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  1. #1201

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    wala ko nghilabot...pahimangno lng
    gikan lang sad ani nga verse Colossians 2:1-5

    asa man ang walay biblical basis diha?..dili man gyud unta ko ganahan makig debate ug parehas ra sad nako nga Kristiano..pero cge..sakay na lang ko
    Tan awa ba gud ang thread kung kinsay nag una una ug debate nato. I will not stop proclaiming here the truth of the word of God.

  2. #1202
    Originally Posted by noy

    na unsa naman ni oi! ? !
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    asta ako bai noy nag libog hehehe
    Maglibog jud ka specially if you dont understand what the bible actually mean to say and if you think you know what the bible is trying to say when you dont.

  3. #1203
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    OT naka slabs. Wala pa ta naghisgot ug wether your faith is genuine or not.

    We are still talking wether faith is the only way or not unto salvation. We are not yet talking what kind of faith.

    Becuase the topic is "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?"

    Pero tubagun na lang sad taka. Imo question is "unsaon nimo pag pakita sa imong pag tuo kungwala nimo buhata?" Kinahanglan jud mubuhat because works is the expression of your faith. Faith can be shown by works according to James 2. The kind of faith you have is determined by your works. But we are not talking here yet what kind of faith you have. So let us continue with our topic.
    dili man tingale to OT..ikaw ra bitaw nag sulti nga ako e explain

    Oh..gikan ra na nimo ha...kinahanglan gyud ug buhat dili kay faith lang

  4. #1204
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Does that say that you have to believe with works to be save? Ningun ba diha? Because as I understand, you are misusing that verse. Infact you cannot even explain that verse.
    ako ra gipakita nimo nga kinahanglan gyud ipakita ang imong pagtoo pina-agi sa mga buhat

    e explain daw.

  5. #1205
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Tan awa ba gud ang thread kung kinsay nag una una ug debate nato. I will not stop proclaiming here the truth of the word of God.
    ako ra gi share nga di ta kinahanglan mag lalis anang mga pagtoo parehas ra ta

  6. #1206
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Maglibog jud ka specially if you dont understand what the bible actually mean to say and if you think you know what the bible is trying to say when you dont.
    question here is, are YOU really understand the bible also?

    in fact diri ta nag sugod diba?

    John 14:12

    Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-01-2013 at 06:38 PM.

  7. #1207
    hahaiz...you guys just simply misunderstood each other...
    Slabs was trying to explain that Faith and action for salvation 'casue if one has the faith therefore naa jud nay action...
    which is sakto pud...

    kang 75%Life pud, Faith ra jud. but not literally nga faith lang nya humana
    kay if one has the faith, then it should be seen through that person's actions...
    so technically speaking, FAITH ra jud ang kinahanglan...sakto pud..

    but in order for us to know if that Faith is genuine, we need to check our actions...mao pud di pasabut ni slabs sa faith and action...

    therefore PAREHA ra mo ug punto...so no need tawn mag lalis...di malipay ang Ginoo aniatong kalaki...

    sola fide is both literally and not literally...

    Literally: cause though it is the actions that determines our faith, it is still the Faith that counts..otherwise if the faith is dead, there will be no actions..

    not literally:'cause we all know that with a living Faith, we can't help but to burst with good works..
    Last edited by noy; 02-01-2013 at 07:06 PM.

  8. #1208
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    dili man tingale to OT..ikaw ra bitaw nag sulti nga ako e explain

    Oh..gikan ra na nimo ha...kinahanglan gyud ug buhat dili kay faith lang
    It is not yet a question of wether faith is genuine or not. But is faith is the only way or not for salvation

    Note:
    quote; "kinahanglan gyud ug buhat dili kay faith lang"....for salvation? are we still talking about salvation here?

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    kumbate.. wa naman gud si boss jovi.. mao ni resulta..hehehe

  10. #1210
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    ako ra gipakita nimo nga kinahanglan gyud ipakita ang imong pagtoo pina-agi sa mga buhat

    e explain daw.
    Sakto jud kinahanglan jud tang mubuhat pero dili para maluwas kung dili tungod kay luwas na. I hope gisabot ni nimo.

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