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    Default On Muslim (Religion opium of the people)


    for me religion is the opium of the people.. kung relihiyon ang pag uusapan parang ang lahat ng bias ay lumalabas.. in my experience,, my barkada akong muslim i don't see a gap between us..he even join in Catholic celebration, i remember one time when we have our novena mass dahil mayrong snack lahat ng katolokong bata ay nasa simbahan, itong kaibigan namin na muslim ay nasa labas lang..

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    sakto jud ka radiostar.. naa pa gani posibilidad nga si arroyo ang nag propaganda ani kalaki,,

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    depende rana sa pagka muslim niya
    akng migo nga muslim kay kusog gani kaau muinom
    kaon pag baboy pero inig uli kay muslim2 pud nuon

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    Quote Originally Posted by rigormortis View Post
    depende rana sa pagka muslim niya
    akng migo nga muslim kay kusog gani kaau muinom
    kaon pag baboy pero inig uli kay muslim2 pud nuon

    Mao ba,hahaha. bisan asa naa man jud magpa badlong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1000 View Post
    dili man ang MUSLIM (person)ang problema, kung di ang crazy teachings sa ISLAM...
    again, i don't hate muslims, but ilang prophet questionably..
    mao nang nay uban TEACHINGS na mo lead sad sa ubang muslim na muhimog mga craziness...
    kay si mohammad the greatest prophet gud nag sulat.
    If you want to know islam then read the Quran and and most especially the Hadith (life of Mohammad).
    Then you’ll know what islam is. ( ignon na sad neh: mga christians oh! oh please!come on teachings akong gi ingon diri)

    EXAMPLE:

    ok ra diay ang PEDOPHILIA? Naa paniy Islamic explanation…
    bisan weeks old na baby girl na walay ngipon pwede e sex… whah! DISTURBING..
    [/I]

    .. i just edited the whole quote.. but anyway... as i said Islam is a VERY VERY VERY OLD religion. Their morals way back a thousand years ain't the same as our morals of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1000 View Post
    dili man ang MUSLIM (person)ang problema, kung di ang crazy teachings sa ISLAM...
    again, i don't hate muslims, but ilang prophet questionably..
    mao nang nay uban TEACHINGS na mo lead sad sa ubang muslim na muhimog mga craziness...
    kay si mohammad the greatest prophet gud nag sulat.
    If you want to know islam then read the Quran and and most especially the Hadith (life of Mohammad).
    Then you’ll know what islam is. ( ignon na sad neh: mga christians oh! oh please!come on teachings akong gi ingon diri)

    EXAMPLE:

    ok ra diay ang PEDOPHILIA? Naa paniy Islamic explanation…
    bisan weeks old na baby girl na walay ngipon pwede e sex… whah! DISTURBING..

    Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

    The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:
    65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . .
    4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation,
    (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and THE SAME APPLIES TO THOS WHO HAVE NOT MESTRATED AS YET. As for pregnant women,
    their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617,
    emphasis added)

    Video: YouTube - muhammads child bride and her sisters

    I did not made this video, pero ang highlighted point diri, ang interview(2:32) sa bata,
    og ang Islamic commentary(of course interpreted by their scholars)(7:34) condoning the act.
    Maka aku mo na makigsex aning bataa? Nag duwa pa man intawon unta
    ni siyag tubig tubig sa iyang idad. Please ayaw I excuse ang cultural difference
    og time difference karon og sauna… if so, ang muslims karon,
    mas naa diay morals kay sa ilang prophet? unsa gud na na prophet!ahahah LOLZ Whoot!

    Jesus Christ says: It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck,
    and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. Luke 17:2




    Ok ra diay I physically and sexually e-abuse ang babae?

    Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear
    highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).


    The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

    4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God],
    then ignore them when you go to bed, THEN HIT THEM.
    If they obey you, you have no right to act against them.
    God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)
    Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.

    The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

    And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).

    Don’t forget the 72 virgins in heaven ahahah….
    Unsa kahay premyo sa babae na muslim kung muadto og heaven?
    72 lesbians ahahahah what a pervert prophet! LOLZ





    Apostasy in islam. Muhammad teaches people to kill those who turns their back to islam!


    The verses that deal with the case of apostasy from Islam are listed here:

    1. They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved,
    so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends
    until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then SEIZE them and KILL them
    WHEREVER YOU FIND them
    , and take not from among them a friend or a helper [ Q 4:89]

    2. Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it.
    If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin [Q 009.066 ].

    Narrated Ikrima:

    "Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) DISCARDS his religion, KILL him.' " [ Sahih Bukhari 4.260]

    Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17: Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse AND the one who REVERTS from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

    Volume 9, Book 89, Number 271: Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and
    then REVERTED back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa.
    Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He EMBRACED Islam and then
    REVERTED back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, " I will NOT sit down UNLESS you KILL
    him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle.

    Video:
    hinanglan pa ni… Maski diri sa pilipinas naa man ni. Have you heard any Christian, Judaism, buddist or a hindu DOCTRINE og iapil na lang sad ang Shinto og Taoist na mo patay og former believer kung mubalhin og laing religion? Only in islam!

    Jihad verses (kamo na lang search, kabalo na mo.) it’s interesting to note,
    that they condemn terrorism, but not jihad.



    provision for lying in islam

    Most Muslims are familiar with the principles of Islam that will justify lying in
    situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are:

    War is deception.
    The necessities justify the forbidden.
    If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.
    These principles are derived from passages found in the Quran and the Hadith.

    In the Quran, Allah, allegedly, says:

    Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89

    "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225

    "Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." Surah 16: 106

    One of Mohammed's daughters, Umm Kalthoum, testified that she had never heard the Apostle of Allah condone lying, except in these three situations:

    For reconciliation among people.
    In war.
    Amongst spouses, to keep peace in the family.
    One passage from the Hadith quotes Mohammed as saying: "The sons of Adam are accountable for all lies except those uttered to help bring reconciliation between Muslims."

    The Arabic word, "Takeyya", means "to prevent," or guard against. The principle of Al Takeyya conveys the understanding that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventive measure against anticipated harm to one's self or fellow Muslims. This principle gives Muslims the liberty to lie under circumstances that they perceive as life threatening. They can even deny the faith, if they do not mean it in their hearts. Al-Takeyya is based on the following Quranic verse:

    "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." Surah 3: 28

    According to this verse a Muslim can pretend to befriend infidels (in violation of the teachings of Islam) and display adherence with their unbelief to prevent them from harming him.


    oi naa diay ni nga post.


    Sure any unbeliever would always question the authenticity of any prophet. Natural ra ng imong gibati sir.


    dili pod puede ang pedophilia oi. kung naa man gani nag practice ana,aw kanang tawhana is not in his right mind. Pero puede e minyo na sila, murag buya ba. But ang consumation ana is inig naa na sa puberty ug adolescent stage puede hilabtan ang babaye. Then again kung naay mo violate ana,again he is not practising the real law of islam meaning iyang gi violate niya ang law.

    Joseph married Marry when she was young,would that mean nga pedo pod si Joseph? dili pa teenager si Mary ato.

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    dili puede e excuse ang cultural differencies? LOLZ unsa gud ning pangutanaha. Mura man ug gi sirado daan ang tubag,haha. Mura bag nagutana nga...nganung magkinamot man ug kaon ang tao sauna or nganung kanang mga igorot sa baguio mag bahag ra man? pero sa di pa katubag mu ingun dayun ka nga...ooops ayaw gamita imong cultural background ha. toink! ayaw e limit ang answer sir kung kana sincere imong pangutana.

    Ang tubag ana sir is lahi ang culture nila mao ng puede sila mag minyo. Ga unay man gani to ang mga igsoon sa una sa panahon ni Cain ug Abel.

    and it doesnt mean nga mas taas ang moral sa mga muslims karun kay ni propeta muhammad but it only means nga lahi ang culture sauna ug karun.

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    Yes we are allowed to hit our wives but there are guidelines,just like christians are allowed to beat their children. "spare the rod spoil the child". Its a disciplinary action.

    yes slave girls are sexual property of their master. But again there are guidelines.

    Unsaon man gud ning imong source cge lang ug hatag ug misrepresentation,dili man kompletohon ug suwat ang mga guidelines.

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    kanang patyon sir ang context ana is kung mo buhat ka ug means nga imong e destroy ang islam. Like mo tukod ka ug grupo nga ang main objective is papason ang islam then mo use ka ug mga lies,deceiving propaganda nga walay basis. And again naa ni guidelines sir. Ka dagahng nigawas sa islam sir nya mo criticize pa gani wa man gani na patya.

    kanang mga verses imong gi quote sir panahon man na sa gubat,so any muslim nga mobali pasabot ana is mo apil sila sa gubat or effort para e destroy ang islam.Mao na ang context ha.

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    of course lying is permitted. practical lang ang islam sir. kung naay gusto mopatay sa imong igsoon nya mangutana nimo nga asa siya gapuyo mo sulti diay ka sa tinood,LOLz. Kung imong ig-soon wala nisulod sa klase nya imong nakitan sa SM naglaroylaroy nya mangutana imong stricto nga amahan nga excessive kau mo dala ug disiplina imo diay sulthan sa tinood nga DADDY si palita nakitan nako wa muslod sa klase toa sa SM. Mura pod ka dili mamakak da. LOLz

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    Sir ang kapaet aning copy paste gud is dili ni imong work so ang tendency is wala kay basis kung tinood ba ni iyang gi pangsulti or dili. So ang imo is dawat lang ka sa iayng gisulti then andam ka mosakay dayun ani nila. Tsk tsk,kadali ba diay nimo patohoon.

  7. #127
    A song from Dream Theater about muslims:

    IN THE NAME OF GOD

    How can this be?
    Why is he the chosen one?
    Saint gone astray
    With a scepter and a gun
    Learn to believe
    In the mighty and the strong
    Come bleed the beast
    Follow me it won't be long

    Listen when the prophet
    Speaks to you
    Killing in the name of God

    Passion
    Twisting faith into violence
    In the name of God


    Straight is the path
    Leading to your salvation
    Slaying the weak
    Ethnic elimination


    Any day we'll all be
    Swept away
    You'll be saved
    As long as you obey

    Lies
    Tools of the devil inside
    Written in Holy disguise
    Meant to deceive and divide
    Us all


    Blurring the lines
    Between virtue and sin
    They can't tell
    Where God ends

    And mankind begins

    They know no other
    Life but this
    From the cradle
    They are claimed

    Hundreds of believers
    Lured into a doomsday cult
    All would perish
    In the name of God


    Self-proclaimed messiah
    Led his servants
    To their death
    Eighty murdered
    In the name of God


    Forty sons and daughters
    Un-consenting plural wives

    Perversions
    In the name of God

    Underground religion
    Turning toward
    The mainstream light
    Blind devotion
    In the name of God

    Justifying violence
    Citing from the Holy Book
    Teaching hatred
    In the name of God


    Religious beliefs
    Fanatic obsession
    Does following faith
    Lead us to violence?

    Unyielding crusade
    Divine revelation
    Does following faith
    Lead us to violence?

  8. #128
    islam is one of a kind. its beauty has been distorted by the people who claims to believe in it. so sad. but let's not generalize things.

  9. #129
    Bros,

    Check out this link below

    Answering Islam, A Christian-Muslim Dialog and Apologetic

    Matubag ang tanan (and more) nimo nga questions







    Quote Originally Posted by onlyvic View Post
    islam is one of a kind. its beauty has been distorted by the people who claims to believe in it. so sad. but let's not generalize things.

  10. #130
    religions that teaches to do bad deeds are not religion at all. it is man that made their own decision and mistakes. we cannot say muslims are bad bcoz they do this or that.

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