Do you believe in god?

[ClydeStrike]

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i really believe in God kay daghan na nahitabo sako life i ask for his help d man mo abot daun pero mo abot ra baya jd den maka ana jd ko always na tinood Siya permi naku hapit matay because of him buhi pako karon

[Vien]

God is something that you dont imagine, nor describe it's almost everything in your life, it doesn't mean nga if Mau ang hitabo sa imong life adunay Ginoo, and if dili sad mau ang panghitabo sa imong life mo ingon sad ka nga walay Ginoo, Mao na hinuon ni ang hinungdan nga you'll get disappointment sa imong life so better not define and not Question and not Measure God aron walay mahimong Sayop nga Tubag nga mahimo better nga Live your Life according to What Mother Nature Want your life to be...

[JcBoY]

I guess you've seen this before, similar to what Hitch22 posted about science being falsifiable:



You notice how Dictionaries and school textbooks print out new editions to accommodate updated/new information ?
It's like that: They correct themselves.

Whereas in religion, you surrender your rationality.

Di ba sayop ni nga flowchart?

Religion has the revelation from the Creator Himself it does not need theories, science rather needs theories and conduct studies through empirical observation because it deals with the relative world. But let us accept the fact that there are things that we cannot see and our mind has limited capacity to comprehend it.

And the flowchart referring faith is not applicable to all religions.

[yanong_banikanhon]

And when I said that you didn't disagree with me, it's because you yourself are asking for scientific evidence. NOW, ISN'T THAT IRONIC? Someone who doesn't like scientific method wanting a claim to be verified by the same method. GET MY POINT?

Ikaw man, bay ang wala maka-gets sa akong point. Let me make it clearer for you.

Matud nimo, the scientific method is the ultimate arbiter of truth. Now, the question is: Can you verify THAT statement using scientific method? CAN YOU?

If you can, then please provide the undisputable, universal scientific proof of that statement here. If you can't, then there is only one logical conclusion: your statement which I highlighted in red is false.

Kun dili ka makahatag og scientific proof anang imong statement, nagpasabot lang na nga DUNAY mga butang nga DILI ma-verify using science. Usa na ana kanang imong statement nga akong gi-koloran og pula. Which further means that the scientific method IS NOT the ultimate arbiter of truth.


Nakasabot na ka? If yes, then please give us the scientific proof that the following statement is true: the scientific method is the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Answer the question directly. Ayaw'g likay-likay.

[sicnarf]

I believe in God, not in god. See the difference?
In the bible, when it is God - it means God the Father.
if god - it is the devil/satan, the antichrist.
Try to confirm.

[Elyu]

So if Science will correct itself from time to time, why do Atheist already conclude that there is No God based on the idea that theres No Scientific Evidence? why arrive to a conclusion when your ultimate basis of your belief is still in development stage and cannot explain EVERYTHING?

I think it would be unfair to assume all atheists think alike, since there are those who don't have an absolute conclusion but make room for the possibility of a god, however unlikely. At the same time it is naive to assume there is only one god (quite unfair to other theistic religions, that is).

Consider all the other religions in the world right now, along with their various gods, sects and branches with differing doctrines, holidays, special places of worship and practices on whether they wear a specific hat or robe or grow beards or eat a specific kind of foodgroup. Consider that their followers sincerely and truly believe (as they were taught to in their culture) that their deity/deities is as real as you believe in regards with your god. They may believe in an afterlife, reincarnation, souls, heaven, hell, spirits, demons or angels, or they may not.

Now, consider all this and consider all the testimonies, holy scriptures, miracles, holy relics & holy events provided by their believers in addition to your testimony that your god is real. What are your observations ?

[hitch22]

...please give us the scientific proof that the following statement is true: the scientific method is the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Excuse me, yanong. You still don't get the point.

That's what happens when you uphold evidence as the basis for support or refutation of scientific theories. There are lots of scientists who had posited competing theories/hypothesis in the past. We know they can't all be true. Now, what would be the ultimate arbiter of THEIR truth or falsity? It's the scientific method and the weighing of evidence.

I've enlarged the KEY WORDS just so you get this point for the last time. I DIDN'T SAY THAT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IS THE ULTIMATE ARBITER OF ALL TRUTHS. If you understood the original post, as posted above (wala na siya gi-edit), I'm referring to scientific method as applied to scientific hypothesis and theories.

PLEASE, OH PLEASE....I BEG YOU, FOR SANITY'S SAKE...SOMEBODY HELP THIS GUY OUT...Elyu, anyone...kay murag wala pa gyud ni siya kasabot.

[kristofferty]

Pls read below conversation of an atheist Professor and Christian student...A friend sent this to me via email and I love reading this conversation....


Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD Good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?

Student : Yes.

Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.

Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.

But GOD didn't.

How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

( Student is silent )

Professor : You can't answer, can you ?

Let's start again, Young Fella.

Is GOD Good?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Is Satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor : Where does Satan come from ?

Student : From . . . GOD . . .

Professor : That's right.

Tell me son, is there evil in this World?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ?

And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student does not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?

All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So, who Created them ?

( Student has no answer )

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.

Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD?

Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist.

What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.

Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?

Professor : Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?

Professor : Yes.

Student : No sir. There isn't.

( The Lecture Theater becomes very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat,

White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat...

But we don't have anything called Cold.

We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat,

but we can't go any further after that.

There is no such thing as Cold.

Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.

We cannot Measure Cold.

Heat is Energy.

Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theater )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?

Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir.

Darkness is the Absence of Something¡K

You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .

But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called

Darkness, isn't it? In reality, Darkness isn't.

If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?

Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.

Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.

You argue there is Life and then there is Death,

a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.

You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite,

something we can measure.

Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.

It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen,

much less fully understood either one.

To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that

Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.

Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it.

Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved

from a Monkey?

Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process,

yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and

Cannot even prove that this Process is an On - Going Endeavor,

Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?

Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

( The Class is in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?

( The Class breaks out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .

No one appears to have done so.

So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable,

Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.

Student : That is it sir . . .

The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.

That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

NB:

I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so . . .

You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?

Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.

It turned out later that the student is Albert Einstein.''

[yanong_banikanhon]

I DIDN'T SAY THAT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IS THE ULTIMATE ARBITER OF ALL TRUTHS. If you understood the original post, as posted above (wala na siya gi-edit), I'm referring to scientific method as applied to scientific hypothesis and theories.

So kay dili man diay the ultimate arbiter of all truths ang scientific method, ang pangutana mao: What is the ultimate arbiter of all truths ? Is it science itself?

Kindly refrain from innuendos and try to answer the question as objectively as possible.

[LaBelleza]

@kristofferty I have that on my Tumblr