Bohol mayor gipalayas ang Red Cross nga nagdala relief goods

[psyche54]

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ddto mi with my private Non government organization sa Tubigon. we distributed some goods and RTW's, medical asssistance and free meals. while at it, we saw kung unsa ka importante and makig coordinate sa LGU. Bisan kinsa nga tawo, pwede mo linya, bata, batan-on, tigulang, pobre, arang2 ug apil ang mga may kaya. dili nimo mo identify kinsa jud ang nanginahanglan ug tabang kay tanan tawo nanglinya and to be fair, all you can do is place some "mark" kung kinsa tong humana. naay mga naglinya nga de alahas pa, mga dato ug itsura though naa say naglinya nga luoy jud kaayo ug itsura. when we went around to see the affected houses, gamay ra ang affected, though naa puy uban nga lusno jud ilang balay, meaning, daghan pud ngadto ang wala naapektahan. dali ra kaayo nahurot ang among tabang and somehow, I felt not very fulfilled knowing that dili tanan nga among natagaan naapektahan.

taud taud, daghan na puy nangabot nga nang distribute ug mga habol, banig, unlan ug uban pa. the same people ang nanglinya. naay uban nga gadala pa ug service, ddto nila etapok ilang mga nakuha sa mga nanghatag ug tabang. naay uban nga dghn ang miyembro sa ilang pamilya, daghan pud kaayo ilang natigom kay isa isa man nanglinya kada miyembro and a lot dont look like they were affected, theres really no way for anyone to find out kung kinsa jud ang dapat tabangan kung modrecho lang ug pang distribute sa ilang tabang...and that is a little frustrating considering the ultimate goal of any organization.

when we also walked around and interviewed some of the people whose houses were torn down, we asked them if they are always aware nga naay tabang nga naga abot didto sa area diin tanan tabang didto ipang distribute, ilang tubag kay luoy...they are not aware all the time nga naa diay niabot nga tabang and they felt sorry and we felt sorry too because we could have done it better if we only realized the need to coordinate with the LGU. everyone in the organization realized this need and will definitely do this NEXT TIME kung naa pa.

kana na lay basihi sa inyong mga opinions Istoryans. I dont think nga ang Red Cross naa silay gibuhat nga sistema to know kung kinsa jud ang ilang tagaan cz it was coincidence that there were 2 trucks from Red cross that also distributed help when we were there ug they basically did the same as we did. pag abot nila ngadto, drecho ra dayon silag distribute sa tanang tawo nga nanglinya regardless if theyre affected or not.

with rough estimate, basing on my own assesment and counting, around 20% lang sa houses nag among naagian ug nakit an ang naapektahan and most of these houses are well-off (concrete). I feel that kung mo coordinate lang jud unta ang Red Cross sa LGU, ma maximize jud seguro unta ang potential sa tabang kay kahibaw jud tingay ang LGU kung asa jud dapita ug kinsa jud ang nanginahanglan ug tabang.

Boss, maayo man unta na nga tumong kon dili sagulan ug pamulitika... But in the case of Maribojoc, nga verified jud by local constituents, if pildi sa si mayor adto nga brgy., or known political opposition ka. Di ka tagaan ug dakong pagtakad.

And just this morning, akong gisultian akong kauban diri sa trabaho sa gisay-say sa akong suod nga higala boss nga taga AMRO, nakaingon jud siya boss nga "Bantug ra jud nga labay-labayan lang mi sa hinabang..."

That goes to show boss nga adunay problema ang pamalakad sa LGU didto boss...

[R_sQuArEd]

ddto mi with my private Non government organization sa Tubigon. we distributed some goods and RTW's, medical asssistance and free meals. while at it, we saw kung unsa ka importante and makig coordinate sa LGU. Bisan kinsa nga tawo, pwede mo linya, bata, batan-on, tigulang, pobre, arang2 ug apil ang mga may kaya. dili nimo mo identify kinsa jud ang nanginahanglan ug tabang kay tanan tawo nanglinya and to be fair, all you can do is place some "mark" kung kinsa tong humana. naay mga naglinya nga de alahas pa, mga dato ug itsura though naa say naglinya nga luoy jud kaayo ug itsura. when we went around to see the affected houses, gamay ra ang affected, though naa puy uban nga lusno jud ilang balay, meaning, daghan pud ngadto ang wala naapektahan. dali ra kaayo nahurot ang among tabang and somehow, I felt not very fulfilled knowing that dili tanan nga among natagaan naapektahan.

taud taud, daghan na puy nangabot nga nang distribute ug mga habol, banig, unlan ug uban pa. the same people ang nanglinya. naay uban nga gadala pa ug service, ddto nila etapok ilang mga nakuha sa mga nanghatag ug tabang. naay uban nga dghn ang miyembro sa ilang pamilya, daghan pud kaayo ilang natigom kay isa isa man nanglinya kada miyembro and a lot dont look like they were affected, theres really no way for anyone to find out kung kinsa jud ang dapat tabangan kung modrecho lang ug pang distribute sa ilang tabang...and that is a little frustrating considering the ultimate goal of any organization.

when we also walked around and interviewed some of the people whose houses were torn down, we asked them if they are always aware nga naay tabang nga naga abot didto sa area diin tanan tabang didto ipang distribute, ilang tubag kay luoy...they are not aware all the time nga naa diay niabot nga tabang and they felt sorry and we felt sorry too because we could have done it better if we only realized the need to coordinate with the LGU. everyone in the organization realized this need and will definitely do this NEXT TIME kung naa pa.

kana na lay basihi sa inyong mga opinions Istoryans. I dont think nga ang Red Cross naa silay gibuhat nga sistema to know kung kinsa jud ang ilang tagaan cz it was coincidence that there were 2 trucks from Red cross that also distributed help when we were there ug they basically did the same as we did. pag abot nila ngadto, drecho ra dayon silag distribute sa tanang tawo nga nanglinya regardless if theyre affected or not.

with rough estimate, basing on my own assesment and counting, around 20% lang sa houses nag among naagian ug nakit an ang naapektahan and most of these houses are well-off (concrete). I feel that kung mo coordinate lang jud unta ang Red Cross sa LGU, ma maximize jud seguro unta ang potential sa tabang kay kahibaw jud tingay ang LGU kung asa jud dapita ug kinsa jud ang nanginahanglan ug tabang.

as per Gordon...PNRC is an international organization that has been around for more than a hundred years helping people in differents kinds of calamities...siguro kana pa lang nga statement kibaw nana sila mu-organize ug relief operations compared to LGUs...i think they won't have an SOP nga dili nila turn over to LGUs ilang relief goods for no reason...

and about giving reliefs...bisan diri gani sa cebu ang mga ni-avail ug mga calamity loan dili man gani ta makaingon nga naapektohan jud...

[Butchokoy]

Boss, maayo man unta na nga tumong kon dili sagulan ug pamulitika... But in the case of Maribojoc, nga verified jud by local constituents, if pildi sa si mayor adto nga brgy., or known political opposition ka. Di ka tagaan ug dakong pagtakad.

And just this morning, akong gisultian akong kauban diri sa trabaho sa gisay-say sa akong suod nga higala boss nga taga AMRO, nakaingon jud siya boss nga "Bantug ra jud nga labay-labayan lang mi sa hinabang..."

That goes to show boss nga adunay problema ang pamalakad sa LGU didto boss...

our plan is only to coordinate if naa ba silay list of families nga dapat e prioritize, not really to turn over our goods to them and have them facilitate the distribution kay murag posible pud kaayo nga sagolan ug politika. sa akong nahibaw an, naa na say mga NGOs nga ni coordinate jud with the LGU and sought assistance in identifying asa dapat e concentrate ang tabang ug kung naay lista sa area kung kinsa nga mga pamilya ang affected.

I think kinahanglan jud siya buhaton basi sa akong nakit an ngadto, wa juy ayo kung mo hamag lang didto ug pang distribute. I saw what Red Cross did, drecho ra silag distribute, so tanang tawo nanagan padung sa ilang truck, ang uban ga motor, ang uban gadala ug pick up, ang uban usa ka pamilyahan nanglinya doble doble ang hinabang ilang nakuha. ang uban gani mamili na ug hinabang, molinya lang kung tan aw nila nindot ilang makuha.

I dont find the scene productive. Its not serving its purpose.

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as per Gordon...PNRC is an international organization that has been around for more than a hundred years helping people in differents kinds of calamities...siguro kana pa lang nga statement kibaw nana sila mu-organize ug relief operations compared to LGUs...i think they won't have an SOP nga dili nila turn over to LGUs ilang relief goods for no reason...

and about giving reliefs...bisan diri gani sa cebu ang mga ni-avail ug mga calamity loan dili man gani ta makaingon nga naapektohan jud...

I saw what I saw, dako kaayong banner sa Red Cross atong mga trucks. ang gipang distributan nila way pili. gihimo na nuog negosyo sa uban kay gipangkarga pa ug pick up sa layo naka park. ang uban ga motor, dagko kaayog katawa kay ga kinagang sa ilang karga. katong mga tawhana, wa gani to nanglinya sa amoang gipanghatag kay tan aw tingay nila ginagmay ra. I observed this firsthand. now up to you to imagine and rationalize kung unsa gyuy maayong buhaton.

[R_sQuArEd]

I saw what I saw, dako kaayong banner sa Red Cross atong mga trucks. ang gipang distributan nila way pili. gihimo na nuog negosyo sa uban kay gipangkarga pa ug pick up sa layo naka park. ang uban ga motor, dagko kaayog katawa kay ga kinagang sa ilang karga. katong mga tawhana, wa gani to nanglinya sa amoang gipanghatag kay tan aw tingay nila ginagmay ra. I observed this firsthand. now up to you to imagine and rationalize kung unsa gyuy maayong buhaton.

i've been joining relief operations since the St. Bernard Landslide in Leyte way back 2006...you don't expect a place under state of calamity to be in order...it will always be a melee when people from other places give relief goods and the help given is not always enough...when you help people in this kind of situation, choosing whom to give help is never an option...

[Butchokoy]

i've been joining relief operations since the St. Bernard Landslide in Leyte way back 2006...you don't expect a place under state of calamity to be in order...it will always be a melee when people from other places give relief goods and the help given is not always enough...when you help people in this kind of situation, choosing whom to give help is never an option...

okay. not arguing. you do what you think is right for the situation. In the end, make assesments if what you do will really serve its ultimate purpose - Ang pagtabang sa mga naapektohan. if there is an opportunity to improve your system, do it. if not, you can stick to your principle and what you think is generally right...its yours...basta ako, as one of the leaders of my organization, I see the opportunity to improve and really provide help to where and whom its due. ako sad na. usa ra akong tumong, MAKATABANG SA TINUOD NGA NANGINAHANGLAN.

[kit_cebu]

so, Red Cross has been existing for more than a hundred years operated WITHOUT coordination? or wala sila'y sistema?
kay murag i seriously doubt that...

[shebacs]

@Butchokoy; where you present personally when the PNRC was doing their relief operations? It seems you know how they operate. Or were you a PNRC member before to know how they operate?

Also what about the AMRO people? Do you think those professionals (doctors and medical practitioners) don't a system or operation in regards to relief goods and services distribution? Why were they also 'driven' out by Mr. Evasco and company?

I know you mean well, but let's not take away the rights of private organizations/non-NGOs to use their system and uphold their rules. Besides you can always get information on the brgy/barrio people through other means than going through LGUs or Mr. Mayor.

[popeegabz]

Hala ang redcross pa jud na international org mn unta na. Paets

[psyche54]

@Butchokoy; where you present personally when the PNRC was doing their relief operations? It seems you know how they operate. Or were you a PNRC member before to know how they operate?

Also what about the AMRO people? Do you think those professionals (doctors and medical practitioners) don't a system or operation in regards to relief goods and services distribution? Why were they also 'driven' out by Mr. Evasco and company?

I know you mean well, but let's not take away the rights of private organizations/non-NGOs to use their system and uphold their rules. Besides you can always get information on the brgy/barrio people through other means than going through LGUs or Mr. Mayor.

Hehehehehe, when I talked to my friend and his dad who happened to be a member of AMRO, the organization having 1 off-road ambulance, and almost a dozen off-road vehicles nga gidala sa calamity site, they were really surprised on how the mayor acted. The mayor together with his 3 policemen confronted them, and wishes that the load of aids (tambal, gabas, lansang, martilyo, tubig), be turned over to them.

And they asserted their calling by giving directly to the victims, instead of lining up to Barangay Halls/Municipal Hall to pickup some goods. Ug ingon pa sa ako amigo as I lead him to this thread, those who insisted that the mayor is doing right has never been into serious calamity situation. Ug ingon pa niya, "you do not have the luxury to secure for a master list and let people lined up when distributing aids" when people you see in the streets, plazas, gymnasium is starving, dying, ill..." You do what you have to do until the next wave of aid comes along. Because no matter what, during the first few days of the calamity, ang aid nga mangabot would either be Sobra or Kulang, until the damaged to the area is comprehensively assessed.

[dexlimp]

d mn daw tinuod na wala nkig coordinate ang PNRC sa mayor sa maibujoc, ang mayor pa mn gani daw nihatag sa PNRC ug mga vans na masakyan nla pati sa ilang mga relief goods..