All About Trillianes~ He will be convicted.

[BaDBoY]

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diha lang una siya gud aron naay sample sa mga sundalo nga gusto ug adventure nga supak sa balaud...

[tulisan666]

sample!?

si honasan diay...pila na ka failed attempts sa coup iyang na buhat...apilon tong sa kang cory(siya man gihapon to)

i'm beginning to feel not so proud of the PMA...simpleng coup di pa ma gawa.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Like there is really a simple coup . There is non , a non bloody coup yes but still a very complicated and needs a keen planning of strategy and options which they dont have .

Who knows TRILLIANES is really competent as a senator but for the moment ... wether he was elected or lost the election , he needs to serve his prison time for the crimes he commited .

[Godfather]

@ Godfather from your last post:

OT ni but anyway gusto lng ko mo comment:

SALA na nah sa mga ni botar nila bro, two years from now mahuman na ilang term. let's see kng modagan lang gihapon ni cla nya makadaug. pasabot ani nga wla gihapon cla (voters) maka-amgo.

Thank you for your comments.

Tinood ning imong sulti, bro. It is unfortunate nga daghang voters are either ignorant or simply dili makamao mopili ug maayong lider mao nga ang atong nasud third world lang gihapon. I'm sure most, if not all of us here, dream of a country that could equal or better Hong Kong or Singapore. Pero, unless we start looking at the worth of a person as a leader, our next generation might still be like ours now.

pero bro, ang dakong LALIS ANI. ang iyang PAGLAPAS SA BALAUD...
MUTINY IS DEFINITELY A CRIME sa ako nang gika-ingun from my previous post.

In most cases, bro, what you said is true. Pero that kind of a crime cannot be always absolute, depende sa sitwasyon. To quote the US founding fathers: "That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

HE MUST ANSWER WHAT HE DID IN ACCORDANCE TO OUR EXISTING LAW. HE COMMITED A CRIME THEREFORE HE MUST BE PUNISH.

Under perfect circumstances, I would agree with you. The problem is our society do not have a fair justice system. Ang mga dato ug powerful, do not get the same treatment as Trillanes or any other ordinary person. They don't get prosecuted for crimes against society. Tanawa lang si Enrile nga despite the logging ban, nakakuha lang gihapon ug permit to log. Tungod kay naa sila sa gahom, they can make an illegal act lawful. Si GMA mismo, nahimong walay sala sa panikas kay gigamit iyang gahum para dili matuis ang iyang gihimo. Moingon ka nga wa na sila makiha mao nga lahi ilang sitwasyon. Dili ba hypocritical nga we demand punishment from a weaker person but allow the strong to spit on us?

kng iya gyung gusto usbon ang SAYOP NGA SYSTEMA SA AFP wla na unta cya maghimog SALAUD pinaagi sa pagmutiny. kai sa iyang gibuhat wlai kalahi-an iyang sayop sa sayop nga binuhatan sa uban.
you cannot justify the truth by making a crime; crime does not pay right?

Pila na man katuig ang military ingon ani ka rotten? How many tried to effect a change but failed or were killed because the power of the generals is beyond their reach? Labi na ining sitwasyon karon where GMA is forced to grant anything to the generals para lang supportahan gihapon siya. Unsa ma'y chance for Trillanes to get his fought for reforms? Nada! Kutob kanus-a iyang huwat? Tingali for him, the time to abolish an unresponsive government has come. Unless we walk in his shoes, it'd be difficult for us to find out.

My point in arguing for Trillanes to be able to represent us in the senate is to give our country a chance to have a principled leader. Para nako, it has become a choice between TRAPO and prinsipyo, between a chance to dig out of this quagmire and another generation of the same type of governance.

[tackielarla]

the irony is... why put him there on the first place if he cannot serve his functions.

also, why run when you are in prison?

[baron]

^^ IMHO, if he has principles, in the truest sense if the wird, he hsould have just run independetly. That would really mean standing for his principles of fighting corruption. Siding with the Erap camp simply shows that he is not principled enough, as you would like to put it.

also, why run when you are in prison?

It seems it's the new way of circumventing the law. At least, the court decided that it hsould not be the easy scape goat of our would- be leaders. Otherwise, we might see a lot of of them in the senate soon.

[kamikaze426]

^^ IMHO, if he has principles, in the truest sense if the wird, he hsould have just run independetly. That would really mean standing for his principles of fighting corruption. Siding with the Erap camp simply shows that he is not principled enough, as you would like to put it.

It seems it's the new way of circumventing the law. At least, the court decided that it hsould not be the easy scape goat of our would- be leaders. Otherwise, we might see a lot of of them in the senate soon.

ka kuyaw aning scenarioha sa, mga pinireso nga senado of the philippines

[rudjard]

@ Godfather

salamat sa imong tataw nga mga opinion ug mga tubag sa topic nto dri. i will jst pick up some of ur answers and give my own views.

the court has decided about this matter, though he could still appeal to SC.


back to the topic: as what u said

Under perfect circumstances, I would agree with you. The problem is our society do not have a fair justice system. Ang mga dato ug powerful, do not get the same treatment as Trillanes or any other ordinary person. They don't get prosecuted for crimes against society. Tanawa lang si Enrile nga despite the logging ban, nakakuha lang gihapon ug permit to log. Tungod kay naa sila sa gahom, they can make an illegal act lawful. Si GMA mismo, nahimong walay sala sa panikas kay gigamit iyang gahum para dili matuis ang iyang gihimo. Moingon ka nga wa na sila makiha mao nga lahi ilang sitwasyon. Dili ba hypocritical nga we demand punishment from a weaker person but allow the strong to spit on us?

^^^bro from my higlight, how sure are we that he will not do the same act jst like what u said sa present admin like, Enrile or GMA? thinking of his present situation nga naa nsad cyay gahum will he still make a choice to prove the truth without bending/breaking the law again? or much worse, when he will be consumed by his own greed for power and forget now his principles, it's just a matter of time. either ana nga mahitabo kuyaw gihapon cya knowing he can use his postion in the government. isn't it? he will still be like Enrile or as what u said GMA. i don't consider him as weak, for what he did, he has the nerve to despise his superiors kuwang pa lang (kai it wasn't good enough to bring someone down) but when the right time comes he will be that same person who will spit on us....

To quote the US founding fathers: "That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

^^^ true! but in a democratic way not under coup or mutiny but in an honest and clean election/plebiscite... peru lisud nman kau ni tuhu-an ron right? yet kng kinahanglan gyd then let the people decide it...."political agenda nsad" other people would say....

para nko, maau gyd unta kng wla nalng gyd cya magmutiny. this has only stained his credibility to lead a good example. tan.awa si gringgo, he was once like this before first dagan nya sa senator people believe in him because of this strong principle to change what he believe is wrong now years had passed i dnt thnk he still got what he was fighting for...

salamat

[omad]

the irony is... why put him there on the first place if he cannot serve his functions. ...a very simple question that needs 11 MILLION answers....

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT : Naa iSTORYANS na ni vote ni TRILLIANES ??