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Was Manny Pacquiao's Hair a Factor in the Fight?
Written by Leroy Cleveland at Nov 18, 2011 - 07:48PM ET in NEWS

Last Saturday night after the conclusion of Pacquiao vs Marquez III, official fight statistics from CompuBox, a program that counts and categorizes punches in boxing matches, showed the more aggressive Manny Pacquiao threw and landed more punches than Marquez and even connected on more power-shots.

When a world champion is successful in all of those areas and doesn't get floored, he usually wins easily and without controversy.

So why do so many fans believe Marquez was robbed?

Answer: Although Pacquiao out-landed Marquez, Marquez's shots appeared to jolt Pacquiao. His punches seemed more authoritative. In addition, Marquez's punches were more eye-catching as they drew more "ooohs" from the crowd than Pacquiao's.

Clean and hard punching is one of four key elements used to judge boxing matches. The others are effective aggression, ring generalship and defense.

In professional boxing, a "clean blow" is one that lands flush and with full impact. While having a high work-rate and throwing punches in bunches are important, they are not as meaningful as clean, hard blows that are landed with consistency throughout the bout.
Those who thought Marquez should have won base their argument on the belief he decisively landed the more impactful, more eye-catching blows. That stated, is there a possibility the impact of Marquez's punches were exaggerated by Pacquiao's long hair (on top)?

Whenever Marquez landed flush, including jabs, Pacquiao's hair flew up wildly in 'ragdoll' fashion. When Pacquiao's back was to the camera and Marquez landed shots, Pacquiao's head appeared to be getting snapped back like a bobble-head's because his hair seemed to bounce uncontrollably every time he was hit cleanly.

Could Pacquiao's bouncy hair given viewers the impression he was being tagged much harder than he really was?

Some fighters purposely wear their hair shorter-than-usual when they enter the ring for fear the impact of their opponents' punches will be exaggerated by the 'ragdoll' effect if their hair is too long.

Camacho vs Duran I and II
In 1996, Hector Camacho won a slightly controversial decision over Roberto Duran. And in their rematch, Camacho cruised to a lopsided win.

Although Duran's skills had deteriorated more than Camacho's since their first meeting five years prior, the first thing some observers noticed was how Duran's hair sprung-up wildly every time he was hit. In fact, the actions of Duran's hair gave the impression Camacho, who was never known for being a power puncher, had somehow obtained new found power.
Camacho landed well in their first meeting too but his punches didn't seem nearly as impactful because Duran was sporting a short tight, flattop and wasn't a victim of the 'ragdoll' effect every time he was hit or grazed.

So should fans expect Manny Pacquiao to look like Timothy Bradley next time?

Probably not.

Nonetheless, expect to see a shorter-haired version of the Filipino star the next time around.

Source: Was Manny Pacquiao's Hair a Factor in the Fight?

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katong pacman version nga niaway ni dela hoya, margarito, cotto, even clottey for me will defeat mayweather..... katong mo take ug risk mo gamble gyud ba... unlike sa iyang last two fights medyo cautious na siya thats y walay excitement, samot na mga counter puncher iyang nakontra... dont know nganong walay adjustments sila si roach bisag siya mismo naka hibaw nga behind ug points si pacman b4 sa round 10... ugma mo watch ko sa replay try pud nako himo2x ug analysis hehehehe....

happy sabado nights sa tanan!!! ahahah

Mayweather is a bigger, faster, and more skilled version of Marquez. Manny's greatest outing out of those you've mentioned obviously was the one that against Cotto. That particular Manny will have absolutely no chance against the Mayweather that humiliated Marquez.

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Mayweather is a bigger, faster, and more skilled version of Marquez. Manny's greatest outing out of those you've mentioned obviously was the one that against Cotto. That particular Manny will have absolutely no chance against the Mayweather that humiliated Marquez.

But we can also deduce that Mayweather will have a long night if he was the Mayweather who faced, Judah, Mosley and DLH.

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they can suspend the judges, i mean that would be the case right?

awts, suspend the judges ra diay, change the outcome man unta dapat

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Mayweather is a bigger, faster, and more skilled version of Marquez. Manny's greatest outing out of those you've mentioned obviously was the one that against Cotto. That particular Manny will have absolutely no chance against the Mayweather that humiliated Marquez.

correct!!!!!!!!

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awts, suspend the judges ra diay, change the outcome man unta dapat

Big fights like these? don't bet on it, unless it was a technical error--like error in scoring and stuff and if a corner REALLY makes it a case and protest. Pac could have protested that draw he had with Marquez, but just took it like a man. It's difficult because of the Vegas betting. Anyway most people are over it. Pacquiao already won, its an overblown controversy that was unnecessary...Unlike the Lara-Williams which a stark majority, including compubox, saw was a robbery.

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Mayweather is a bigger, faster, and more skilled version of Marquez. Manny's greatest outing out of those you've mentioned obviously was the one that against Cotto. That particular Manny will have absolutely no chance against the Mayweather that humiliated Marquez.

how about margarito katong c manny niingon nga "boxing is not killing each other", wer sa fight mismo nakita nato ang actions ni manny nga nalooy saya sa iyang kontra?

.......ahhh si mayweather nga hapit malukapa ni shame oldsley nga nag lisud ni ortiz?

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what for? To please you? LOL...I don't have to establish my legitimacy for you



If we base solely on Compubox then that was a fight dominated by Pacquiao. However, even without compubox, my instant reaction watching the live fight was this fight could go either way or it would be a draw. Meaning to say, I would not have anything to say had Marquez won that fight and would have accepted that decision well because in my assessment it was a really close fight. If JMM was saying he could have won by 1 of 2 points, then it was a dumb decision on his part to give away the last 2 rounds because that means even if kabalo siya nga close ang fight, he settled for inaction. The only time you dance away the last 2 rounds is when you are leading by at least 3 points or won 7 of the last 10 rounds. Did JMM clearly win 7 of the first 10 rounds? Hardly. He should know too well how close some of the rounds were and should have been more conservative in his assessment. I watched replays but never in slo-mo and the more I watch again, I am becoming even more convinced Pacquiao won this fight more convincingly that the 2nd fight with Marquez

Clouded ang assessment ni Beristain. Tan-awa ra gud unsa iya gisulti after Round 1 and 4 when these were rounds where Pacquiao was more active and connected a lot more than JMM and rounds that Pacquiao clearly won.

Everyone's judgment of the fight was clouded by the fact that they wanted to see Pacquiao dominate his opponent which admittedly he did not.

While Marquez did very well in that fight, there was also no question that he did not dominate the fight. And it is the yardstick in boxing that in a close fight, the judges favors the bolder, more aggressive fighter, styles be damned.

Marquez was successful at taking away Pacquiao's game. But that was not enough. He circled away from Pacquiao's left and cut him well but he did not throw anything while doing it. Had he thrown more jabs while circling away, the outcome could have been different.

Then that just shows that u are a pactard who claims to know boxing but only watches pacquiao fights, very typical indeed. Once pacquiao fights they sprout like mushrooms everywhere like boxing analyst and experts then ask them about boxing itself and you'll exposed them. haha

As we all say in the other boxing forums they are like Lego, they act solid but easily breakable.

Even Roach said that marquez was ahead on round 10 so its ---- 6 rounds to 4 even unless another judge scored it 10-10. But roach Really knows manny was trailing in round 10. Then manny *wins the last 2 rounds which at could also go either way. So at best it is a draw, a close fight indeed.

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There's no perfect fighter man cguro, every fighter has his flaws and a rival na maglisod jud xa, same story with "Smokin" Joe Frazier vs Mohammed Ali. But if you really want to push your case about this fight na daug jud si Marquez, adto reklamo sa NSAC.

The closest thing to a perfect fighter is Sugar ray robinson. But the fighter with the most intimidating presence in the boxing ring is Roberto Duran (outside-ring iron mike). The man has an aura of INVINCIBILITY for a decade before losing to the *running style of Leonard. Style makes fights as they say.

And breaking news---Ariza,Roach and Manny stated that they are ready to sign contract to fight floyd but Arum is holding them back. Maybe Arum needs to milk his cash cow to the fullest before being slaughtered. ***Listening to Espn radio for more updates

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The closest thing to a perfect fighter is Sugar ray robinson. But the fighter with the most intimidating presence in the boxing ring is Roberto Duran (outside-ring iron mike). The man has an aura of INVINCIBILITY for a decade before losing to the *running style of Leonard. Style makes fights as they say.

yeah duran who defeated our very own flash elorde via tko..... 1st peldi man si sugar ray leonard via UD, pag rematch ra nila na tko si duran... peldi pud xa ni haggler UD, ug ni hearns via 2nd round ko... pero pag 60s-80s grabe taas iyang ko/tko percentage...

And breaking news---Ariza,Roach and Manny stated that they are ready to sign contract to fight floyd but Arum is holding them back. Maybe Arum needs to milk his cash cow to the fullest before being slaughtered. ***Listening to Espn radio for more updates

na puzzle pud si ariza ngano sa last 2 fights ni manny ang usa sa mga reasons y bati iyang performance bcoz of cramps hehehe....

hahahah c pacquiao nga always talk to my promoter...