as you have self-respect & pride. a person doesn't need to be a prostitute just to have an education..that is why we have guidance councilors..that is what we pay them for.


    prostitution is not the way to become rich. ang uban gud anang prostis (both male & female) maghunahuna ra sa pangbayad sa bisyo.. ang uban sad prosti kay napugos sa way puangod nga ginikanan, while the rest kay white slavery (which mao ni ang gitarget sa legalization sa Prostitution).check Prosititution in HK bai, i saw nice info sa ila with enlightened me with the idea.

    tinood bitaw na bai, daghan ug face ang prostitution, pero na'a mn ta'y "anti white slavery" ug "anti-trafficking of persons act" na mo-pugong anang white slavery, ..wala ge-target ang mga prosti but ang katong mga nag-paluyo sa white-slavery,..kana sad pang-bisyo, ilaha na nang problema, wala na ta'y labot ana, mao mn ilang gi-pili, pero katong mga ni-resort ani na butang, tungod sa kalisod pero dili mo intend mahemong prosti or colboy forever, malooy jud ko nila oy...

    hmmm, about anang student bai, example lang na,
    Last edited by Hammer_and_Sickle; 03-30-2011 at 09:49 PM.

  5. #1385

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    ug sa ako lang experience haf?!....sa last nakong ehheemm, pina-ana pa kaayo ang borikat "tang-tanga na lang gud nang condom" hahahahahaha..klaro na?[/QUOTE]

    hahaha lingawa sad nako anang imo experience bai dah..haha sipata anang Bor sad oi.wehehe

    about sa wang-wang bai, pasabot ra namo ana bai is bisan unsa nga law pwede buhaton sa government para maimpose jud ug tarong ang balaod.. anti-traffickin, & VOWC naa jud na bai..existing jud na. mao btaw amo sad gisulti diri nga ang current situation nato karon di jud ni magsilbi sa PINAS.

    we all agree bai nga di ni pwede sa pinas karon dayon..gusto lang sad mi makahibalo why man nga dili mo work ang Legalization. unsa man ato kahadlokan aning mananapa..wehehehe

    if ang reason is

    1) AIDS- sad to say, dili prositution ang rason why naa ning sakita (ang story pa nag sugod sa mga bayot ning sakita,wehehe basin sayop sad ko, please correct me kung kinsa ang mkabasa). sila lang pinaka exposed.
    2) DEgrading sa country : HK is our neighbor & they legalized it. wa man na known ang HK for prostis (bisan naa pay Ads sa ilang mga newspaper about prostis..wehehe).

  6. #1386

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    @TheInfidel: choy, wala maka-abot atong gobyerno ug tabang nila, kay tawo ra baya ning nag-padagan sa atong gobyerno, ug sila(prostitutes) ka'y tawo mn pud, aduna sila'y feelings ug huna2x, sa ilahang huna2x mn gud "dahh, dili ta mag-salig sa atong gobyerno, maningkamot ta ug ato",
    All the more reasons why we and the government should get involved. This type of thinking won't solve anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    unsa ma'y tawag nimo ana?di ba, dili ganahan mag-pa tabang, ka'y salig sila sa ilahang ka-ugalingon?, usa pa pud, ka-ila ka'g "kapit sa patalim" na mga studyante?sila na mao mga wala'y nag-support nila, ultimo ginikanan wala,pero ganahan sila maka-homan ug skwela, ohw, illegal na sila, pero wala jud ka ka-huna2x noh?nganu wala pa'y nabalita or nadakpan na college student na nibaligya ug dongog?if ever na'a mn gani, na priso buh?kahebaw ka nganu na?kahebaw ka?kahebaw ka?....choice na nila mn gud, kung unsa ilang way para ma-lingkawas sila sa financial problem,wala na ta'y labot, wala na'y labot ang katawhan ana, ug if ever gamiton ang three inherent power of the state nila, para ma-regulate ang prostitution, dili kaha, alkanse ang gobyerno ana?
    This still doesn't testify all prostitutes here in the Philippines. Not all prostitutes have the same story as what is based on your personal experience. Certain cultures need to be changed before we can even progress forward. Your argument is biased and you're mixing your own personal emotions to speak in behalf of all prostitutes here in the Philippines which makes it a bit one-sided. I also never claimed that I know everything so mockery is really not necessary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    ka'y atong gobyerno mn gud, nangita na ug universal solution pirmi sa mga issues and problems sa atong nasud, ang pag-legalize sa prostitution is way down on their list, mas ni focus sila sa pag-develop sa atong EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, which is good para sa atong nasud,
    It is what I said on my earlier posts, legalising prostitution isn't the only problem our country has. I would also have to agree with you about education since it should be the first and foremost priority of our government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    ug sa kanang imong pasabot na "wang-wang" law, hehehe, dugay na mn na balaod gud, hehehehe, ge-impose lang jud na ni abNoy, wala pa mahemong presidente si abnoy na'a na kanang balaoda,hehehehe
    about sa pag-stop sa prostitution, na'a mn ta'y existing law na pud ana, "anti trafficking in person act" mao na,hehehehehe.
    There's a difference in between forced prostitution and voluntary prostitution. The "wang-wang" was merely an example of the government's capability to impose special laws. If they can do it with cars, why not with prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    hahaha, awa imong gi-ingun "Could you show us proof that government officials don't use condom and that prostitutes don't ask them to wear one? Even bar girls carry condoms with them all the time and they won't have *** with anyone not unless they agree to use it.", una sa tanan, basaha balik ang katong imong ge-quote na akong ge-post, "na'ay tawo sa gobyerno mo-taod ug condom sa mga mo-gamit sa mga prosti?ha?!na'a?!WALA!"ako pasabot na'a bay taga gobyerno na mo-taod ug condom para sa mga mo-gamit ug prosti, hehehehehe,
    Then I stand corrected and I apologise. I'm still not that good with Bisaya and I originally came from Manila. My apologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    ug sa ako lang experience haf?!....sa last nakong ehheemm, pina-ana pa kaayo ang borikat "tang-tanga na lang gud nang condom" hahahahahaha..klaro na?
    It was her choice and so was yours. Did you took the condom off or no? Again, this still doesn't testify all prostitutes are the same with your most recent one. Chances of getting sexually transmitted diseases would then be high not because of prostitution but because of pagiging "pabaya".

    Quote Originally Posted by nightzlayer
    Dili ta mag homan ani na argument bro kay ikaw mismo nag tuyok-tuyok kah and i dont want to deviate sa mga taw na dli pa pilde? Its not worth the time. Anyways, i've expressed my sympathy and said enough words to this topic. I hope you're right on your thoughts. This is open forum then wl stick to the topic.. I have to sign off nah! time to take my dinner.... bona pete everyone!
    I think you may have misunderstood me and I apologise. We are never right with our thoughts and that is why we are encouraging a discussion. Have a good evening, nightzlayer.

  7. #1387

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    tinood bitaw na bai, daghan ug face ang prostitution, pero na'a mn ta'y "anti white slavery" ug "anti-trafficking of persons act" na mo-pugong anang white slavery, ..wala ge-target ang mga prosti but ang katong mga nag-paluyo sa white-slavery,..kana sad pang-bisyo, ilaha na nang problema, wala na ta'y labot ana, mao mn ilang gi-pili, pero katong mga ni-resort ani na butang, tungod sa kalisod pero dili mo intend mahemong prosti or colboy forever, malooy jud ko nila oy...

    hmmm, about anang student bai, example lang na,
    agree jud ko bai..daghan jud kaayong face ang prostitution karon..wa lang ta kabalo nga ang ngapaluyo diay kay mga politico ra..kita ray giilad..wehehe..Mas louy bai kadtong mga bata sa Thailand..ang parents jud kuno ang mobugaw (source nako ako kauban nga malay while on their thailand trip before). grabe kuno bai oi..mao nga important jud ang Education...i believe nga mao jud na ang solution sa tanan..kay once educated na ang tao bai, we can wiegh our options naman..

    prostis are sometimes the victim jud bai..sa kanta pa ni late francism " nilamon ng systema"...i
    i think we already have the solution..the problem is when will we be able to change...

  8. #1388

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfidel View Post
    All the more reasons why we and the government should get involved. This type of thinking won't solve anything.



    This still doesn't testify all prostitutes here in the Philippines. Not all prostitutes have the same story as what is based on your personal experience. Certain cultures need to be changed before we can even progress forward. Your argument is biased and you're mixing your own personal emotions to speak in behalf of all prostitutes here in the Philippines which makes it a bit one-sided. I also never claimed that I know everything so mockery is really not necessary



    It is what I said on my earlier posts, legalising prostitution isn't the only problem our country has. I would also have to agree with you about education since it should be the first and foremost priority of our government.



    There's a difference in between forced prostitution and voluntary prostitution. The "wang-wang" was merely an example of the government's capability to impose special laws. If they can do it with cars, why not with prostitution?



    Then I stand corrected and I apologise. I'm still not that good with Bisaya and I originally came from Manila. My apologies.



    It was her choice and so was yours. Did you took the condom off or no? Again, this still doesn't testify all prostitutes are the same with your most recent one. Chances of getting sexually transmitted diseases would then be high not because of prostitution but because of pagiging "pabaya".
    .

    in short bai, wala'y gamit ang legalization sa prostitution, usik2x ra lage na ug oras,kwarta,time,..wala'y makwarta atong gobyerno lge ana, awa ra, ingun ka ganiha na, mga prosti mag-dala ug condom, ge-tagaan na tika'g evience na na'a mga prosti na dili ganahan ug condom, ayaw ko ingna tagsa2x-on nako ug gamit ang mga prosti sa tibook nasud?ha!kapoy noh..hehehehehe, wala jud gamit ang lagalization ani bai, wala jud ko kita ug saktong rason nganu ma-legalize ni,
    Last edited by Hammer_and_Sickle; 03-30-2011 at 10:36 PM.

  9. #1389

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    in short bai, wala'y gamit ang legalization sa prostitution, usik2x ra lage na ug oras,kwarta,time,..wala'y makwarta atong gobyerno lge ana,
    That may be true but it may also be the other way around. Like I said (na sad ) in my previous posts. We will never know what effect it may actually do to us not unless we try it.

    Thank you for your opinions. I appreciate yours and I respect them. Asa na man si Eve? Natulog na?

  10. #1390

    Default Re: Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

    lain napud na topic basig naay nindot hehehe

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