Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[regnauld]

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He is referring to the Anthropomorphic GOD...I believe mr. hell

[Hellblazer 2.1]

The Holy Father..........
The Father of Jesus Christ...........

the Holy Father of the Roman Catholic Church? that hot-tempered jealous God of the bible with petty human attributes? let me say that i have outgrown that already, sir.

wasn't Joseph the Carpenter the father of Jesus the Christ?

[Hellblazer 2.1]

He is referring to the Anthropomorphic GOD...I believe mr. hell

oh my hellness, mr.regnauld. i hope i didn't offend their God.

mr.regnauld, can God be offended? if he can be offended, is he still a God?

[Tirong-say]

the Holy Father of the Roman Catholic Church? that hot-tempered jealous God of the bible with petty human attributes? let me say that i have outgrown that already, sir.

wasn't Joseph the Carpenter the father of Jesus the Christ?

Okay thanks for your time Mr. Hell,
I have no further question.......

[Hellblazer 2.1]

you are most welcome, sir.

[LightBearer]

You dont reli understand the meaning of mass sis...please read the 62 reasons...

sir, i gave you my reason and when its your turn to give one mao ra ni imong mahatag? "you don't really undertsand the meaning of mass sis" come on you can do better than that.

dili nako mopadayon ani, this is church politics, and honestly di ko pa biktima ani nga duwa.

basta ang ako is Vatican 2 rules. hehe!!!

Vatican 1 is so exclusive.

[rclong_rey]

sir, i gave you my reason and when its your turn to give one mao ra ni imong mahatag? "you don't really undertsand the meaning of mass sis" come on you can do better than that.

dili nako mopadayon ani, this is church politics, and honestly di ko pa biktima ani nga duwa.

basta ang ako is Vatican 2 rules. hehe!!!

Vatican 1 is so exclusive.

Okay noted Maam...
But let me quote on the Vatican II...
Vatican II was made by a liberated or liberal party of the church... the Pope at that time is Liberal...
the Church should not be liberated...the Church will not adjust in-line with the generation.
Instead, the Church should preserve its Chastity, Modesty & Holiness and the People will adjust in-line to the teaching of the Church not the church will adjust to society...
Vatican I is a dogma while Vatican II is not...When a Pope declare a Dogma, He is infalliable or free from error or He cant teach against Faith & Morals.. But Vatican II is just an Experiment that have negative Impact to the Faithful Catholics...the proof is: Statistic shows
a great decrease in conversions to Catholicism following use of the New Mass. Conversions, which were up to 100,000 a year in the U.S., have decreased to less than 10,000!

Because in less than seven years after introduction of the New Mass, priests in the world decreased from 413,438 to 243,307—almost 50%. (Holy See Statistics).
nakakita na man siguro ka sa impact sa Vatican II...

62. Because heresy, or whatever clearly favors heresy, cannot be matter for obedience. Obedience is at the service of Faith and not Faith at the service of obedience! In this foregoing case then, "One must obey God before men." (Acts of the Apostles 5,29)

[LightBearer]

I went to Basilica Sto. Nino for the mass. The message was about the birth of Jesus and how the 3 magis were guided by the star to the Son of God.

Let me share what I heard. The 3 magis were astrologers, take note of that, they were not christians but they were led by the Holy Spirit right to the Christ, Savior of the world. Isn't that amazing?

The Jews,who are well versed in the Scriptures considered as God's chosen people with the exception of handful faithfuls, were not aware of the birth of their Messiah. Tragedy, isn't it?

there are different ways to know God, for the 3 Magi the STAR was their guide to the Christ. For the Shepherds the ANGELIC hosts were there guide to their Messiah.

What's the point? again I will repeat what I said, there are different ways to arrive at God, the Catholic Church has no monopoly of Salvation. This is what the Vatican 2 upholds and it stays true to its call for Universalism.

[gabstafari]

very nice point from lightbearer.

thanks for your very nice thoughts. makes me more astonished. hehehe

[munzter666]

Okay noted Maam...
But let me quote on the Vatican II...
Vatican II was made by a liberated or liberal party of the church... the Pope at that time is Liberal...
the Church should not be liberated...the Church will not adjust in-line with the generation.
Instead, the Church should preserve its Chastity, Modesty & Holiness and the People will adjust in-line to the teaching of the Church not the church will adjust to society...
Vatican I is a dogma while Vatican II is not...When a Pope declare a Dogma, He is infalliable or free from error or He cant teach against Faith & Morals.. But Vatican II is just an Experiment that have negative Impact to the Faithful Catholics...the proof is: Statistic shows
a great decrease in conversions to Catholicism following use of the New Mass. Conversions, which were up to 100,000 a year in the U.S., have decreased to less than 10,000!

Because in less than seven years after introduction of the New Mass, priests in the world decreased from 413,438 to 243,307—almost 50%. (Holy See Statistics).
nakakita na man siguro ka sa impact sa Vatican II...

62. Because heresy, or whatever clearly favors heresy, cannot be matter for obedience. Obedience is at the service of Faith and not Faith at the service of obedience! In this foregoing case then, "One must obey God before men." (Acts of the Apostles 5,29)

i dont know... disturbingly funny or just plain funny. an infallible MAN or an infallible DOGMA.

if those things OPERATE in ALL general aspects in the REAL WORLD ...we would still be living in a FLAT EARTH by now.

In this foregoing case then, "One must obey God before men."

but really now, one must put their TRUST and FAITH to the words of MEN first, before their respective GOD/S.