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  1. #1251

    Quote Originally Posted by zaibon View Post
    This is the truth. There's only one way to get your money back plus a gain in six month. Don't buy breeding stock at all, only buy young male hybrid goats that are just weaned. Young males are better for meat and they're also cheaper because breeders only want to keep the does. Also don't spend 20T on a house- it's too hard to earn back that much from goats. Buy roofing material from a junkshop, try to find second hand wood like from someone demolishing an old house. Goats aren't picky! Have your caretaker cut native bamboo for the walls and floor. All in all it should only cost a few thousand.
    All this depends on already having land with vegetation the goats can eat. Don't even think about buying or leasing land. Ideally you already have or know someone who has idle farmland. The good thing about goats is that they can eat plants growing on the side of mountains, on rocky unfertile land, in ravines, the side of road, etc. So you can get some use out of otherwise useless land.
    Finally, don't spend much money on feeds. Native hybrids can survive just fine on browse and grass as long as there is enough protein in the vegetation. They won't grow as fast as if you give them commercial feed every day, but who cares if you're not spending anything on upkeep. High breed and milk goats are a different story- they really require supplemental concentrate.
    After six months slaughter all your goats and sell the meat.
    That's how you raise goats as a small scale business. Cut out every single unnecessary expense and squeeze out a profit.
    you are indeed correct sir. goat meat/chevon is not really known as an everyday part of the meal for reasons only goat raisers knew of:

    1st, goat production takes a lot of time than most breeding animals and the weaning process of the young calves takes at least 6 -12 months for full maturity of weight.

    2nd, i have yet to know a breed of goat that produces an average of at least 3 youngs. most if not all only produce 1-2 with three as partly out of luck. come to think of it, if you have breeding does of 6 then one can expect 6-8 kids in one year without casualties.

    3rd, the most important of this all is market. one just can't fancy about this because the production is really slow. if you dig deep into selling chevon, the bucks tend to have 15 per cent more weight than the does, which is undeniably what the consumers would love to have but without the bucks, your breeding program will be hampered. the demand is not entirely huge like that of beef, chicken and pork so your price is a tad bit higher which results to low sales. the only time when goat meat is needed are on very few special occasions.

    on part of buying and leasing land, i bought mine because i love to live close to nature and contribute in my own ways of activism. im not into goat selling and it has been officially agreed upon bet my wife and i. hehe
    Last edited by brownie; 08-26-2014 at 06:00 PM.

  2. #1252
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    Maau buntag, naa koy kanding daghan, pro ka mama ni nya iya naning gipa buhi sa amoa, dagko ni na kanding, pero mix ni bisaya,beor ug anglo ingon tong mangaunay mga parente ky lami daw ang unod aning kandinga, pero akong asawa di ganahan ihawon kay maluoy ug mananap.maong me daghan2x nani, ako ni gi lain2x para di kaau mo daghan..manguta na ko unsa ka dak on ang dagko gyud na kanding? Naghuna2x mi na ibaligya namo ni tanan pero dili tagsa2x tanan gyud naa lang me ibilin,kaning tigulang na kaau ug kining isa na way itlog. Mga pet raman gud ni namo.

  3. #1253
    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    there's no other way but killing them and selling their meat at 4 months. goat raising has never been a viable business anywhere. raising them will take time mao na nga ang uban kay para personal conusmption and for supplementary reasons in dire times. in my case, i never sell any of my goats and sheep [newly added] because raising them is my hobby.

    sorry for being a discouragement to all but livestock raising will never be a good business kung ang ato huna2 ang profit or ang ROI ra coz the profit you can expect is too damn low.
    magdepende man cguro bro kung unsa nga livestock imo gi buhi...ako i'm into hog raising. kung ganahan kag dali ra mabaligya, manok 1 month lang mabaligya na. or paitlogan pwede pud,... what about balot - naay nadato sa balot lang suroy2

  4. #1254
    Quote Originally Posted by splinterz View Post
    magdepende man cguro bro kung unsa nga livestock imo gi buhi...ako i'm into hog raising. kung ganahan kag dali ra mabaligya, manok 1 month lang mabaligya na. or paitlogan pwede pud,... what about balot - naay nadato sa balot lang suroy2
    naa man pd koy mga manok bisaya bro, dali ra sanayon ang manok kontra sa kanding gawas ug naa na kay 100 ka kanding daan kana kwarta gyud na. pero ROI in 6 months, labo kaayo na specially sa kanding. ang balut nato dili man manok, sa bebe pd na in which dali gihapon sanayon as opposed to goats/ruminants and ang kanding di mangitlog. another factor kay ang presyo, mas barato ang ration sa manok ug baboy kontra sa kanding nga dili gyud na mo ubos ug 300 tungod kay walay production.

    naa lang pd koy additional input, you try visiting davao goat farm di ba, gagmay ra pd in a span of years nila nga pag raise sa goats. usa sa pinaka sikat diha ang supplier nila ug cheese and cream made out of goat milk ang malagos ug sagana. ang alaminos pd sa luzon, goat milk ang gi market nila dili goat meat although namaligya silag breeding stock pero pareha na ug motor ang presyo. kinadak-an nga goat farm sa malaysia, dairy gihapon. largest goat farm in UK ang st. helen's farm, dairy products pd gi market nila. sa ato pa, ma klaro gyud nato nga di ka apas ang production sa goat meat sa demand.
    Last edited by brownie; 08-27-2014 at 02:58 PM.

  5. #1255
    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    naa man pd koy mga manok bisaya bro, dali ra sanayon ang manok kontra sa kanding gawas ug naa na kay 100 ka kanding daan kana kwarta gyud na. pero ROI in 6 months, labo kaayo na specially sa kanding. ang balut nato dili man manok, sa bebe pd na in which dali gihapon sanayon as opposed to goats/ruminants and ang kanding di mangitlog. another factor kay ang presyo, mas barato ang ration sa manok ug baboy kontra sa kanding nga dili gyud na mo ubos ug 300 tungod kay walay production.

    naa lang pd koy additional input, you try visiting davao goat farm di ba, gagmay ra pd in a span of years nila nga pag raise sa goats. usa sa pinaka sikat diha ang supplier nila ug cheese and cream made out of goat milk ang malagos ug sagana. ang alaminos pd sa luzon, goat milk ang gi market nila dili goat meat although namaligya silag breeding stock pero pareha na ug motor ang presyo. kinadak-an nga goat farm sa malaysia, dairy gihapon. largest goat farm in UK ang st. helen's farm, dairy products pd gi market nila. sa ato pa, ma klaro gyud nato nga di ka apas ang production sa goat meat sa demand.
    wala man ko mag.ingon bro nga paitlogon nimo ang kanding ang ako lang kung mag.hisgot ka ug livestock nga dali ra ang ROI adto ka sa dali ra ang harvest. pero kung passion jud nimo nga ganahn ka mamohi ug kanding posible gihapon na nga mohatag ug dako nga income sa imoha, pero ug lingaw2 lang ang imoha posible gihapon nga modako gihapon na ang kita dili lang ka kabantay. tan.awa imong gi.pangsample nga mga goat farm diba successful kaayo sila. so depende rajud na sa imoha.

  6. #1256
    gabuhi pud ko kanding boss..mao nay pinakasayon buhion.pwede rana gamay na area depende sa number of heads..akoang suggestion kay kinahanglan gyud ka target market daan..kay talagsa ra kaayo ang gapalit ug meat..kung gamay pa imuhang kapital unaha gyud ilang pasilungan kung mag.ulan

  7. #1257
    Quote Originally Posted by splinterz View Post
    wala man ko mag.ingon bro nga paitlogon nimo ang kanding ang ako lang kung mag.hisgot ka ug livestock nga dali ra ang ROI adto ka sa dali ra ang harvest. pero kung passion jud nimo nga ganahn ka mamohi ug kanding posible gihapon na nga mohatag ug dako nga income sa imoha, pero ug lingaw2 lang ang imoha posible gihapon nga modako gihapon na ang kita dili lang ka kabantay. tan.awa imong gi.pangsample nga mga goat farm diba successful kaayo sila. so depende rajud na sa imoha.
    haha di kay naka hisgot man gd kung maka ROI ba dayun in 6 months. mao ra na. wa pd koy plano inegosyo nako ni kay hobby ni nako unya puhon ako ra ni buhi-an sila labaw na ang mga tigulang na kay di nako ka afford ug at least 50 hecs ngari sa cebu

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    up for today, go goat farmers..............

  9. #1259
    Kinsa naa baligya kanding dha nga etuy south nga banda sa cebu ako location. ako kuha sa inyu farm. try ko buhi daw ani b.

  10. #1260
    With a few months starting raising goats, reading inputs and a little accounting, I therefore conclude Goat Raising is hardly a business. Here's my math:

    How much does an F1 goat sell? Lets say 3T.(which is realistic)
    3T is not clean, it has been raised at least 6 months from birth.
    So there are expenses on food, pellets, housing, deworming.
    Let's say, a monthly expense of 500. (which is also realistic)
    500X6months=3,000. It cancels out. You really are not earning.
    Last edited by cirext; 09-12-2014 at 03:53 PM.

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